Football vs American Football

I won't bother explaining why the play stops. But I will say that the statement in bold couldn't be further from the truth. There are NFL players that are unmatched athletically. (Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson, Terrel Owens, Vernon Davis, etc.)

BTW, both sports can be boring at times. And both can be extremely entertaining. Depends on the situation.

0-0 game featuring Charlton vs. Derby = Boring
Turkey stuns Czech Republic, 3-2 in Euro 2008 = Entertaining

NFL Preseason Game = Boring
Superbowl 2008 Giants vs. Patriots = FUCKING AMAZING

I absolutely agree. They can both be good and bad depending on the game. I enjoy both.
 
I saw this programme a while ago that had an English rugby player go to America and play football. The padding made him pretty much invincible and he inihilated everyone.

If was was American football VS Rugby, there would be one very clear winner.

Right, but the thread isn't rugby vs. football, it's soccer vs. football. ;)
 
Football for me.
There's just no denying its place as the beautiful game. :D

So many superstars, so many competitions, so much controversy, rivalry and drama. It's about the clubs, the deals and the allegiances. Knowing there's a blank canvas; and that anything is possible on game day. The glorious victories and the heartbreaking losses that you share with the team and every other fan around the world. Passion for Football is shared by so many cultures, which further underscores the fact that Football is the world game. It's the whole atmosphere about Football that knocks all others to pieces.

American Football is just too boring to watch, and what a bunch of fools tip-toeing around with all that padding on. Fuck that shit.

tip-toeing? How about a 4.6 speed 220 # running back running into a 4.7 speed 270 # linebacker. They wear pads for a reason...

Fools? Boring? Too each there own I guess... A very poor opinion in my book.

I respect Football (soccer) as a game, but I think American Football is the next level in strength, conditioning, speed, stamina and sports related intelligence.
 
You live in Detroit right? What do they sell Lions season tickets for these days? A few aluminum cans? The change underneath your couch cushions? A few bills of Monopoly money?

Yes, 2 beer cans!, a smelly sock and a atari 2600 football game.

The Detroit Lions ownership keeps the Atari game, so they can pick up pointers and watch real football at the end of the season. Actually they raised prices on my tickets to $90! Very hard to understand...

GO LIONS!
 
tip-toeing? How about a 4.6 speed 220 # running back running into a 4.7 speed 270 # linebacker. They wear pads for a reason...

Fools? Boring? Too each there own I guess... A very poor opinion in my book.

I respect Football (soccer) as a game, but I think American Football is the next level in strength, conditioning, speed, stamina and sports related intelligence.

Ever watched rugby league/union? Same As Your American football, but no pads, and most of these guys' day jobs are as solicitors or accountants (and some Policemen). Now that's an intelligent game :nanner:

As for AF v F (S) I'd have to say Footie, cause they don't stop every 2 minutes to have a cuddle. Except when they score....too much man handling in male team sports for my liking :D
 
As a "reformed" American Sports Fan--someone who used to love the NFL and College Football above everything else but now favors SOCCER/WORLD FOOTBALL above NFL, even I won't go far to call the Professional American Football player a terrible athlete. Randy Moss, Reggie Bush, Adrian Peterson, Champ Bailey, Jeremy Shockey...if these athletes picked up a soccer ball at age 10 instead of a Nerf football...America would PWN! World Football. We are a nation blessed with amazing athletes.

I did not play American Football growing up. I wanted to. My parents thought I was too small and would get hurt. I played soccer instead. However I know many, many high school "heroes" and former Div 1 football players and they all say that true RUGBY is a far more physically taxing sport than American Tackle Football.

My problem with American Tackle Football is there is no "free-flowing" play. Everything is scripted and usually only good or bad things happen if some player fucks up and forgets his responsibility on a play. That's kind of a lame concept for a sport, if you think about it. How do you know if a player TRULY is talented if he already knows what he's going to do before he has to do it? Isn't it more accurate test of skill, like soccer, to see who the players are when they have to perform ON THE SPOT, in the middle of the action, rather than one team controlling when a play begins and ends?

There is much, much more running in soccer than American football. That's quite obvious just from watching. You don't have to combine strength and speed in Soccer like you do in American Football. The most running of any organized sport I've watched or played is Indoor Soccer. If you've never played that before, you'll be puking your guts out before the first half ends...

For any fan of the NFL today to bitch and moan about "diving" in Soccer...better shut your yaps with all the instant replays, missed calls, holding, and dropped passes that WRs try to "pretend" they caught...Diving is annoying, for sure, but it's a part of the game and soccer allows for one team to get a little retaliation back to the diver with a nice hard foul too....outlaw justice baby. Soccer has it.
 

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I like Canadian football, myself. Speed over size. Soccer is ok, I really enjoyed the Euro Cup a couple months ago. Never watch the FIFA, though. I didn't watch much NFL last year, since my team sucked balls.
 
As a "reformed" American Sports Fan--someone who used to love the NFL and College Football above everything else but now favors SOCCER/WORLD FOOTBALL above NFL,

My problem with American Tackle Football is there is no "free-flowing" play. Everything is scripted and usually only good or bad things happen if some player fucks up and forgets his responsibility on a play. That's kind of a lame concept for a sport, if you think about it. How do you know if a player TRULY is talented if he already knows what he's going to do before he has to do it? Isn't it more accurate test of skill, like soccer, to see who the players are when they have to perform ON THE SPOT, in the middle of the action, rather than one team controlling when a play begins and ends?

I'm calling bullshit on this one. How the hell can you say you used to love football and then say that it's scripted and that all the players know where they're going? Yes, plays are called, but have you ever watched Barry Sanders get caught behind the line, break a few tackles, juke a few players and then go for 70-yards, or what about a Devin Hester punt return? That is all speed, agility, vision and skill, my friend. You can't teach that.
 
I'm calling bullshit on this one. How the hell can you say you used to love football and then say that it's scripted and that all the players know where they're going? Yes, plays are called, but have you ever watched Barry Sanders get caught behind the line, break a few tackles, juke a few players and then go for 70-yards, or what about a Devin Hester punt return? That is all speed, agility, vision and skill, my friend. You can't teach that.

If only Barry Sanders was the norm for NFL runningbacks--you're right--it'd be a hell of a lot more exciting. Sadly, he's a rare Hall of Famer, rather than a typical NFL RB (not Hall of Famer). It is too scripted, Spartan. QBs don't even call plays anymore. They are told the play and a backup play in case the Defense is in the "wrong" defense...:rolleyes: :sleep: C'mon...put the game calling into the QB and let's see who really is an "on field General" and not just a trained monkey:thefinger

NFL football wasn't always like this. Money and Corporate sponsorship and Television dictate a lot of the modern rule changes which are contributing to a dumbing-down, boring product.

Soccer has had a hard time breaking into U.S. television because of the lack of commercial opportunities. Broadcast networks can't cram their commercials in like they can throughout NFL games (the 2 minute warning, for example, nothing more than GUARANTEEING EYEBALLS GLUED TO THE SCREEN FOR ADS!!:rolleyes:)

Soccer rewards the informed viewer. The soccer announcers don't bother telling every little thing that happens. They let you soak in the action. How different than, say, when Devin Hester returns a kick and the announcers SCREAMS -- "HE'S AT THE 50! THE 45! THE 40! THE 35! THE 30! THE 25! THE 20! THE 15! THE 10! THE 5! TOUCHDOWN!!!!)

Don't you want to say--NO SHIT I can see him running??? I don't need that screamed out for me! Let it happen on screen...let me soak in the crowd noise too!
 
I guess Fox is no longer a member of the board? I can't find the World Football thread he started to discuss the upcoming premiership season...Did our badboy rock star get a ban or something?

Maybe I can't find the thread or maybe someone should start a new one??
 
Soccer has had a hard time breaking into U.S. television because of the lack of commercial opportunities. Broadcast networks can't cram their commercials in like they can throughout NFL games (the 2 minute warning, for example, nothing more than GUARANTEEING EYEBALLS GLUED TO THE SCREEN FOR ADS!!:rolleyes:)

That may be part of it. But I think, mostly, American sports fans demand the best. Our top sports leagues have the best talent the world has to offer. However, this is not true when it comes to football(soccer). MLS is like a retirement league for washed up footballers. It isn't even in the top 5 most talented leagues in the world.

Americans aren't going to ever give a shit about the low stakes, low talent MLS. And we rarely get to see any of the top flight euro club competiton. We can see a little Premiership coverage and the Champions League, but that's it.

So don't expect football(soccer) to catch on as a spectator sport here in America anytime soon. The only way it will happen is if MLS owners decide to step up and start paying the worlds top talent a shit load of money to come play here (David Beckham doesn't count).
 
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