Game of Thrones

[meesterperfect]

Vary's is playing with fire literally.
He knows Jon would make a better King for The Realm.
Jon could unite all the territorys as could Sansa if she were Queen.
Sansa even more so than Jon because she has family in The Vale and The Riverlands plus she has no Targaryan blood.

With Dany as Queen there will always be problems due mainly to her bloodline.
Varys knows this however he has to be careful. He can't let anybody know he knows Jons secret because it came from Sansa through Tyrion to him. He's going to have to manipulate things in a way in which Jon or Sansa "volunteer" to take the Throne as if there were no other choice.
You either win it or you die.
So if Dany finds out what Varys is thinking and she kills him for it she may as well pack it up because no one is going to condone that. Tyrion will abandon her, Jorah is dead, The Dothraki are all but wiped out, Missandrei is dead, and Grey Worm is her only real ally now and who knows where his heads at at this point.

Therefore Varys , to get what he wants which is what is best for the realm, may actually have to sacrifice himself to accomplish that.

 

[meesterperfect]

He did and he was right.

 

[afterlights]

Okay, I was starting to be a downer about this season, but, holy shit!, did this one make up for it. DVR is a godsend, because I'm definitely going to watch this a couple more times. A few dead men walking into the next episode, with a healthy body count in this one. I'm really not at all sure how it's going to play out now, and I like that.

 

[meesterperfect]

Okay, I was starting to be a downer about this season, but, holy shit!, did this one make up for it. DVR is a godsend, because I'm definitely going to watch this a couple more times. A few dead men walking into the next episode, with a healthy body count in this one. I'm really not at all sure how it's going to play out now, and I like that.

Really? Visually it was cool but SPOILERS I thought it was bad writing, bad story and disappointing.
I mean after 8 seasons all of a sudden Dany is going to go mental at the exact moment she won. I mean she won. The Lannister army surrendered and the Golden company was killed. At that point all she has to do is go find Ceirsi and climb the stairs to the Iron Throne.
Mission accomplished.

Instead she freaking destroys the entire castle including the Iron Throne and burns every living thing in Kings Landing?
Totally unrealistic.
Also Cersei...........Rocks? 8 seasons of eviliness and we get rocks?
Oh well thats what the people who run hollywood do. Make their money off of us then stick it up our ass at the end.
Wish someone would take a dragon to that place.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Really? Visually it was cool but SPOILERS I thought it was bad writing, bad story and disappointing.
I mean after 8 seasons all of a sudden Dany is going to go mental at the exact moment she won. I mean she won. The Lannister army surrendered and the Golden company was killed. At that point all she has to do is go find Ceirsi and climb the stairs to the Iron Throne.
Mission accomplished.

Instead she freaking destroys the entire castle including the Iron Throne and burns every living thing in Kings Landing?
Totally unrealistic.
Also Cersei...........Rocks? 8 seasons of eviliness and we get rocks?
Oh well thats what the people who run hollywood do. Make their money off of us then stick it up our ass at the end.
Wish someone would take a dragon to that place.

I agree with this 100%. That's all I have to say.

 

[freeones_regina]

I disagree, this whole season you could see it coming, even in previous seasons there was a build up to this outcome (it helps if you have done a few re-watches). I think if you haven't noticed it you have not been paying attention, specifically this season so far.

She felt like she had not won anything, was betrayed by several people whom she trusted. Gave up her own goals and sacrificed large parts of her army to help others and in return got no respect or credit for it.
And she has been burning people from the start whenever they did something she disagreed with. Sure, most of the times from our point of view, she was burning 'Bad Guys', so it was sort of acceptable. But in her point of view, Kingslanding and everyone living there represents 'Bad Guys' too.

 

[xfire]

I'm not an avid GOT fan, but I keep up peripherally, and yeah, I won't be surprised if she turns every Lannister into ash.

 

[Luxman]

I've only seen the first episode.

Maybe I'll watch the entire series in a few years when all the overrated hype is over.

 

[meesterperfect]

I've only seen the first episode.

Maybe I'll watch the entire series in a few years when all the overrated hype is over.

Start now. I insist you begin watching season 1 episode 1 as soon as possible. Today if you can. In the meantime stop reading this thread.

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[Supafly]

 

[afterlights]

I mean after 8 seasons all of a sudden Dany is going to go mental at the exact moment she won.

Oh, I can understand, and emphasize with, those that didn't like this turn. But, retrospectively, to me, I think we'd been leading up to this. Losing Dorne, Highgarden, the Iron Fleet. Cersei had been checking every move Dany had made. Two of her children. Several key advisors.

Especially, Jon's claim to the throne hanging over her head. Remember her vision from the House of the Undying. (That's the name, right? With the creepy wizards?)

Also Cersei...........Rocks? 8 seasons of eviliness and we get rocks?

I would have love to have seen Dany burn her, definitely, but this is also the same show that gave us the Red Wedding. Even Khal Drogo met an ignobale end.

 

[UnderBro]

I thought the finale was okay. Everyone (except for Dany) turns out alright at the end. I'm also curious what's west of Westeros.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Bran is the most evil motherfucker in the entire show. He manipulated everyone and set them all up, just so he could become King. “Why do you think I came all this way?" - Bran. Yeah, fuck that guy.

 

[UnderBro]

Bran is the most evil motherfucker in the entire show. He manipulated everyone and set them all up, just so he could become King. “Why do you think I came all this way?" - Bran. Yeah, fuck that guy.

In other words, Bran was playing the game of thrones the best. He let things play out knowing the outcome of almost everything and didn't make anyone feel like they were being manipulated since they all made the choice themselves for their actions which Dany say she didn't want anyone to have a choice.

 

[D-rock]

As somebody that's been a huge fan of high fantasy literature my entire life am I the only similar person that didn't like this television show, doesn't like the Song of Ice and Fire books or fictional setting, and thought it was very overrated?

At some level it's irritating to me that for a generation of people this is going to be the defining fantasy setting, or at least the one that's highest after the Middle Earth books, in their minds when they think of the genre instead of a dozen other major ones that are much better. I wonder what would have happened if all the time and resources that went into Game of Thrones went into making a television show based on one of the other ones instead.

 

[xfire]

Jon snow is a fucking coward, anyone that disagrees with that is a douche.

 

[UnderBro]

As somebody that's been a huge fan of high fantasy literature my entire life am I the only similar person that didn't like this television show, doesn't like the Song of Ice and Fire books or fictional setting, and thought it was very overrated?

At some level it's irritating to me that for a generation of people this is going to be the defining fantasy setting, or at least the one that's highest after the Middle Earth books, in their minds when they think of the genre instead of a dozen other major ones that are much better. I wonder what would have happened if all the time and resources that went into Game of Thrones went into making a television show based on one of the other ones instead.

I think other fantasy genre authors need better PR if they want their work to be a breakthrough hit in mass media.

Jon snow is a fucking coward, anyone that disagrees with that is a douche.

How is Jon Snow a coward? Didn't he fought in many battles for the good of mankind even when he got killed in the process at one point. Jon is far from being a coward. He's a hero.

 

[xfire]

How is Jon Snow a coward? Didn't he fought in many battles for the good of mankind even when he got killed in the process at one point. Jon is far from being a coward. He's a hero.

Stabbed a woman that was in love with him without giving her the chance to defend herself, that's pretty chickenshit, brah.

 

[UnderBro]

Stabbed a woman that was in love with him without giving her the chance to defend herself, that's pretty chickenshit, brah.

Jon was the only one who could get close to Dany without suspicion. He had to kill her because she was went mad and wanted world domination in which she's the only one who decides what's good. It was a quick death anyway.

 

[xfire]

Jon was the only one who could get close to Dany without suspicion. He had to kill her because she was went mad and wanted world domination in which she's the only one who decides what's good. It was a quick death anyway.

That's a bullshit bandwagon reply, it's like you forgot everything she went through, everything she had done, and she was right to continue killing Cersie's soldiers, they freely choose which side to take. Jon Snow deciding appointed himself judge and executioner of Daenerys made him, at best, morally equivalent. And he helped put Bran-"I don't want to be king", also Bran- "Why do you think I came all this way?" on the throne, just keeping the wheel turning.