Football vs American Football
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What does Dio have to do with sports? :wtf:
I won't bother explaining why the play stops. But I will say that the statement in bold couldn't be further from the truth. There are NFL players that are unmatched athletically. (Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson, Terrel Owens, Vernon Davis, etc.)
BTW, both sports can be boring at times. And both can be extremely entertaining. Depends on the situation.
0-0 game featuring Charlton vs. Derby = Boring
Turkey stuns Czech Republic, 3-2 in Euro 2008 = Entertaining
NFL Preseason Game = Boring
Superbowl 2008 Giants vs. Patriots = FUCKING AMAZING
I can't believe how many times we have already had this debate on this board.
I like American Football a little bit better than soccer. I dislike soccer mostly because of the reasons that others have mentioned. Endless passing, endless faking of injuries, I think it is boring to watch. But I do find soccer fun to play. If you're actually in it, it is much more exciting. I would still rather play American football though.
But it is really a moot point for me, since baseball generally gets almost all my attention.
I like American Football a little bit better than soccer. I dislike soccer mostly because of the reasons that others have mentioned. Endless passing, endless faking of injuries, I think it is boring to watch. But I do find soccer fun to play. If you're actually in it, it is much more exciting. I would still rather play American football though.
But it is really a moot point for me, since baseball generally gets almost all my attention.
Yes, I know it's the wrong thread, but just one quick rant: it's the simplicity of having just "two" corners that makes oval racing so close and competitive. With many corners the car can afford to be slow in some and can catch up in other parts of the track, but with ovals the car has to be perfect at each end, a slightly off-pace car will fall behind quickly. Changing track conditions and running mere inches from several other cars also makes for great close racing, and the pit crews are fantastic athletes, rivaling any others in speed, skill and accuracy. But it's like any sport, you can only appreciate it when you understand what goes into it, which is why I also find Curling and American Football to be great games of skill and cunning tactics. :wave2:
Well it's probably been brought up several times before. But it doesn't really matter since most of you (despite pointing that out) still replies and create a discussion 
And bumping an ancient thread just because it's on the same subject makes no sense to me. It's not like this forum is flooded anyway My 2 cents.
On-topic though. Yes I hate the fake injuries too, that's why I don't like the Italian Serie A. But some of it is definitely real though. If you compare the combat suits American footballers have to the soccer equal you understand. And since the ball is not carried in any way the only way to break a more skilled guy than you is lumberjack-style.
What I like about soccer is that it's a very strategic game, hence all the passing. You don't have single technical/beefed persons settling games. The team as a whole is what matters. Take Germany for example, they don't possess that many solo-stars, but still manage to perform well in almost every championship due to nice teamplay.
Another reason I like football is because it feels like the sport to watch. At least in Europe, you can always (to some extent) discuss it or play with people. Everyone's at least slightly interested in it. Also, big money and many players make it a constantly eventful sport. There's always something going on in the football market.
All this opposed to American football, which, even if I would find it interesting, would be too distant for me. No one here cares about it, and even fewer people play it. And to be frank, Real Madrid holds a little more respect from me than the Miami Dolphins :lame:
And bumping an ancient thread just because it's on the same subject makes no sense to me. It's not like this forum is flooded anyway My 2 cents.On-topic though. Yes I hate the fake injuries too, that's why I don't like the Italian Serie A. But some of it is definitely real though. If you compare the combat suits American footballers have to the soccer equal you understand. And since the ball is not carried in any way the only way to break a more skilled guy than you is lumberjack-style.
What I like about soccer is that it's a very strategic game, hence all the passing. You don't have single technical/beefed persons settling games. The team as a whole is what matters. Take Germany for example, they don't possess that many solo-stars, but still manage to perform well in almost every championship due to nice teamplay.
Another reason I like football is because it feels like the sport to watch. At least in Europe, you can always (to some extent) discuss it or play with people. Everyone's at least slightly interested in it. Also, big money and many players make it a constantly eventful sport. There's always something going on in the football market.
All this opposed to American football, which, even if I would find it interesting, would be too distant for me. No one here cares about it, and even fewer people play it. And to be frank, Real Madrid holds a little more respect from me than the Miami Dolphins :lame:
American Football is Candian as well, and involves a lot of strategy ...
First off, I would also like to point out that Canadians were involved in one of the first "American football" games. Canadians have always been involved with the history and development of the sport in the Americas. So it's not merely US-only.
Secondly, I've had friends from India, Vietnam and other places that had no interest in American Football, but loved chess. I started teaching them the alleged "non-skill" positions, and from there, the formations, blocks, stunts and everything else. It wasn't even long into his second season before my Indian friend was "showing up" most of my fellow Americans when he'd said something like, "You fools! You should have been in a cover 1! You've gotta put 4 on the line. That O-line is dominating the line of scrimmage! Look at him roach that linebacker and the other linebacker be totally taken out from the side! Look at that guard pull and open that hole!"
Personally, as an American, I love to play Football (soccer), and did so as a pre-teen and teen. It's aerobic and requires a great deal of endurance. Of course, I played baseball and lettered on my varsity (American) football team. I lettered in two other sports -- cross-country/track and wrestling. We used to play Football (soccer) "for fun" on Saturdays during wrestling season, until we passed out.
But when it comes to being a spectator, I'm biased, but American Football is my game. Especially college where the majority of kids play for fun. I mean, was there anything greater than seeing those undersized, underdog kids from 'Nowhere North Carolina" block field goals at Michigan last year?
Strategy, determination, skill and luck all come together in American Football. Sometimes it's 30 seconds of setup followed by only 5 seconds of play. But sometimes it's amazing to see it unfold. Especially for those of us who used to play the game, and love to stop, rewind ("skip back" nowdays on DVRs) and look at the blocking going on.
Especially when the TV commentators are too busy promo'ing some new series or blabbing about some product placement -- we're looking back and what happened and why.
First off, I would also like to point out that Canadians were involved in one of the first "American football" games. Canadians have always been involved with the history and development of the sport in the Americas. So it's not merely US-only.
Secondly, I've had friends from India, Vietnam and other places that had no interest in American Football, but loved chess. I started teaching them the alleged "non-skill" positions, and from there, the formations, blocks, stunts and everything else. It wasn't even long into his second season before my Indian friend was "showing up" most of my fellow Americans when he'd said something like, "You fools! You should have been in a cover 1! You've gotta put 4 on the line. That O-line is dominating the line of scrimmage! Look at him roach that linebacker and the other linebacker be totally taken out from the side! Look at that guard pull and open that hole!"
Personally, as an American, I love to play Football (soccer), and did so as a pre-teen and teen. It's aerobic and requires a great deal of endurance. Of course, I played baseball and lettered on my varsity (American) football team. I lettered in two other sports -- cross-country/track and wrestling. We used to play Football (soccer) "for fun" on Saturdays during wrestling season, until we passed out.
But when it comes to being a spectator, I'm biased, but American Football is my game. Especially college where the majority of kids play for fun. I mean, was there anything greater than seeing those undersized, underdog kids from 'Nowhere North Carolina" block field goals at Michigan last year?
Strategy, determination, skill and luck all come together in American Football. Sometimes it's 30 seconds of setup followed by only 5 seconds of play. But sometimes it's amazing to see it unfold. Especially for those of us who used to play the game, and love to stop, rewind ("skip back" nowdays on DVRs) and look at the blocking going on.
Especially when the TV commentators are too busy promo'ing some new series or blabbing about some product placement -- we're looking back and what happened and why.
OK, I'm gonna call bullshit on the argument that some people have said about soccer player running for 90 minutes nonstop. The few times I've watched soccer there were about 4 guys running, and everyone else was just walking and lolligagging. The only times the players on the field actually run is when the ball is within 10 yards of where they are. Other than that, they're just kind of there.
In football, although the clock stops between plays and there is no action happening, most of the time players are running, even if it's only to get to the huddle, or to run 20 yards downfield to get the next play off without letting the defense readjust. Also, players don't just run when the ball is near them, they run from whistle to whistle on every play. If it's a run going left, the right receiver still has to get downfield to trick the secondary into buying a pass, and also to block for the runner downfield. If it's a pass, the linemen still have to get downfield after the ball was thrown to block any defenders trying to get to the receiver.
So, the argument of soccer being more athletic because the players are always running is invalid. As someone who played football, I can tell you that, even though the time between plays may seem like rest time, it really isn't. You're still running from the line to the huddle and back to the line. Anyone who's been in more than 2 plays can tell you that the time in the huddle is really not enough to rest.
In football, although the clock stops between plays and there is no action happening, most of the time players are running, even if it's only to get to the huddle, or to run 20 yards downfield to get the next play off without letting the defense readjust. Also, players don't just run when the ball is near them, they run from whistle to whistle on every play. If it's a run going left, the right receiver still has to get downfield to trick the secondary into buying a pass, and also to block for the runner downfield. If it's a pass, the linemen still have to get downfield after the ball was thrown to block any defenders trying to get to the receiver.
So, the argument of soccer being more athletic because the players are always running is invalid. As someone who played football, I can tell you that, even though the time between plays may seem like rest time, it really isn't. You're still running from the line to the huddle and back to the line. Anyone who's been in more than 2 plays can tell you that the time in the huddle is really not enough to rest.
^ Rugby I won't talk shit about because I've played a little bit, and I can attest how hardcore you have to be to play that game. Some of the things I saw guys do without pads are things that most football players wouldn't do with pads. :eek:
I prefer real football. 22 players, and 2 goals.
American rugby-football is game only for muscle stupid guys.
American rugby-football is game only for muscle stupid guys.
Synthmesc_Droog
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Football for me.
There's just no denying its place as the beautiful game.
So many superstars, so many competitions, so much controversy, rivalry and drama. It's about the clubs, the deals and the allegiances. Knowing there's a blank canvas; and that anything is possible on game day. The glorious victories and the heartbreaking losses that you share with the team and every other fan around the world. Passion for Football is shared by so many cultures, which further underscores the fact that Football is the world game. It's the whole atmosphere about Football that knocks all others to pieces.
American Football is just too boring to watch, and what a bunch of fools tip-toeing around with all that padding on. Fuck that shit.
There's just no denying its place as the beautiful game.
So many superstars, so many competitions, so much controversy, rivalry and drama. It's about the clubs, the deals and the allegiances. Knowing there's a blank canvas; and that anything is possible on game day. The glorious victories and the heartbreaking losses that you share with the team and every other fan around the world. Passion for Football is shared by so many cultures, which further underscores the fact that Football is the world game. It's the whole atmosphere about Football that knocks all others to pieces.
American Football is just too boring to watch, and what a bunch of fools tip-toeing around with all that padding on. Fuck that shit.
Obviously you've never been in those pads. It allows you to knock the shit out of someone without too much worry. Mega-fun.
since this bullshit goes on in soccer as these two videos show who would want to watch it if these assholes make a fool of themselves. These guys are actors.
this first dive is why soccer ipathetic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...soccer+injury&ei=LeGRSMiJKISQrAL54fy1Bw&hl=en
This one he looks like he just got shot
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...rst+fake+ever&ei=zOKRSK2aEILgqALK0sW2DQ&hl=en
Pathetic
this first dive is why soccer ipathetic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...soccer+injury&ei=LeGRSMiJKISQrAL54fy1Bw&hl=en
This one he looks like he just got shot
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...rst+fake+ever&ei=zOKRSK2aEILgqALK0sW2DQ&hl=en
Pathetic
People who don't know anything about football always judges it just because of those asshole divers...
For your information, there's much more to this beautiful game that makes it worth watching.
For your information, there's much more to this beautiful game that makes it worth watching.
dave_rhino
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The North American perception that only Europeans call "Soccer" Football needs to be dispelled immediately. It's the whole world, with the exception of US and Canada, that call it Football.
Even in Australia, where the game is now seen in a new light following the 2006 World Cup, most forms of the media now call "Soccer" Football in a concerted effort to align themselves with the rest of the world and probably to help with a future World Cup bid. This despite having there own code of Football, AFL.
Football is Football as decreed by the rules laid down by The Football Association of England back in 1863, this is comfortably before any other codes formalised their rules and made claim to word.
Even in Australia, where the game is now seen in a new light following the 2006 World Cup, most forms of the media now call "Soccer" Football in a concerted effort to align themselves with the rest of the world and probably to help with a future World Cup bid. This despite having there own code of Football, AFL.
Football is Football as decreed by the rules laid down by The Football Association of England back in 1863, this is comfortably before any other codes formalised their rules and made claim to word.
dave_rhino
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^ There! Take that, yanks!
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