Just in time for the election.. get the colored folk all riled up...

Well, then I want Reparations from the Roman and Greeks who threw my relatives to the lions back during those bleak days of coliseum amusement. :)

*By the way. The Africans were sold to the Portuguese and English by there very own people.
Nobody said anything about reparations. If romans or greeks in your neighborhood were calling you some derogatory slang for whatever race you are then You Might have half an argument. I'm willing to bet that Julius down the street doesn't call you a cracker every time you walk your dog though.
 
Well, then I want Reparations from the Roman and Greeks who threw my relatives to the lions back during those bleak days of coliseum amusement. :)

*By the way. The Africans were sold to the Portuguese and English by there very own people.
You'll find that the Romans and Greeks treated blacks far better than the treatment they got in the US, they showed little prejuduce based on colour, also can you really compare two episodes 2000 years apart! How the blacks treated one another 200-300 years ago is irrelevant, blacks were still being abused and segregated in America less than 50 years ago after living in the US for over a century so you can't blame the African leaders who sold them off for that.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
If you're wondering why Sam Fisher is calling black people "colored," you should take a look at his thread titled "Ya gotta remember..."

It makes perfect sense.

Wrong, young man. Totally wrong.

The two threads have nothing to do with each other and I am a living testament as to why. Sam and I both grew up in the same era and in the same part of the country (evidently)....and yet we both developed totally opposite social and political attitudes. How did that happen? Well, for the same reasons that people in today's world share divergent views....socio-economic and educational reasons being the primary drivers.....just like 2012, OK? Sam wants to continue to call blacks (that's really the best moniker to give them from my perspective....it's what they are just as much as I am "white"....no?) "colored folk". Don't you dare blame it on the fact that he's "an old man"....so am I, sonny, and I have about as much in common with Sam from a social and political perspective as I do with a grapefruit.

Back in the 60s, people were as politically diverse as they are today....it's just that we didn't have 24-hour information streams to remind us of it. Things were slower and simpler then, but certainly not less contentious.

Now...as far as this thread is concerned....well, it's just more narrow-minded dogmatism being spewed forth from a guy who looks around him, sees change he doesn't like and that, in fact, scares the shit out of him....and so he reacts the only way he knows how. Give him some slack. He can't help it.
 

StanScratch

My Penis Is Dancing!
Wrong, young man. Totally wrong.

The two threads have nothing to do with each other and I am a living testament as to why. Sam and I both grew up in the same era and in the same part of the country (evidently)....and yet we both developed totally opposite social and political attitudes. How did that happen? Well, for the same reasons that people in today's world share divergent views....socio-economic and educational reasons being the primary drivers.....just like 2012, OK? Sam wants to continue to call blacks (that's really the best moniker to give them from my perspective....it's what they are just as much as I am "white"....no?) "colored folk". Don't you dare blame it on the fact that he's "an old man"....so am I, sonny, and I have about as much in common with Sam from a social and political perspective as I do with a grapefruit.

Back in the 60s, people were as politically diverse as they are today....it's just that we didn't have 24-hour information streams to remind us of it. Things were slower and simpler then, but certainly not less contentious.

Now...as far as this thread is concerned....well, it's just more narrow-minded dogmatism being spewed forth from a guy who looks around him, sees change he doesn't like and that, in fact, scares the shit out of him....and so he reacts the only way he knows how. Give him some slack. He can't help it.

That was the politest way I have seen someone call someone else a fucking idiot that I have ever seen (fucking idiot being my words, not Jaggar's).
 
Wrong, young man. Totally wrong.

The two threads have nothing to do with each other and I am a living testament as to why. Sam and I both grew up in the same era and in the same part of the country (evidently)....and yet we both developed totally opposite social and political attitudes. How did that happen? Well, for the same reasons that people in today's world share divergent views....socio-economic and educational reasons being the primary drivers.....just like 2012, OK? Sam wants to continue to call blacks (that's really the best moniker to give them from my perspective....it's what they are just as much as I am "white"....no?) "colored folk". Don't you dare blame it on the fact that he's "an old man"....so am I, sonny, and I have about as much in common with Sam from a social and political perspective as I do with a grapefruit.

Back in the 60s, people were as politically diverse as they are today....it's just that we didn't have 24-hour information streams to remind us of it. Things were slower and simpler then, but certainly not less contentious.

Now...as far as this thread is concerned....well, it's just more narrow-minded dogmatism being spewed forth from a guy who looks around him, sees change he doesn't like and that, in fact, scares the shit out of him....and so he reacts the only way he knows how. Give him some slack. He can't help it.

Good explanation. I wasn't trying to imply that all people who grew up in the 50s and 60s call blacks "colored" or have these types of views. What I meant was that in Sam's case, he seems to long for the past and really clings to the old way of life. Not everyone who says "colored" is doing it to be a racist prick, for some people it's just an honest mistake. I read that many of the older black population in this country still identify with the terms "Negro" and "Colored" more than the current terms. Personally, I say "black" for the same reasons you do.


That was the politest way I have seen someone call someone else a fucking idiot that I have ever seen (fucking idiot being my words, not Jaggar's).

Alright, Mr. Scratch. How am I a fucking idiot?
 
I'm no expert on US history but weren't Blacks still treated as 2nd class citizens in the 1950s? If that's the case being called a Negro would be a major step up from being called a Ni**er and probably the most they could hope for, it would have been ludacrous for them to have demanded being called African Americans when they weren't even allowed to vote, as America finally came to its senses and realised all its citizens are equal there's no reason why ethnic minorities can't ask to be addressed in a more respectful manner with no racial historical connections. ps There is no derogatory word that can be used against a white man that can cause as much distress as ones used against a black man as whites were never enslaved by blacks, no term aimed at you will ever take you back to a time when your ancesters were stolen from their homeland to be used as free labour, traded like cattle, thrown off ships to drown because they were sick/weak or to avoid detection by British patrols or hung from trees in front of baying mobs.

So actually there was no difference between SA and USA till 1950's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_under_apartheid

And Now I understand why USA remained grey. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid

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Please Rockerx, don't undermine the board. It's a tool for expressions. Like any other. How the tool is used is not the fault of the tool.

For instance, take a hammer. It can be used to use it for the purpose of production. And the same one can be used to break some one's head. The hammer is not the culprit.
 
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Mayhem

Banned
For instance, take a hammer. It can be used to use it for the purpose of production. And the same one can be used to break some one's head. The hammer is not the culprit.

We are going to need you and this statement standing by for all future pro-gun vs. anti-gun debates. The code word is "rutabaga", I say again "rutabaga". You will have 2 minutes, from codeword, to deploy. Good luck and Godspeed.
 

bahodeme

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Please Rockerx, don't undermine the board. It's a tool for expressions. Like any other. How the tool is used is not the fault of the tool.

For instance, take a hammer. It can be used to use it for the purpose of production. And the same one can be used to break some one's head. The hammer is not the culprit.


Its moderators and admins jobs to make sure the tool is not being misused or used in a way that would reflect badly on freeones. If I saw this kind of racist shit on here when I first found the forum I would have never joined.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Please Rockerx, don't undermine the board. It's a tool for expressions. Like any other. How the tool is used is not the fault of the tool.

For instance, take a hammer. It can be used to use it for the purpose of production. And the same one can be used to break some one's head. The hammer is not the culprit.

That's a cop-out. It's against the rules to post racist shit and this thread qualifies.
 

Mayhem

Banned
You guys really need to dial down your hysteria. The use of the word "colored" does not classify as racist. Especially in this day and age when the term "******" gets tossed around constantly, including on many gifs that I've seen on this board. Where is the hue and cry when those happen?

Many of you guys hate Sam. We fuckin' get it. But this is like so many political threads, you dog pile the person instead of the issue at hand.

This is not a racist thread, it's a thread about a coocoo-for-cocoapuffs preacher and his half-assed sermons.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
This is not a racist thread, it's a thread about a coocoo-for-cocoapuffs preacher and his half-assed sermons.

The following post is what makes this racist-

Well...

1700s - 1950s they were called ******s.
1950s - 1960s they wanted to be called Negro's and then Colored
1970s - 1980s they wanted to be called Black.
1990s - Present they want to be called African Americans

I am going to call them whatever I want. Y'all have no problem calling me or anyone else in here a derogatory name. So get off your high horse and practice what you preach. :D

He's singling "them" out by their race. Racist anyway you reconcile it.
 

Mayhem

Banned
He's singling "them" out by their race.

Yeah, because that's never happened before.

The post you quoted was the direction that other members took this thread and Sam had the integrity to address it as he saw fit. And the above timeline is pretty damn accurate.

And how exactly does one talk about a race without mentioning what race they are? What are we calling Jews these days? If I call an Hispanic a "Latin" are you guys going to light the torches over that too?
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Why the fuck are you defending Sam on this? It's obvious that he's got a problem with black people. If this was the first time he made racist remarks I wouldn't think anything of it- anyone can poorly phrase an argument. However, with Sam, this is a repeated thing. This isn't an isolated act on Sam's part, it's part of his character.
 
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