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vanlee1
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It truly speaks of the shows popularity.16,397,492 views !!!!!
Slight amusement here - non-Thrones viewer describes what he thinks is going on in the photos.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...e-of-thrones-photos-explained-by-someone.html
Also some S4 shots in which we see The Red Viper and his paramour, Ellaria Sand, and I believe the new actor for Daario.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...e-of-thrones-photos-explained-by-someone.html
Also some S4 shots in which we see The Red Viper and his paramour, Ellaria Sand, and I believe the new actor for Daario.
vanlee1
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The new season premiers in just two months!
Does the TV show follow the books well for the most part?
So far, for the most part it does. There are a lot of subtle differences, mostly for casting/filming reasons, often taking elements of a character and adding them to another character so they only have to cast one actor rather than two. Also a lot of the characters are made older to make it more believable and/or avoid having to film an underage character having sex. Numerous scenes occur in the show where two characters have conversations that never happened in the book. There are however some really annoying major differences, which have been posted about in this thread. By me, as it happens. Here's what I can think of so far :
(spoilers if you haven't watched all 3 series of the show)
- A GAME OF THRONES / S1
- Ages - in the books, in the beginning of the story Robb and Jon are about 16, Dany 13, Bran 6 and Rickon 3 (IIRC). Theon I believe is meant to be 19.
- In the books the undead are called "The Others" but that was changed to "White Walkers" because apparently there were "The Others" in Lost.
- In the books the Targaryens have fully silver hair and purple eyes. They tried purple contacts for the show but the actors had difficulty with them.
- Robert Baratheon is a tall, imposing man in the book, Mark Addy who they cast is not.
- In the books Littlefinger is master of coin but doesn't run the brothel or have anything to do with whores at all, they changed that to make it easier.
- In the book Catelyn actually persuades Ned it is his duty to become Hand, in the show she was trying to talk him out of it.
- The character of Ros is not in the books at all, she was created to provide extra scenes to add depth to other characters backstory or for characters to say things that the book merely had them thinking.
- In the book, Renly and Loras being gay lovers is hinted at by other characters but never made explicit.
- The scene where Dany and Drogo "consumate the marriage" is much gentler and less rapey in the book.
- Jorah Mormont is black haired and hirsute in the book. Dany thinks of him as her "bear."
- In the book Lisa Arryn's son is called Robert but the show changed it to Robin to avoid dumb viewers getting him confused with Robert Baratheon (WTF).
- In the book Dany has two Dothraki handmaidens, Irri and Jhiqui. In the show Jhiqui only appears in one scene and has one line ("it is known") and they have Irri add anything important that either of them did/said in the book. I also don't think it was Mago that Khal Drogo killed in the book.
- In the show they haven't named Dany's dragons yet, they are named immediately in the book - Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal (I think) for the three men she has lost.
- A CLASH OF KINGS / S2
- The Greatjon - present in S1 but not in S2 or S3 - was a major character and essentially Robb's right hand man throughout in the books. His son The Smalljon, and Dacey Mormont (niece, IIRC of Lord Commander Mormont) were also important members of Robb's party who were never introduced in the show so we didn't get the poignancy of their deaths in the Red Wedding.
- In the book Theon's sister is called Asha but the show renamed her Yara so the dumb viewers wouldn't get her confused with the wildling Osha (WTF).
- There are several changes to Arya's story between leaving Kings Landing and parting ways with Jaqen. Mostly the number of Lannister bannermen that piss her off and whose names she repeats to herself before she falls asleep. It's also Roose Bolton she serves at Harrenhal in the book - she never meets Lord Tywin.
- Dany's story in Qarth is almost completely different. In the book Doreah dies in the Red Waste rather than betraying Dany, and Irri (and Jhiqui) doesn't die at all. Most annoyingly Dany has not been warned of the three betrayals that will await her - once for gold, once for blood and once for love.
- Rakharo was not killed in the Red Waste in the book and the character of Kovarro doesn't exist.
- Stannis and Melisandre having a sexual relationship is merely a rumour in the book, in the show it was made explicit.
- It isn't Bronn that Tyrion installs as new Lord Commander of the City Watch in the book ; they just did that for convenience.
- In the book Robb's envoy to the Lannisters, Jaime's cousing, is Ser Cleos Frey. The show never makes it clear some Freys married into the Lannister family to avoid confusing dumb viewers who are just meant to think "Freys = Robb's side." The character of Ser Alton Lannister was made up for the show.
- Theon's story at Winterfell and encounter with Ramsay Bolton is completely different in the book. - http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?502200-Game-of-Thrones&p=7676799&viewfull=1#post7676799
- Robb's romance/wedding story is completely different in the book. His wife's background and how they met was completely different and several things that were changed made Robb less sympathetic and more of a stupid twat that got what he deserved :
- In the book, Robb was injured taking the crag and nursed back to health by the Westerling girl. That intimacy was always bound to blossom into something else. Furthermore she consoled him when he found out his brothers "had been killed" which in the show, he didn't know when he started knobbing Talisa. Jeyne (his lover in the book) was his shoulder to cry on, things got out of hand, then he did the honourable thing and married her immediately because it's what his father would have done. In the show, it was nothing more than him not being able to keep his cock in his pants when he met a pretty girl. Dick.
- In the book, Robb just gets back to Riverrun and shocks Cat by going "Umm... mother, this is my wife." It all happens away from the characters POV chapters, then Robb tells the story of what happened. In the show Catelyn caught him looking at the nurse bint and warned him once, then warned him again before he married her. You had fair warning, you twat. Book Robb = young, naive, tragic. TV Robb = horny, reckless, tosser. - In the book in addition to the wildfire tactic Tyrion had a massive chain constructed that sat out of sight in Blackwater Bay that tore into the hulls of many of Stannis' ships.
- STEEL AND SNOW (and part of Blood And Gold) / S3
- The Blackfish did not go to the Red Wedding, he stayed at Riverrun. The show writes his survival that he left the hall to take a piss before the doors were locked and the slaughter began.
- Robb's wife did not go to the Red Wedding and certainly was never pregnant.
- The line by Roose Bolton of "The Lannisters send their regards" just before he kills Robb was changed from "Jaime Lannister sends his regards" in the book. This is really annoying for reasons that may become clear in S4. People dismiss that as a minor change, but it really hacked me off.
- I'm quite sure there wasn't any interaction between Shae and Sansa in the book.
- Daario Naharis has blue hair and a beard in the book. As before, many subtle changes to Dany's arc. Bran's too.
- Melisandre never met Arya in the book. Her line of "we will meet again" to Arya in the show confused me greatly, as by the end of the 5th book, they haven't met at all.
- In the book, the bastard of Roberts that Stannis and Melisandre want to use the blood of is Edrick Storm, a boy native to Storm's End. The show crossed his story with that of Gendry/The Bull to avoid more casting that could be avoided. Gendry never met the Red Priestess, he certainly didn't doink her.
- In the book Grey Wind was not merely shot dead in his pen during the Red Wedding, he escaped and killed several Frey men (ripping one's arm clean off) before he was finally killed with many arrows in him.
- In the book, when Jaime and Cersei had their reunion, they fucked instantly. Twincest, ROFL.
That's all I can think of for now. It would have been easier to look it up on the ASOIAF wikia, but that was more fun.
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The Mountain, Gregor Clegane has been recast (again).
Thor Bjornsson
According to wikipedia, he stands at 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) weighing 190 kg (419 lb)!
Thor Bjornsson
According to wikipedia, he stands at 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) weighing 190 kg (419 lb)!
freeones_regina
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Nice overview, the thing that annoyed me the most last season were the Theon torture scenes since you don't get to find until book 5 I think that he's still alive and being kept as a pet/slave.
Can't wait for next season though!
Yeah. Bolton gave Cat the skin from his thumb when they were on their way to the Red Wedding so we knew he'd been flayed but I suppose there was no guarantee he was still alive. That arc was completely back to front, how instead of knowing who had taken Greyjoy from the moment Ramsay had his big reveal ("Ramsay. My wife called me Snow, but I say Bolton") but the mutilation being implicit/rumours and hearsay in other characters' POV chapters - to in the show, where we didn't know who it was (though there were ample clues in S2 that it was Bolton's bastard coming to retake Winterfell) but Dan and Dave filming his mistreatment of Theon in all it's torture porn glory. Oh well.
"Reek. It rhymes with sneak."
We should start with some quotes from GoT while everyone is waiting for the upcoming season. One of my favorites:
"The Lord of Light wants his enemies burnt. The Drowned God wants his enemies drowned. Why are all the gods such vicious cunts? Where is the god of tits and wine?" -- Tyrion Lannister
With pleasure.
S1
Jaime : "Robert will choose a new hand of the kingdom to do his job while he's out fucking boars or hunting whores... or is it the other way around?"
Yoren : "What about you, milord. What's the strangest thing you've eaten?"
Tyrion : "Do Dornish girls count?"
Robb : "Any man of the Night's Watch is welcome at Winterfell."
Tyrion : "Any man of the Night's Watch but not I, eh boy?"
Robb : "I'm not your boy, Lannister."
Tywin : "You spend too much time worrying what other people think of you."
Jaime : "I could care less what anyone thinks of me."
Tywin : "That's what you want people to think of you."
Tyrion (to Bronn) : "Though I would treasure your friendship, I'm mainly interested in your facility with murder."
Jaime : "If your gods are real, if they're just, why is the world so full of injustice?"
Cat : "Because of men like you."
Jaime : "There are no men like me. Only me."
S2
Matthos : "And I declare on the honour of my House that my beloved brother Robert left.."
Stannis : "He wasn't my beloved brother. I didn't love him. He didn't love me."
Davos : "A harmless courtesy, Your Grace."
Stannis : "A lie. Take it out."
Davos : "If not Renly Your Grace, join forces with Robb Stark."
Stannis : "Who'd steal the northern half of my kingdom? I've always served thieves according to their deserts, as you well know Ser Davos."
Ser Meryn : "No one threatens His Grace in the presence of the Kingsguard!"
Tyrion : "I'm not threatening the king, Ser. I'm educating my nephew. Bronn, the next time Ser Meryn speaks, kill him. That was a threat. See the difference?"
Jaime (to Cat, being dragged off in chains) : "You've become a real she-wolf in your later years. There's not much fish left in you!"
Yara : "Are you the dumbest cunt alive?"
Theon : "Don't call me a.."
Yara : "A cunt. A dumb cunt who killed the only two Starks in Winterfell."
S3
Jaime : "Ah, Renly. Really? He wasn't fit to rule over anything more important than a 12-course meal."
Un-named Karstark man : "Mercy, sire! I didn't kill anyone. I only watched for the guards."
Robb : "This one was only the watcher. Hang him last so he can watch the others die."
Brienne : "Why didn't you tell Lord Stark?"
Lannister : "Stark? You think the honorable Ned Stark wanted to hear my side? He judged me guilty the moment he set eyes on me. By what right does the wolf judge the lion? By what right?" (collapses in the bath)
Brienne : "Help! Help! The Kingslayer!"
Jaime (weakly) : "Jaime. My name is Jaime."
Jaime (to Roose Bolton) : "Give my regards to Robb Stark"
Cersei : "Do you know where House Reyne is now?"
Margaery : "Gone."
Cersei : "Gone? A gentle word. Why not say slaughtered?"
Tywin : "Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner."
If it isn't obvious, my favourite character is Jaime. I hope my favourite Jaime moment from the book makes it into the show. It's minor in the big scheme of things, but sums up his redemption quite nicely.
vanlee1
IMAGINE
As would I, as would I :yummie:
Lacey Black
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Lacey Black
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Personally, Miss Lacey I would rather jump at the chance to "take the Black" just as Jon did.
I'm sorry, I'll behave.
:1orglaugh I see no reason to behave and no reason why Miss Clarke and myself can't both be naked more often!
vanlee1
IMAGINE
You have the full support of the people and the army on this matter :yesyes:
BCT
Pucker Up Butter Cup.
I can't help but picture what it would be like if Joffrey was Ramsay's bitch instead?
