Hollow Point Bullets
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I wouldn't know. Silly me, I've spent my whole life trying to avoid getting shot.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
I carry hollow points and the point of using them isn't to cause more pain. The point is to put someone down.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
They are also far less likely to go through things. They expand, causing them to loose energy, and slow down drastically. If you fire a round, you are responsible for it, until it stops, so if you should happen to miss, and hit an inanimate object, you don't want the round to go through it. Including the person you are shooting at.
Hollow points are more likely to expand on impact. A bigger diameter and bigger wound cavity means potentially more damage to critical organs and arteries and, therefor, a better chance of neutralizing an attacker quicker. Some JHPs (jacketed hollow points) are designed to fragment as well. Meaning, when they expand on impact, the "petals" of the jacket break off creating secondary wound channels.
"Normal" ammo FMJ/ball ammo tends to keep it's shape after being fired into soft tissue or an analog like ballistics gelatin. So the bullet doesn't deform or deforms very little. http://i.imgur.com/bS9oQA8.jpg
Hollow points are designed to do the opposite. For example, I carry a .45 loaded with 230 grain Federal HST (the round on the right)
It wasn't created to cause more pain or agony, it was designed to do the exact opposite; end a threat as quickly as possible. And, like TheWhiteDevil said, they're less likely to over-penetrate and will lose a significant amount one energy and velocity once they impact something. Imagine punching down into a bucket of water with your fist. Then image doing the same, but opening your hand once you breach the water.
"Normal" ammo FMJ/ball ammo tends to keep it's shape after being fired into soft tissue or an analog like ballistics gelatin. So the bullet doesn't deform or deforms very little. http://i.imgur.com/bS9oQA8.jpg
Hollow points are designed to do the opposite. For example, I carry a .45 loaded with 230 grain Federal HST (the round on the right)
It wasn't created to cause more pain or agony, it was designed to do the exact opposite; end a threat as quickly as possible. And, like TheWhiteDevil said, they're less likely to over-penetrate and will lose a significant amount one energy and velocity once they impact something. Imagine punching down into a bucket of water with your fist. Then image doing the same, but opening your hand once you breach the water.
I hope so too.
I watched the video and was shocked at first that the woman was able to run after being shot at that range. I assumed the asshole shooter was close enough for a head shot, but I guess not. Keep in mind, even if she was shot in a vital organ like the heart, liver or lungs, it won't necessarily be an instant kill like, say, a shot to the spinal cord or medulla oblongata. There have been cases where people have been shot directly in the heart and managed to remain conscious and even ambulatory for 15 to 20 seconds. I don't know exactly where that poor woman was shot, but it could have taken several seconds for her to bleed out or for her organs to fully fail.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
My wife uses FMJ ammo in her .38 but she really has no desire to use her gun as a killing weapon....she just wants to stop the intruder from completing his intentions. She actually never wanted the gun to begin with but, due to the extensive travel nature of my job, I convinced her that she needed a gun for protection. Honestly, I'm not sure that she would ever really be able to pull the trigger or not but I damned sure want her to have that option if she needs it.
I currently don't have a pistol....I used a Mossburg .12 gauge pump for home protection but I have been giving more thought recently to getting a pistol to take with me on the road. Pepper spray just isn't enough unfortunately. Our society sucks when everyday citizens feel threatened enough to feel the need to carry a gun with them everywhere we go. Wish it were not so but the older I get, the more vulnerable I realize I am becoming.
I currently don't have a pistol....I used a Mossburg .12 gauge pump for home protection but I have been giving more thought recently to getting a pistol to take with me on the road. Pepper spray just isn't enough unfortunately. Our society sucks when everyday citizens feel threatened enough to feel the need to carry a gun with them everywhere we go. Wish it were not so but the older I get, the more vulnerable I realize I am becoming.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
So you gave her a gun without having had her go through any kind of training? I thought you were more responsible than that.
Shots fired. Shots fired :stir:
4-Adam-30, 4-Adam-30, shots fired at the 700 block of freeones dr.
copy that, Hooker and Romano are on the scene
:dominatrix::kitty:
BlkHawk
Closed Account
I'm guessing he means pull the trigger when the gun is pointed at someone when he said the following:
I would imagine she has pulled the trigger with the gun aimed at a target.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Will. Just fucking stop with the false flag bullshit. Two people were killed because a crazy gay black man was angry enough to do something really sickening. You dishonor the memory of two people who hadn't even made it to the prime of life by throwing shade.
It's that simple. There's no goddamn boogeyman hiding in the shadows and pulling puppet strings. Save this shit for your tranny-loving Alex Jones worshipping bullshit forums.
It's that simple. There's no goddamn boogeyman hiding in the shadows and pulling puppet strings. Save this shit for your tranny-loving Alex Jones worshipping bullshit forums.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Doesn't matter, asshat. You're the one promulgating crap theories. Just fucking stop. No one is going to agree with you on this one. I thought it couldn't get more stupid and insidious after people tried to politicize this shooting mere hours after it happened; but then you go and do this. You deserved to repeat as Asshat Of The Year. Everyone knows it and in a just world Supa would relinquish his crown to you.
How does the cupcake even have the capacity to embed such monumentally stupid videos? The only hypothesis I can come up with is that one brain cell keeps his heart beating and the other one is solely to post other peoples stupidity. No wonder he can't even type out any real personal opinions.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I didn't say that. She received instruction at a local indoor range near our house. She just isn't enthusiastic about it. When I said I don't know if she could pull the trigger, I meant in a life-or-death situation, not shooting at a target.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Ace Boobtoucher
ThatRedWing
Grow up, and stop believing the television.
ThatRedWing
Grow up, and stop believing the television.
Cupcake come up with an original thought.
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