Lara Logan Hospitalized After Assault and Rape in Cairo, Egypt

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Yeah but the story feels one sided. I'm sure she was saved by other Egyptians. They are not animals as the story tries to make it out as.
 
Good christ what are you guys talking about? One sided? Painting ALL Egyptians evil?

Get your heads out of your asses. It appears you are the ones who conjur up these false ideas about the story. Nowhere in the story does it broadly paint all Egyptians one way or another, but you guys have it in your minds somehow that it does.
 
No no no, we have it all wrong. She lured the poor guys into this and she must be honor killed now for sleeping with a married man (surely one of her attackers has a wife)


Seriously though, doubt it if anyone is even caught on this. Poor woman.
 

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I POSTED WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED: IT'S BEEN REPORTED THAT SHE WAS BRUTALLY ASSAULTED AND RAPED.

"The statement goes on to say Logan suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating"

Rape isn't mentioned in what you posted. Usually these incidents in Egypt involve aggressive groping and such—I don't know what actually happened in this case.

In Shot's defense, there are many headline that are calling it rape, but none I could find from reliable journalistic sources, which are all calling it "sexual assault."

Shot, you're always posting these liberal-baiting stories and you know it. You're sort of the boards Glen Beck.


Good christ what are you guys talking about? One sided? Painting ALL Egyptians evil?

Shot never said this as far as I can see, but clearly the inflammatory headline of this thread was fuel for a lot of idiots to make some pretty damn bigoted posts.
 


"The statement goes on to say Logan suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating"

Rape isn't mentioned in what you posted. Usually these incidents in Egypt involve aggressive groping and such—I don't know what actually happened in this case.

In Shot's defense, there are many headline that are calling it rape, but none I could find from reliable journalistic sources, which are all calling it "sexual assault."

Shot, you're always posting these liberal-baiting stories and you know it. You're sort of the boards Glen Beck.




Shot never said this as far as I can see, but clearly the inflammatory headline of this thread was fuel for a lot of idiots to make some pretty damn bigoted posts.


Why does it bait liberals?
 
The title of this thread is very misleading as we don't if she was raped or not, if she had been I'm pretty sure we would have heard about it by now. Not to trivialise any sort of sexual assault but rape a very serious and disgusting crime and the term should not be used sparingly. Not to condone the actions of the mob but it is never a clever idea to send an attractive female dressed in western clothing with her head uncovered into a turbulent situation in an arab country, this may not seem much to us in the west but it's the equivalent of having a woman walk around topless here, she is also pictured in the article below with her hair out amongst Afghani soldiers in Afghanistan, again that is inviting trouble and could be seen as a sign of disrespect in that country. Again I stress I'm not condoning the mobs behaviour and they deserve to be punished for what they did but when you travel to a foreign country, especially ones that are arab and muslim you need to be aware of the cultural implications of how you dress and behave. I wish her a speedy recovery and not let this affect her future work. :2 cents:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ffers-sex-attack-covering-Egypt-uprising.html


A lot of the women were in Western style clothing and not all of them had their head covered. They were calling her and her crew Jews before hand (it's reported that way but we all know about these early reports) so she was definitely targeted for being a Westerner.


I would say that many Muslims should then understand when they violate the cultural norms of Western countries and want their women to walk around with their face covered up while they ogle Western girls.


Theirs a huge hypocrisy in Islam where non-Muslim women are looked at as little more than sex slaves for Muslim men while at the same time, they prohibit marriage between non-Muslim men and Muslim women.

It's a practice that started with their prophet and continues to this day.
 
im telling you..... all they did was grab her tits and she freaked out, jesus people.

Still a sexual assault no? I mean, would you be as aloof if it was a member of your family? You seem to be trivialising this a bit. Even if they just yelled "you mean mean woman" and pinch her nipples twice it aint right dude :facepalm:
 
Still a sexual assault no? I mean, would you be as aloof if it was a member of your family? You seem to be trivialising this a bit. Even if they just yelled "you mean mean woman" and pinch her nipples twice it aint right dude :facepalm:

i really dont give a shit what you think.... i mean jesus christ.... they copped a fucking feel

:facepalm:
 

The ignorance in these post is astonishing.

First off—what the fuck does China care? That country has no problem dealing with the worst counties in the world—human rights are not a big priority for them.

Second—Egypt is not Afghanistan. Suggesting that one needs an AK to walk around the street of Cairo is ridiculous.

My guess would be that assault against her reflected anger at the West (U.S. primarily,) for our unwavering support of Mubarak for so many years, despite the suffering of the common people of Egypt.

That's no justification, but this post is just straight up bigoted.

Should we ban the New Testament because there were over 250,000 rapes in the U.S.A. in 2009?

You're ridiculous, you get into the point of blaming the U.S. or the West and then try to cover yourself with a caveat or two.

At the same time, you make excuses for Islam.


THEN you try to say burn the NEW Testament. Way to stay on the safe side sparky. Why not the Bible?


Oh and if you want to talk about the Granddaddy of sexual slavery and slaughter among Abrahamic religions.

You go right to the Tanakh and the Old Testament.


It's interesting how it's okay to criticize Islam on the right and Christianity on the left, but not Judaism.


The reason why Islam in particular gets targeted is because this phenomenon of gangrape or sexual assault of non-Muslim or non-practicing Muslims is actually well documented in today's Europe, Middle east and South Asia. We're not talking about stuff that happened hundreds of years ago, it's a widespread problem that continues to this day.

What sets this apart from the 290,000 you pathetically try to equivacate with is that it was done in PUBLIC and that hundreds of men saw it but did nothing. Now how does this differentiate between let's say the Puerto Rican day attacks in NYC?

It was done to a reporter who just minutes prior was with her crew filming, these men had to know about it. The Puerto Rican day attacks were done to private, anonymous women at a party.

Lastly she was also a foreigner and it's reported that she was detained previously and accused of being Jewish and questioned about being an Israeli agent. The crowd also reportedly called them Jews when she was assaulted.

It took a bunch of women and then soldiers to stop it while men stood around and watched. So if these women were able to get to her, how come none of the men could??


Sexual assaults and kidnappings or forced conversions are also documented in Egypt against the Coptic minority. So no, Egypt is not Afghanistan, it's Egypt and has it's own brand of rape and oppression of non-Muslims.



Ike Stain you're just a coward. Move along.
 
im telling you..... all they did was grab her tits and she freaked out, jesus people.

I can't tell whether your being sarcastic to try and make some sort of point or are being serious, but the fact they took her to the hospital would seem to indicate it wasn't just a little groping.
 
We should also ban Catholicism because of all the child abuse :dunno:

Actually Catholics are leaving Catholicism in droves because of the abuse, so it's being self selected out. If it weren't for the birthrate in non-Western catholic countries, it would already be stagnating and that's with all the immigration.


Why aren't more Muslims leaving Islam?
 
i really dont give a shit what you think.... i mean jesus christ.... they copped a fucking feel

:facepalm:

didn't expect you to :dunno:

I do agree with it being a poor decision to even have a person in that place at that time. Whether it be male or female. I think sometimes the media doesn't realize that they are not invincible
 
im telling you..... all they did was grab her tits and she freaked out, jesus people.

I heard they were shouting 'jew, jew' at her and suspected her of being an Israeli spy, it's unlikely 200 men would try to gang rape a journalist live on tv in front of the army in the middle of an anti-govt demonstration, maybe they ripped her clothes off looking for recording devices etc and it was noted as a sexual assault which by definition it probably was. I noticed some of the online articles that used 'rape' in the headline quickly altered them and Logan herself has already said she wants to return to Egypt, not exactly the first thoughts of a rape victim. There's more to this 'incident' that meets the eye, or maybe less :dunno:


Actually Catholics are leaving Catholicism in droves because of the abuse, so it's being self selected out. If it weren't for the birthrate in non-Western catholic countries, it would already be stagnating and that's with all the immigration.


Why aren't more Muslims leaving Islam?

Simply because Islam like Judaism is a very difficult religion to leave where the followers believe they will be punished in hell if they don't lead a religious life and worship god. Most westerners who call themselves Christians yet don't follow any of the 'rules' probably deep down don't believe they will be sent to a hell for their sins, in fact they probably don't believe in hell full stop. The fear factor in Islam is strong and if you were strong enough to leave you'd be disowned by friends and family, you couldn't say the same of most Christians.
 
I heard they were shouting 'jew, jew' at her and suspected her of being an Israeli spy, it's unlikely 200 men would try to gang rape a journalist live on tv in front of the army in the middle of an anti-govt demonstration, maybe they ripped her clothes off looking for recording devices etc and it was noted as a sexual assault which by definition it probably was. I noticed some of the online articles that used 'rape' in the headline quickly altered them and Logan herself has already said she wants to return to Egypt, not exactly the first thoughts of a rape victim. There's more to this 'incident' that meets the eye, or maybe less :dunno:




Simply because Islam like Judaism is a very difficult religion to leave where the followers believe they will be punished in hell if they don't lead a religious life and worship god. Most westerners who call themselves Christians yet don't follow any of the 'rules' probably deep down don't believe they will be sent to a hell for their sins, in fact they probably don't believe in hell full stop. The fear factor in Islam is strong and if you were strong enough to leave you'd be disowned by friends and family, you couldn't say the same of most Christians.

Or it could be that prohibition against leaving Islam that carries a death sentence. I doubt those folks are worried about a fictitious hell, especially in a religion they don't believe in.

They do worry about their Dad running them over with a car or their cousin stabbing them to death.


But the reality of it is that many don't leave Islam because they aren't ashamed of what Muslims do in the name of Islam, as long as it's done to Infidels and apostates. Which polls show, many Egyptians (yes even those who want Democracy) want death for those who leave Islam.


A master-slave dynamic is built into Islam. With young Muslim males as the top master followed by married Muslim females. Unmarried Muslim girls and Muslim males without connections follow.

Non-Muslims males and females are the slave.
 
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