Have anyone in here ever been in a real fight?
Too many to mention growing up. Mostly 4-5 guys trying to say they took out the big dude. I always figured if I took out at least 2 that people wouldn't like the odds and leave me the hell alone. In my teens about half a dozen although 3 of them were with the same guy who couldn't face the fact that a sophomore kicked his senior ass. As an adult I went almost 20 years without one. I can usually bullshit my way out of them or failing that intimidation will suffice. I did have a go with my crackhead ex-roommate and almost killed him with a choke hold. Thank god that asshole is gone.
As kid I was many times fighting with my brother (rip), but now I am looking back and think that it was not serious enough. Also there were some not very serious conflicts in school. Maybe the worst one was when I was about 18 or 19 years old. It was in a subway, at the station. I was attacked by 3 soccer hooligans, they start beating me without saying a word. As soon as a train stoped at the platform, and I was about to enter it, they jump up at me, and one of them gave a sharp blow with his elbow straight to my nose. I was absolutely unready for that stuff. It caught me unprepared. They were not talking, insulting, asking for my money or smth like that, as it usually happens, they just start beating.
I think I was lucky enough, that I was able to stand on my feet in spite of been hit in the face several times. I was trying to defend myself and to hit them back, but all my thought in that moment were about the train - I was not ready to fight 3 guys at the same time, both morally and physically. And though some of my punches landed on their faces, I was puted to flight. I cuted my way to the train, and jumped it, leaving them at the platform. It was a good lesson to me. And that lesson is more important and more valueable result of that incident, than broken nose, ragged lips, and blood all over my clothes. But still, I do not think it was a "real fight", cuz my bones and teeth were safe and sound, and this is the main criterion to define if the fight was really tough.
As for tactik.. I think that best idea is to try to escape, and leave the fight. To throw some punches, to kick your enemy in his eggs, try to knock him out, to broke a bottle on his head, but not to to engage in a *long* battle, always try to find the best moment to escape - when your enemy is in a knock-down, or just under impression of the last punch. as for weapons... I do not carry anything. but I will use everything I will have at the moment - bottle, stone, or whatever else.
I think I was lucky enough, that I was able to stand on my feet in spite of been hit in the face several times. I was trying to defend myself and to hit them back, but all my thought in that moment were about the train - I was not ready to fight 3 guys at the same time, both morally and physically. And though some of my punches landed on their faces, I was puted to flight. I cuted my way to the train, and jumped it, leaving them at the platform. It was a good lesson to me. And that lesson is more important and more valueable result of that incident, than broken nose, ragged lips, and blood all over my clothes. But still, I do not think it was a "real fight", cuz my bones and teeth were safe and sound, and this is the main criterion to define if the fight was really tough.
As for tactik.. I think that best idea is to try to escape, and leave the fight. To throw some punches, to kick your enemy in his eggs, try to knock him out, to broke a bottle on his head, but not to to engage in a *long* battle, always try to find the best moment to escape - when your enemy is in a knock-down, or just under impression of the last punch. as for weapons... I do not carry anything. but I will use everything I will have at the moment - bottle, stone, or whatever else.
bigbadbrody
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oh shit:eek: I hope that wasn't you
dave_rhino
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When I was a kid I got in a few.
I remember the first time I ever punched someone, I was about 7 years old and I totally floored him haha.
I went to a pretty rough school when I was a teenager, got in a few then. Once I used a weapon (A chain) because I was being threatend with a knife.
Since then I barely get in fights, I got mugged once and woke up with a black eye and bloody fists, but I was so drunk I don't remember what happened.
I don't at all agree with fighting, but it seems to me it's just a part of growing up. Learning to protect yourself at a young age is very important.
I remember the first time I ever punched someone, I was about 7 years old and I totally floored him haha.
I went to a pretty rough school when I was a teenager, got in a few then. Once I used a weapon (A chain) because I was being threatend with a knife.
Since then I barely get in fights, I got mugged once and woke up with a black eye and bloody fists, but I was so drunk I don't remember what happened.
I don't at all agree with fighting, but it seems to me it's just a part of growing up. Learning to protect yourself at a young age is very important.
Wow what a story dude, sorry bout your bro. I don't condone getting into fights, most of the times I will try to negotiate or bullshit my way out of it with some integrity. Now like someone else said sometimes is just a part of growing up and you either fight and get some respect or be someone's else pussy. It took me two years to confront a bully during my middle school years and ever since I don't bow down to bullies or put up with their shit and I got this sense of detecting when someone is a bully and it fucking irritates. Shit even when I was 16 my 20 year old brother tried that shit on me and it led to both of us fighting all out, punches, grappling, me putting him on a guillotine hold (because he was a high school wrestling champion his strenght was unreal with devastating punching power), but the end result was that I gained his respect and never again he tried to punk out his lil brother. Now for those of you that have never been in one I hope you never get into one or if you do I hope you ready because it's gonna be a painful first time. I think one of the movies that closely resembles what real fights are like is probably Fight Club. Sure you can learn some good defensive tactics from UFC and other MMA competitions but sometimes that wont'n help you when is more than one guy, unless you are a monster of a man. One time I saw this one tall black guy take out three cops with his lighting quick fist. One cop was kayoed, the other had a broken jaw and the third one called for back up which ended up tassing him and he ws only 21 years old and skinny too. I guess some folks are just natural born fighters.
ChefChiTown
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The only "fight" I've ever been in wasn't really a fight at all.
I was at a bar (imagine that) and some dude kept hitting on one of my female friends and she wanted nothing to do with it. He was pretty persistent and seemed kind of aggressive, but I let it slide at first because I didn't want to be the over-protective-macho-asshole-friend. Then, as she eventually tried to walk away from him, he grabbed her arm really hard and spun her around. As I walked over to get in the middle of it, he went to choke her, so I punched him in the mouth and then slammed his face on the bar.
I broke his jaw and shattered some of his teeth, but he deserved it. Fucking asshole.
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I was at a bar (imagine that) and some dude kept hitting on one of my female friends and she wanted nothing to do with it. He was pretty persistent and seemed kind of aggressive, but I let it slide at first because I didn't want to be the over-protective-macho-asshole-friend. Then, as she eventually tried to walk away from him, he grabbed her arm really hard and spun her around. As I walked over to get in the middle of it, he went to choke her, so I punched him in the mouth and then slammed his face on the bar.
I broke his jaw and shattered some of his teeth, but he deserved it. Fucking asshole.
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Actually that just shows your only interested in belts in I'm guessing Karate. As any person who actually was more interested in the actual competitions would tell you that's a very bad tactic. As 95% of people will protect the face. Also that if your up against a strong person the stomach is a better place to hit. But the best tactic in any fight is to take the other person to the floor as quick as possible.
Yes I've had fights, that is why I took up Karate. I was lets just say a very angry person in my youth. The Karate taught me to control this.
Using a weapon is a sign of weakness. Take that weapon off them and the fight is over and that's not as hard as it sounds.
I do agree on the face factor. Professional fighters cover their hands to protect them from breaking when they hit someone in the head not the other way around because the skull is a very strong bone structure, unless you are very good zeroing your punches and break someone's nose in a very nasty way, maybe then it will work, since most people tend to panic from the excrutiating pain of a broken nose.
Taking it to the ground is good is you know what you are doing and got some good cardio also. All that grappling you see in MMA takes a lot of cardio and normal folks would just pass out from getting tired. When I was younger I could grapple for two hours the most, not anymore though.
The weapon choice is only good when you are all out of options as means of "equalizing" the chances of winning or basically surviving and when everything else fails hope that you got some gas and do like someone else did "run", yell for help, hide, just get away from the person you just pissed off.
Ill try to stay away and end the fight before it even starts by talking.
When you know that hitting a man in the face and he goes down and hits his head and dies... its not very funny. Not many know that fighting is fucking stupid.
I hate to read in the papers when someone goes home friday night and some asshole guy acts tough and kicks him in the face and while goind down dies. (happened near where i live, and another got injured so badly he lives in respiratory system rest of hes life and cant talk and is basically a vegetable)
Have you guys ever been in school (or army) a class that shows what happens to face after a fight. Pretty nasty pictures of broken jaws and teeths, blind eyes and other injuries.
Professional fighting is a different matter, im a big fan of martials and boxing and like to watch UFC etc. Street fights should end, thats where the injuries happen.
When you know that hitting a man in the face and he goes down and hits his head and dies... its not very funny. Not many know that fighting is fucking stupid.
I hate to read in the papers when someone goes home friday night and some asshole guy acts tough and kicks him in the face and while goind down dies. (happened near where i live, and another got injured so badly he lives in respiratory system rest of hes life and cant talk and is basically a vegetable)
Have you guys ever been in school (or army) a class that shows what happens to face after a fight. Pretty nasty pictures of broken jaws and teeths, blind eyes and other injuries.
Professional fighting is a different matter, im a big fan of martials and boxing and like to watch UFC etc. Street fights should end, thats where the injuries happen.
I have never killed anyone nor do I desire to kill anyone ever. But sometimes when you are not a big guy like me people think that they can just walk over you. Sure I try to talk, but sometimes some folks don't talk they just lunge at you and hit and don't care if you head hits the floor and die, sometimes there's no way out of it. Now I was in the ARMY for 8 years and I had to train my soldiers and most of them where taller and younger than me, but when we went to Iraq twice I told them that those guys were not looking to talk so they had to be prepared to defend themselves and this was before the ARMY went into combatatives. Before then theres was a Training Manual showing pressure points, lethal blows and some other stuff mostly from WWII, but nothing recent so that's why the started that combatative stuff now, before that It was just hip tosses, judo throws and yelling out loud "punch, kill, kill" in basic training.
dave_rhino
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There is nothing funny about self-defense and I don't think anyone has ever tried to say there is humour to it.
I know your post was attacking the assholes who start fights, but it's not always possible to talk your way out of conflict, sometimes using your fists is the only chance you have.
If your goal is to fight, you'd better be prepared for serious injuries. But if you have character and strength you walk away knowing you are a far better person that the one who want to fight you.
I've been into fights and not proud of it. Learn two things do!
1. Do not start a fight.
2. The 1-second rule in street fights. From the moment you get hit there is a one second to react. In that second you need to determine strength of attacker (can I fight him/her or should I run). If you decide to fight then you should already have hit him/her. If you run you should be moving your legs really fast now.
If you get hit and freezes (because of shock or other) then you better prepare youself for another hit since the attacker wont stop until you lie on the ground or even worse, are dead. Also remember the weak/fatal spots of human body. Nose, balls, end of ribs (where ur stomach begins) knees, between neck and start of skull. A strike at any of these zones will buy you enough time to escape or get you upper hand of the fight.
And if you are to use deadly force during that 1-second aim for *******.
If knives are involved I would suggest anyone not trained for such fight to run, run as hell. But if escaping is not possible make sure you protect yourself either by dodging or with the arms. Either get close enough for hammerstrike or keep the distance and use kicks.
Oh well... wasnt ment to be such a long post hehe, but as I said at the beginning. I've been in various fights, and its not pleasant and can turn really ugly in seconds.
I've been into fights and not proud of it. Learn two things do!
1. Do not start a fight.
2. The 1-second rule in street fights. From the moment you get hit there is a one second to react. In that second you need to determine strength of attacker (can I fight him/her or should I run). If you decide to fight then you should already have hit him/her. If you run you should be moving your legs really fast now.
If you get hit and freezes (because of shock or other) then you better prepare youself for another hit since the attacker wont stop until you lie on the ground or even worse, are dead. Also remember the weak/fatal spots of human body. Nose, balls, end of ribs (where ur stomach begins) knees, between neck and start of skull. A strike at any of these zones will buy you enough time to escape or get you upper hand of the fight.
And if you are to use deadly force during that 1-second aim for *******.
If knives are involved I would suggest anyone not trained for such fight to run, run as hell. But if escaping is not possible make sure you protect yourself either by dodging or with the arms. Either get close enough for hammerstrike or keep the distance and use kicks.
Oh well... wasnt ment to be such a long post hehe, but as I said at the beginning. I've been in various fights, and its not pleasant and can turn really ugly in seconds.
Good points! Even though I might resort to suing an "equalizer", knives and guns are meant to cause big time damage probably death to someone or it can even be turned on you, so I don't condone the use of such things. But like I said before in a street fight there are no rules and you never know what the other person has wiyth him, phycological background (has he killed anyone before or he full of hate) or his intentions with you, so most times is better talking or running, then again those alternatives might have been taken away from you so now what?..you are in a fight
That's more like a gunfight or shootout. I was asking more like hand to hand fights. Still interesting post, you might get into a lot of it with drunk folks do you?
some assholes surely deserve to get smashed! respect.
and what was after that? I wonder if there were some troubles with security guys of that bar, or maybe even with the police.. what you were doing after that fight - did you stay at the bar? and what was this asshole was doing with his broken jaw? just went out? had anybody called ambulance?
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