I'll allow Sam to respond to this before I pass judgement

[Mayhem]

I'm laughing at a punk coward Sam. I'm laughing at you.

 

[Rey C.]

After gaining a slight bit of credibility with me for some of his reason posts that I have seen, that has all gone out of the window......it has proved to me that you are nothing but a troll and a thorn in this boards side.....

Unless you really follow his generally rather retarded posts, he can fool you from time to time. Some of it is clearly bluster because he loves any kind of attention that he can get. So he'll say and do anything to get it. But at heart, I think he really is a fairly unintelligent, backward thinking person. As my grandfather said, we are all ignorant about something. But to be proud of ones ignorance translates to stupidity. Ignorance can be corrected by seeking and accepting knowledge. But prideful ignorance and stupidity... well, stupid is the one thing that cannot be fixed.

The quote below is one that I captured, which I feel fully represents what this character is all about. He's the kind of guy who would call you "Honey" and ask you if your husband/boyfriend has given you permission to be doing videos and taking pics for websites. Is he OK with that?! And when you get done, at the end of the day, you need to be in the kitchen making him a sammich and vacuuming the living room carpet. Cause let's be honest, that sammich ain't gonna make itself, now is it? :nono: He's just a class act from top to bottom. And once he realizes that you're multi-racial/multi-ethnic, well, it really gets ugly then.

 

[Rey C.]

Remember that time I got him unbanned? It fuckin' haunts me.

I voted for George W. Bush in 2000. So we all have a cross to bear. And I (sadly) did more damage to the republic in that, than you did in getting ol' numbnuts unbanned here.

 

[assari]

I don't know if you are being deliberately dense, or if there is a language issue here.

I do not understand all the things that you write.

But I can see the situation.

A certain writer's style irritates certain people and it causes endless hostility.

 

[Briana Lee]

Freeone members are people, not trolls.

Oh look another gif.....so mature.....he really has zero guts. Dishes it out enough but just can't take it.

Unless you really follow his generally rather retarded posts, he can fool you from time to time. Some of it is clearly bluster because he loves any kind of attention that he can get. So he'll say and do anything to get it. But at heart, I think he really is a fairly unintelligent, backward thinking person. As my grandfather said, we are all ignorant about something. But to be proud of ones ignorance translates to stupidity. Ignorance can be corrected by seeking and accepting knowledge. But prideful ignorance and stupidity... well, stupid is the one thing that cannot be fixed.

The quote below is one that I captured, which I feel fully represents what this character is all about. He's the kind of guy who would call you "Honey" and ask you if your husband/boyfriend has given you permission to be doing videos and taking pics for websites. Is he OK with that?! And when you get done, at the end of the day, you need to be in the kitchen making him a sammich and vacuuming the living room carpet. Cause let's be honest, that sammich ain't gonna make itself, now is it? :nono: He's just a class act from top to bottom. And once he realizes that you're multi-racial/multi-ethnic, well, it really gets ugly then.

I'm multi racial....let's see him start something against me....

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Briana Lee[/URL][/B], post: 7171994, member: 586426"]Oh look another gif.....so mature.....he really has zero guts. Dishes it out enough but just can't take it.



I'm multi racial....let's see him start something against me....

Ah Briana sometimes when I close my eyes.........

 

[lurkingdirk]

I do not understand all the things that you write.

But I can see the situation.

A certain writer's style irritates certain people and it causes endless hostility.

No. Not his writing style, the things he says.

 

[xfire]

I understand what you're trying to say, but I am a neutral party who is trying to understand liberals and conservatives. It is sad to see that you Americans are so bad terms with each other. "If you behave kindly you get a lot of friends."(Old Finnish saying)

What you need to understand is that no one is trying to stop Sam or Will from being dumb motherfuckers. Most people are merely tired of their spamming and trolling. It's not the content of the message either one of them is pushing that causes a problem, it's the methods they both use to further their cause.

 

[bobjustbob]

Assari, it is not their politics or writing style that gets people angry. It is their behavior. To get an understanding of the difference between the Libs and Cons you need to sort through lots of crap from the extreme on both sides. They both like to shout and not listen. The rest of us like to talk to each other. If crazies from the left came here with the same behavior of those 2 they would be treated the same way.

 

[Rey C.]

I'm multi racial....let's see him start something against me....

For several reasons, he'd never challenge you directly. Because you're an intelligent, independent, opinionated female, you're like a walking, talking 110 pound bag of Kryptonite to our (faux) Superman. Now he might drop little, general nasties here & there that you might find offensive - but he'll never challenge you directly. You'd make him look stupid (stupider), plus he seems to have real issues with women in general... especially independent thinkers. He's just a classic troll in that way.

The part that I find really, really interesting about this joker is how he tries to impress us with how manly he is. He's a manly man who has manly man stuff and does manly man things. Yeah! The Harley and the guns, pictures of the Harley and the guns, always talking about the Harley and the guns, pictures of him wearing his leather chaps with the Harley... and the guns. And then the recent rants about gays. Hmm. Over compensate much? Ya don't think that maybe ol' Sam is... Nah, guys who are fighting taking that first step out of the closet don't try to convince themselves and others that they're not what they actually are, now do they?

 

[assari]

Assari, it is not their politics or writing style that gets people angry. It is their behavior.

Bob, I have to remain neutral and to say that I do not see the matter in that way.

I also can not say that that's not true because I can see that their behavior is irritating to some writers.

Perhaps the internet debates arouse feelings more than the real life conversations?

 

[xfire]

The part that I find really, really interesting about this joker is how he tries to impress us with how manly he is.

He's a fucking runt. I doubt if he tops 5'7" or 140 lbs.

Bob, I have to remain neutral and to say that I do not see the matter in that way. I also can not say that that's not true because I can see that their behavior is irritating to some writers. Perhaps the internet debates arouse feelings more than the real life conversations?

You can remain neutral and stay true to the facts, the two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if you ignore the facts you're no longer neutral, but partisan.

 

[bobjustbob]

Bob, I have to remain neutral and to say that I do not see the matter in that way.

I also can not say that that's not true because I can see that their behavior is irritating to some writers.

Perhaps the internet debates arouse feelings more than the real life conversations?

It is not about their politics. I hold the same conservative views as them. I get challenged the same way that they do. What I do is give a respectful thought out response. In turn I am given the same. Sometimes we will see a Sam/Will from the left with their gifs and that stuff just gets passed by.

It's not about writing either. You understand less about politics and the English language than all of us. Yet you are given more respect for your opinion than those 2. Why? Because you formulate organized thoughts and present them. For some reason they can't or won't do that. They have been encouraged to express their feelings in more detail but it always comes back to the same cute pictures with captions or smiley faces. This kind of behavior deserves no respect. The beatings they get are because they continue to walk in and ask to be hit. If they didn't want it after all of these years they would learn stay away.


Rey C, did you say leather chaps? That is very manly.

 

[assari]

You can remain neutral and stay true to the facts, the two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if you ignore the facts you're no longer neutral, but partisan.

I do not know how to explain this issue in your langue.

I can see that Sam and Will are the bad guys and their behavior can irrate to some people.

But their behavior does not irratate me.

 

[assari]

You understand less about politics and the English language than all of us. Yet you are given more respect for your opinion than those 2. Why? Because you formulate organized thoughts and present them.

For some reason they can't or won't do that.

-I am grateful for that.

-Maybe these two guys do not want to argue with you because thy have such a dictionary views?

 

[xfire]

I do not know how to explain this issue in your langue. I can see that Sam and Will are the bad guys and their behavior can irrate to some people. But their behavior does not irratate me.

Hopefully he will take offense to you calling him a bad guy and start trolling you.

 

[Sam Fisher]

He's a fucking runt. I doubt if he tops 5'7" or 140 lbs.

5'-10" 190 lb.

 

[Briana Lee]

For several reasons, he'd never challenge you directly. Because you're an intelligent, independent, opinionated female, you're like a walking, talking 110 pound bag of Kryptonite to our (faux) Superman. Now he might drop little, general nasties here & there that you might find offensive - but he'll never challenge you directly. You'd make him look stupid (stupider), plus he seems to have real issues with women in general... especially independent thinkers. He's just a classic troll in that way.

The part that I find really, really interesting about this joker is how he tries to impress us with how manly he is. He's a manly man who has manly man stuff and does manly man things. Yeah! The Harley and the guns, pictures of the Harley and the guns, always talking about the Harley and the guns, pictures of him wearing his leather chaps with the Harley... and the guns. And then the recent rants about gays. Hmm. Over compensate much? Ya don't think that maybe ol' Sam is... Nah, guys who are fighting taking that first step out of the closet don't try to convince themselves and others that they're not what they actually are, now do they?

110 pounds.....man I love you Rey.

Well he knows where I am if he feels he has the guts to have a real debate.

5'-10" 190 lb.

Oh look a reply from the man himself. I bet it's a really intelli....oh no wait.....

 

[ApolloBalboa]

5'-10" 190 lb.

I like the chaps.

 

[StanScratch]

I do not know how to explain this issue in your langue.

I can see that Sam and Will are the bad guys and their behavior can irrate to some people.

But their behavior does not irratate me.

Not to defend them, but I would not label Sam nor Will "bad guys". That is a term reserved for movie villains or people in the real world who have truly done evil - Hitler, Dahmer, Manson, Beiber. Sam and Will are too insignificant to be labeled as such.

And I have to scoff at someone boasting about their height and weight in the post above. Five ten? Seriously? I am five ten...I consider myself a short guy. I weigh 15 pounds less - most of it in my legs. I am not a large man. So, yeah, it would also be a runt cunt.