Is America a force for good?

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand it begins.

 

[sid-sexy]

Nope and neither is anyone else. There's no such thing. sorry. However there are good people everywhere who do a fair job of trying to help others. Some are from the U.S.A.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

 

[Hot Mega]

Yes.

Some of our leaders...not so much at times.

/thread

 

[darkwarrior3007]

No. That honor goes to Antarctica and it's penguin people.

 

[Galactic]

Yes.

Some of our leaders...not so much at times.

/thread

Damn. I was kinda looking forward to, what I thought was going to be, your point by point dismantling of this guy's thread...you know, where you end it by spankin' him and he runs to a corner and hides. Oh well.

 

[Galactic]

No. That honor goes to Antarctica and it's penguin people.

Penguin People? This sounds serious...why the FUCK am I just now hearing about it?

 

[TheOrangeCat]

 

[mrtrebus]

No!!!!!!!

 

[Jenkum]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2008/jun/11/georgebush.usforeignpolicy?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

Russians too are highly capable and smart you didn't win a war with them they just went bust cause they raped and pillaged instead of co-operation, As free trade with europe and its old colonies in africa in terms of raw resources won the day not american might. Communism too without its incentive system fucked them as well. But once they overcome their corruption even under their dictator putin who is old school KGB. Not a friend of the west, They will grow stronger again due to all those lovely natural gas reserves and will likely penis wag alongside you in the aeronautical industry, I look forward to seeing some russian planes that can kick our asses.

Anyway thats my american venting down. Let the flaming commence.

Russia doesnt have this PC bullshit to slow them dowm and stifle their progress. When you engineer cutting edge fighter jets you need the best man for the job. You dont need to be putting people on the project just because you have to hire certain ethnicities regardless of whether there is a White guy better suited and more qualified for the job.

Look what a disaster the F-22 turned out to be and you get the picture, if you dont know what a disaster the F-22 is then you need to look it up.

The new Russian Sukhoi fighters are beautiful machines, and I wouldnt mind seeing them become victorious over a US led by traitors.

I believe the US is the number 1 force of Evil on earth as it currently exists, and it has been for quite some time.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

What the fuck? Who keeps encouraging this bullshit?

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

No. That honor goes to Antarctica and it's penguin people.

Fucking penguins. Always up to no good.

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[Ace Boobtoucher]

 

[CptHa]

Russia doesnt have this PC bullshit to slow them dowm and stifle their progress. When you engineer cutting edge fighter jets you need the best man for the job. You dont need to be putting people on the project just because you have to hire certain ethnicities regardless of whether there is a White guy better suited and more qualified for the job.

Look what a disaster the F-22 turned out to be and you get the picture, if you dont know what a disaster the F-22 is then you need to look it up.

The new Russian Sukhoi fighters are beautiful machines, and I wouldnt mind seeing them become victorious over a US led by traitors.

I believe the US is the number 1 force of Evil on earth as it currently exists, and it has been for quite some time.

Russia is made up of more than just white people, and your misunderstanding the point of Affirmative Action. Secondly, the Raptor isn't at all a disaster, difficult (but not in the least impossible) to maintain, but can beat anything in the sky. At any rate, the Su-35s are in extremely limited numbers, the Su-37s never reached production, the Su-47 was a technology demonstrator, and the T-50 is merely a prototype. Simply put, the Russian AF is not equipped for a head to head confrontation with the US, so the chances of them winning are correspondent, not that such an engagement is likely to take place.


And I really fail to see how America is evil, we surely have our faults, but to put us on the same scale as the Nazis and Stalinist regimes (let alone international terrorist organizations) is quite reckless.

 

[Galactic]

THIS...is a great post. Europe...take note.

 

[yes yes yes]

Ask Troy Davis in a couple of hours if he's still alive. :2 cents:

He's dead. RIP

I don't think the American government (left or right) is a force for good. :2 cents:

 

[crm999]

Force is almost never "good". They shouldn't even be in the same sentence.

 

[Galactic]

He's dead. RIP

I don't think the American government (left or right) is a force for good. :2 cents:

That's it in a nutshell. Government, no. The people, yes. We are.

 

[eye_am_the_stig]

Yes. The United States has been and always will be the most powerful force for good on the planet.

 

[Jenkum]

Russia is made up of more than just white people, and your misunderstanding the point of Affirmative Action. Secondly, the Raptor isn't at all a disaster, difficult (but not in the least impossible) to maintain, but can beat anything in the sky. At any rate, the Su-35s are in extremely limited numbers, the Su-37s never reached production, the Su-47 was a technology demonstrator, and the T-50 is merely a prototype. Simply put, the Russian AF is not equipped for a head to head confrontation with the US, so the chances of them winning are correspondent, not that such an engagement is likely to take place.

I guess you didnt look it up

Enitire F-22 fleet grounded since May 3rd 2011
http://www.ainonline.com/news/singl...eet-remains-grounded-into-fourth-month-30820/

Stealth coating is crap and peels off
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/13/olsen_raptor_case_gets_to_court/

F-22 has major shortcomings
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR
2009070903020_3.html?sid=ST2009071001019

2nd F-22 fatal crash
http://www.f-16.net/news_article4254.html

Raptor airframes falling apart due to bad glue
http://gizmodo.com/373205/f+22-raptor-airframes-falling-apart-due-to-bad-glue

There have been other legal complications. In late 2005, Boeing learned of defects in titanium booms connecting the wings to the plane, which the company, in a subsequent lawsuit against its supplier, said posed the risk of "catastrophic loss of the aircraft." But rather than shut down the production line -- an act that would have incurred large Air Force penalties -- Boeing reached an accord with the Air Force to resolve the problem through increased inspections over the life of the fleet, with expenses to be mostly paid by the Air Force.

Sprey said engineers who worked on it told him that because of Lockheed's use of hundreds of subcontractors, quality control was so poor that workers had to create a "shim line" at the Georgia plant where they retooled badly designed or poorly manufactured components. "Each plane wound up with all these hand-fitted parts that caused huge fits in maintenance," he said. "They were not interchangeable."

The plane's million-dollar radar-absorbing canopy has also caused problems, with a stuck hatch imprisoning a pilot for hours in 2006 and engineers unable to extend the canopy's lifespan beyond about 18 months of flying time. It delaminates, "loses its strength and finish," said an official privy to Air Force data.

There has been some gradual progress. At the plane's first operational flight test in September 2004, it fully met two of 22 key requirements and had a total of 351 deficiencies; in 2006, it fully met five; in 2008, when squadrons were deployed at six U.S. bases, it fully met seven.

"It flunked on suitability measures -- availability, reliability, and maintenance," said Christie about the first of those tests. "There was no consequence. It did not faze anybody who was in the decision loop" for approving the plane's full production. This outcome was hardly unique, Christie adds. During his tenure in the job from 2001 to 2005, "16 or 17 major weapons systems flunked" during initial operational tests, and "not one was stopped as a result."

Fatal Test Flight


One of the last four planes Gates supported buying is meant to replace an F-22 that crashed during a test flight north of Los Angeles on March 25, during his review of the program. The Air Force has declined to discuss the cause, but a classified internal accident report completed the following month states that the plane flew into the ground after poorly executing a high-speed run with its weapons-bay doors open, according to three government officials familiar with its contents. The Lockheed test pilot died.

I could go on and on and on......the Raptor is a piece of shit, The USA cant even build a decent airplane anymore, our country is going further down the toilet everyday and it shows in all aspects.