Is abortion murder?

[lioneye713]

whoremaker is getting pretty heated and since this isnt so much a discussion as trading of blows (the bad kind) im gonna go with the more pleasant side of this and say:

Cheesecake is delicious, you should be ashamed of yourselves

 

[STDiva]

I can't wait to impregnate a woman so she can abort the shit out of that kid. I'll buy her lunch or something as reward.

It isn't murder until they fail their alphabet test son. Real talk.

 

[whoremaker]

whoremaker is getting pretty heated and since this isnt so much a discussion as trading of blows (the bad kind) im gonna go with the more pleasant side of this and say:

Cheesecake is delicious, you should be ashamed of yourselves

??? Where'd you come up with that? Not used to intelligent discussion or something? Perhaps you need a drink or a hit of something. If this is "heated" then I hope you never have to experience an actual argument.

 

[lioneye713]

See now youre assuming i need a mind altering substance, attacking me instead of discussing the issue. Why dont you try some deep breathing exercises?

 

[calpoon]

I still haven't heard a single decent, intelligent and reasoned argument for why abortion isn't murder.

Murder is a criminal charge that is decided by a court of law. Since abortion is legal it therefor is not a crime, and thus cannot be murder.

Have a nice day. :hatsoff:

 

[whoremaker]

See now youre assuming i need a mind altering substance, attacking me instead of discussing the issue. Why dont you try some deep breathing exercises?

Nice try sport, but You Missed your exit onto the High Road. First, I've discussed, far more intelligently than you, the issue all along. Second, it was you who first let fly with your impotent little attack. So like I said, nice try. But no win for you.

Murder is a criminal charge that is decided by a court of law. Since abortion is legal it therefor is not a crime, and thus cannot be murder.

Have a nice day. :hatsoff:

Not quite. Guilt is decided by a court. Murder is a concept with roots stretching back through the ages. Better luck next time.

 

[marquis2]

If it's done to protect the life of the mother, OK, sad but necessary.
If it's done simply because a child would be inconvenient then it's probably unjustified.
What I don't accept is the woman's right to choose.Provided she allowed the impregnation in the first place (not rape) then there are two other parties with a stake-the man and the child itself.

 

[meesterperfect]

please allow me to introduce myself.


my opinion, i think most will agree
at the moment of conception a life is formed, it is alive so it is a life.
so ending a life with abortion is killing right?
thats what it means , killing the life inside the womb.
and killing is murder, true?
ok.

legally though it is not murder, depending on the gestation time , depending on the state.
its like in some states you cant have sex with a girl who is 15 years, 364 days old, but the next day you can.

 

[meesterperfect]

If it's done to protect the life of the mother, OK, sad but necessary.
If it's done simply because a child would be inconvenient then it's probably unjustified.
What I don't accept is the woman's right to choose.Provided she allowed the impregnation in the first place (not rape) then there are two other parties with a stake-the man and the child itself.

no marq the man or even husband has absolutely no say in the decision, even if he takes sole custody and agrees to relieve the woman of all legal responsability, he has no say at all.
imagine if you were expecting a baby, happy as hell, then 5,6,7,8 months into the pregnancy the woman decides to abort it, even if shes mentally unstable the father can do nothing to stop her.
i wish that would happen to many extreme pro or pro late term abortion guys, bet that would change their thinking a bit.

 

[Alyssa Rose]

no marq the man or even husband has absolutely no say in the decision, even if he takes sole custody and agrees to relieve the woman of all legal responsability, he has no say at all.
imagine if you were expecting a baby, happy as hell, then 5,6,7,8 months into the pregnancy the woman decides to abort it, even if shes mentally unstable the father can do nothing to stop her.
i wish that would happen to many extreme pro or pro late term abortion guys, bet that would change their thinking a bit.

I think this is so sad! Men deserve the right to stand up and take care of their baby, whether the woman want it or not.

 

[meesterperfect]

i cant rep you enough hss, liked your earlier post too.
smart, sensible , sensitive and pretty
nice combo you got there kid

 

[Boothbabe]

@ whoremaker:

What if doctors find out a foetus will develope a severe handicap wich is going to cause a lot of pain, do you think it's alright to perform an abortion in such a case?

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

Great stuff whoremaker. Rep for you.
And HSS, I agree. Its just as much the fathers decision as the mothers. Its his child too.

 

[meesterperfect]

sorry to interupt boothbabe, i know the question wasnt for me.
thats a thin line, severe handicap, what exactly is that?
how about down syndrome, is that severe?
just curious because alot of abortions are done after the mother finds out, some at very late term.

 

[Marlo Manson]

I am gonna get right too the point, NO IT IS NOT MURDER! I think NO MATTER WHAT the situation is, if a woman does NOT want to be pregnant, she should not be forced to carry a baby to full term. NO Ifs Ands or Buts about it! :2 cents:

Its her body & I think she has the right too unequivocally decide whether or not she wants a baby or not! NOBODY should be able to trump the impregnated woman's decision! NOBODY! :uohs:

 

[Boothbabe]

thats a thin line, severe handicap, what exactly is that? how about down syndrome, is that severe?

There's a boy who lives further down my street who has down syndrome and he's very happy and leads a healthy life so that doesn't qualify as a severe handicap in my book. There are also people with down syndrome who suffer from constant physical and mental pain wich requires heavy medication. I would call that a severe handicap. Doctors can determine if a child will have down syndrome but not what form it will take on as far as I know so in the case of down syndrome the decision is very hard. But wat if doctors discover a foetus has a genetic defect wich will cause very painfull deformities, I think we can all agree that qualifies as a severe handicap. In such a case abortion is the humane thing to do imo.

 

[Facetious]

I have found that attitudes on abortion, for guys anyway, are often formed on the basis of whether they like children or not and let's face it, children aren't very popular in today's western values culture. Really, how many young guys today dream of getting married and having a family ? Quite few in my parts.

Another thing that I have found interesting is that, I have friends that were staunchly pro abortion at any cost, some ten years ago, however today, they're married and have a kid or two and wouldn't you know it, they're kinda centered or actually leaning pro life.

One more thing to take note of - When you hear of somebody on the pro life side of the equation, this doesn't necessarily mean that they would vote accordingly to suspend a woman's right to choose, they'd just rather see individuals take better responsibility so that pregnancy terminations are held to a minimum.

~Just sayin~

 

[habo9]

rather see individuals take better responsibility so that pregnancy terminations are held to a minimum.

:thumbsup:Agreed people should take more care

 

[fingers_bob]

Yes, I think it's bloody murder.

 

[Icewater Jones]

I'm not really sure whether it is or it isn't, but I do know that if something is argued about and people are murdered over for longer than I've been alive, there's probably something to that. If it truly was not murder, I don't think this would be an issue, and we probably wouldn't be talking about it.

There is, however, an undeniable sense of wrongness about it.