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Game of Thrones
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Do any of the characters in this tale truly achieve redemption? I'm really asking, because I haven't read the books.
However, it seems to me all the characters are pretty flawed. For one thing, it's virtually a perpetual state of war, and there's that whole "good & evil on both sides" thing going on, which makes it awfully hard for any of them to be redeemed. But more than this, their flaws are what make the characters so interesting, so redemption doesn't seem very likely lest the story turn boring.
Just thinking out loud.
Well, like Martin himself has said, the battle of good vs evil does not take place between an army in white and an army in black, but inside the human heart. Jaime has always been single-minded in that he's only ever done what he thought was best for those that he loved, so he thought that made him a good man. Increasingly he's learning there is more to it than that, just look at him returning to Harrenhal for Brienne. He's been through a world of shit (literally and figuratively) and right now, he's a completely different man to the one that squared off with Ned Stark and stabbed Jory Cassell through the eye outside Baelish's brothel.
I don't want to say much else for fear of spoilers, but twincest aside, Jaime's getting a pretty decent moral compass on him.
Yeah, I get that. But I can't help thinking of Jaime as the scorpion who stings the frog and says, "I can't help it. It's my nature."
Jaime's getting some valuable moral lessons, but let's not forget he was intimately involved in the slaughter at the Red Wedding at basically the same time he went back for Brienne.
I don't know what's coming in S4, but my sense is he hasn't changed at all. He feels things more now than he did before, but in the end he'll still stab an innocent man in the eye if it suits him. Makes him a more complex and interesting character, but doesn't exactly feel like redemption to me. I'll be interested to see if it plays that way in the series.
Jaime's getting some valuable moral lessons, but let's not forget he was intimately involved in the slaughter at the Red Wedding at basically the same time he went back for Brienne.
I don't know what's coming in S4, but my sense is he hasn't changed at all. He feels things more now than he did before, but in the end he'll still stab an innocent man in the eye if it suits him. Makes him a more complex and interesting character, but doesn't exactly feel like redemption to me. I'll be interested to see if it plays that way in the series.
I want to see some kind of redemption for Jaime, but he did push Bran out a window. That's a pretty big thing to get past.
He was neither involved nor aware of that plot. It was 100% daddy.
No. All he knew was that Bolton kept him from harm because he'd be paid handsomely by Lord Tywin upon his safe return to King's Landing. He told Bolton "So long as you give mine to Robb Stark" because - no shit - Robb was his enemy. Bolton's line to Robb before killing him of "The Lannisters send their regards" was changed from "Jaime Lannister sends his regards" from the book for the very reason that the TV producers did not want to give the false impression that Jaime was somehow involved with the Red Wedding, which he was not. There is plenty about Jaime's reaction to the Red Wedding in Crows, which I will not ruin for non-readers now ; but sufficient to say, he wasn't in on it.
Big Poppa Pump
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That trailer looks sick. I think HBO will do the books justice like they have so far.
I actually expect the TV series to improve on the slog that was A Feast For Crows. Hopefully by doing the 2/3 series that will comprise Crows/Dance in chronological order across the whole cast. Crows suffered badly from only having half the characters. Mostly due to the better characters being in Dance. They wouldn't dream of doing a series without the three "big guns" missing from the fourth book.
Okie dokie then. I'll wait to see how it plays out.
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trollstein
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emily clarke is the best chick there
vanlee1
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Me too, maybe they are big enough for someone to ride them?
