Guest on Glenn Beck's Show Says Another Terrorist Attack is "Our Only Chance"!!

[Facial_King]

...and of course Beck doesn't utter a word of disagreement.

They're wishing and hoping for another terrorist attack. So classy!!

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/michael-scheuer-fox-americas-only-ho

 

[Hot Mega]

The beauty of this BS is right as this clown he's interviewing claims neither Bush nor Obama (or properly neither "side") cares about the border...the update bar right beneath this clown says "1500 National Guard Troops to US-Mexico border"...

Never mind the small nugget that Obama has come through on his promise to send more troops to Afghanistan and he's also increased the pressure on Pakistan which has resulted in the first serious effort to rout the Taliban and AQ within their borders since this thing started.

These clowns have nothing but shrill.....you say "black", they say "white", you say "up", they say "down" irrespective of what the facts are....

Cheney just charged that terrorists in Iraq were waiting for Obama to pull troops back so they could attack...never mind the fact that the order was signed under GWB in December....:dunno:

 

[Mauser98k]

can we send Glenn Beck and his guests to Guantanamo Bay?

 

[titsrock]

Glenn Beck is a dumb asshole. Everyday offers up a new oppty for him to prove that out.

 

[Ainttalkinlove]

He is a stupid fuckin doom sayer why does anyone post this shit. IGNORE GLENN BECK. he'll go away

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

The beauty of this BS is right as this clown he's interviewing claims neither Bush nor Obama (or properly neither "side") cares about the border...the update bar right beneath this clown says "1500 National Guard Troops to US-Mexico border"...

Never mind the small nugget that Obama has come through on his promise to send more troops to Afghanistan and he's also increased the pressure on Pakistan which has resulted in the first serious effort to rout the Taliban and AQ within their borders since this thing started.

These clowns have nothing but shrill.....you say "black", they say "white", you say "up", they say "down" irrespective of what the facts are....

Cheney just charged that terrorists in Iraq were waiting for Obama to pull troops back so they could attack...never mind the fact that the order was signed under GWB in December....:dunno:

I was watching that, and it's true neither cares about the border. Neither is willing to touch it because for some reason they think it'll cause a mass defection in the latino vote. They are thinking of a huge lock on the future majority of this country and both parties are salivating over them. Scheuer though made a spurious argument about the National Guard being unarmed, because they aren't law enforcement officers and they don't need a repeat of what happened in the early 90's where these soldiers ended up shooting folks. Having soldiers on the border is supposed to free border guards to make arrests, not the other way around.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

You say luna, I say tic.

 

[Hot Mega]

Having soldiers on the border is supposed to free border guards to make arrests, not the other way around.

Either way, it's a win-win no? If the National Guard can free up Border Patrol from the more mundane, menial tasks which hamstring their efforts, they (BP) should be more effective with the heavy lifting aspects of their duties.

All this without expanding that organization....I'd say it sounds like a pretty solid improvement over ANYTHING we've don't at our southern border since 9/11 which has largely been nothing.:glugglug:

 

[Facetious]

W/out watching the unknown sourced vid - Maybe we do need another bitch slap as a reminder that the world around us is, in fact, inherently violent and we should not be cutting military budgetary expenditures.

I know of members on the ''far'' left that, in their own circles, were wishing that we got tagged while 'w' was at the helm.

It's all partisan politiks at the end of each day, I'm 'fraid

 

[Hot Mega]

W/out watching the unknown sourced vid - Maybe we do need another bitch slap as a reminder that the world around us is, in fact, inherently violent and we should not be cutting military budgetary expenditures.

In sum you're saying maybe Americans need to die in order that our military budget not be cut?

 

[titsrock]

In sum you're saying maybe Americans need to die in order that our military budget not be cut?

Yes, that's pretty much what that means and he has no links to credible "Lefty" sources, just speculation. It's like me saying--I heard that there were high fives all around the Faux News HQ when that abortion doctor was shot. Same kind of statement.

The world was a safer place before George W took office. We need to do everything OPPOSITE of Dubya in order to return to the safer place.

Cutting the Defense Dept Budget--given the bankrupt state of the nation--makes perfect sense.

 

[tiger1977]

Yes, that's pretty much what that means and he has no links to credible "Lefty" sources, just speculation. It's like me saying--I heard that there were high fives all around the Faux News HQ when that abortion doctor was shot. Same kind of statement.

The world was a safer place before George W took office. We need to do everything OPPOSITE of Dubya in order to return to the safer place.

Cutting the Defense Dept Budget--given the bankrupt state of the nation--makes perfect sense.

The world was safer??? Do you not remember the bombing of the USS Cole in the Persian Gulf? And 911 wasn't planned in the 8 months W was in office before it happened. Also, Eastern Europe was a debacle with the Slovic states. So yeah, W made the world much more dangerous!!

 

[chrsur]

Ya'll do realize that the Obama plan would Seek 1,500 National Guard Volunteers to protect the border, so he is seeking volunteers.

 

[Hot Mega]

Ya'll do realize that the Obama plan would Seek 1,500 National Guard Volunteers to protect the border, so he is seeking volunteers.

Everyone who serves in the US military is a "volunteer".:2 cents:

 

[titsrock]

The world was safer??? Do you not remember the bombing of the USS Cole in the Persian Gulf? And 911 wasn't planned in the 8 months W was in office before it happened. Also, Eastern Europe was a debacle with the Slovic states. So yeah, W made the world much more dangerous!!

None of the things you mentioned require now nor then U.S. Military intervention.:dunno: Since we haven't been able to capture/kill Osama in the 8 years since 9/11, perhaps a different response than invading Iraq was needed? Invading Iraq and Afghanistan means we're on the hook for hundreds of billions in reconstruction costs for those nations. I've got better things to do with my billions than hand them to Iraq and Afghanis? Perhaps a different military strategy to capture/kill Osama was needed afterall... :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

None of the things you mentioned require now nor then U.S. Military intervention.:dunno: Since we haven't been able to capture/kill Osama in the 8 years since 9/11, perhaps a different response than invading Iraq was needed? Invading Iraq and Afghanistan means we're on the hook for hundreds of billions in reconstruction costs for those nations. I've got better things to do with my billions than hand them to Iraq and Afghanis? Perhaps a different military strategy to capture/kill Osama was needed afterall... :dunno:

Moreover, the dynamics were much different as those attacks materialized. Certainly neither gave America the precedence, domestic or international will to invade nations for them. Even if it did, AQ wasn't collected primarily in one place as they were during 9/11.

They can't have it both ways....either Bush didn't take terrorism seriously as they claimed Clinton didn't prior to 9/11 or he did and ignore clear evidence of impending attacks.

 

[24788]

Why would someone hope for a terrorist attack!?

 

[Facial_King]

He is a stupid fuckin doom sayer why does anyone post this shit. IGNORE GLENN BECK. he'll go away

While I'm sure plenty of smart, reasonable people are ignoring him, a disturbing number appear to be tuning into his shit-fest:
3rd-rated cable "news" program, 2.2 million viewers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/28/fox-news-claims-top-11-ca_n_192514.html

I was watching that, and it's true neither cares about the border. Neither is willing to touch it because for some reason they think it'll cause a mass defection in the latino vote. They are thinking of a huge lock on the future majority of this country and both parties are salivating over them. Scheuer though made a spurious argument about the National Guard being unarmed, because they aren't law enforcement officers and they don't need a repeat of what happened in the early 90's where these soldiers ended up shooting folks. Having soldiers on the border is supposed to free border guards to make arrests, not the other way around.

Meanwhile, nobody cares about the Irish illegals who come in via Boston, or the Polish illegals who come in via Chicago. Wonder why? :dunno:

The border issue is becoming increasingly irrelevant anyway, as more Mexicans are leaving the U.S. than entering:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=7740466

W/out watching the unknown sourced vid - Maybe we do need another bitch slap as a reminder that the world around us is, in fact, inherently violent and we should not be cutting military budgetary expenditures.

I know of members on the ''far'' left that, in their own circles, were wishing that we got tagged while 'w' was at the helm.

It's all partisan politiks at the end of each day, I'm 'fraid

1. Maybe a nuclear war would be the best reminder of just how "inherently violent" the world is. (The problem is with those who seem to LIKE it that way, and encourage it to continue, even when it's avoidable...) Saying we "need" another terrorist attack (so 9/11 was the equivalent to a "bitch slap"???) is truly, truly SICK.
2. Um.... we DID get "tagged" while W was at the helm. (Remember 9/11?)

Why would someone hope for a terrorist attack!?

See comment #9 above, for starters...

 

[STDiva]

Why would someone hope for a terrorist attack!?

Because it is our only Chance. Obviously.

 

[Facial_King]

The world was safer??? Do you not remember the bombing of the USS Cole in the Persian Gulf? And 911 wasn't planned in the 8 months W was in office before it happened. Also, Eastern Europe was a debacle with the Slovic states. So yeah, W made the world much more dangerous!!

- I don't really see how that 2nd point (which surely isn't even true -do you think they ONLY did planning during the Clinton years and just relaxed between W's inauguration and 9/11 itself??) helps to make your case...

- Where are the "Slovic" states?

:dunno: