For right now the best thing anyone could do is stay away 
Drug cartel stitches victim’s face on soccer ball
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Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Not true at all. The cartels are involved in everything from drug smuggling to kidnappings and child prostitution. And they'll kill anyone who gets in their way. They don't fit the (romantic and exaggerated) view that we tend to have of the Italian-American Mafia, where they only kill "their own kind".
They killed a group of women and young girls within sight of the U.S./Mexico border a few weeks ago - just shot them all in the head and left them to die like animals, from what I understand. They kidnapped and murdered an American teacher, Bobby Salcedo, very recently. The violence from Mexico has been seeping across the border for years. I used to rant about it on another board years ago, while the lemmings and sheeple were telling me about why we needed to be in Iraq... cause we gots to fight 'em over thar or we'll a be fightin' 'em over hyar. It truly sucks for the many innocent people caught up in this bullshit in Mexico. But it's time for people on this side of the border (on both sides of the political spectrum) to realize that "national security", first and foremost, means securing the safety of citizens on the U.S. home land!!! If I lived in the American southwest, I'd be a hell of a lot more worried about cartel related violence affecting me or my family than anything to do with Al Qaeda.
Very true. Not to mention the cartels smuggle in terrorists. In return for money, drugs, and arms by the terrorists (Al Qaeda, HAMAS, etc) the cartels smuggle them across the border into America. Honestly, for the most part, if you put a Mexican next to a Arab they look very similar and not too many will think twice about it.
These cartels aren't just in drugs. They kidnap women/girls over here and present them as "gifts" back in Mexico to whichever sick fuck it is they are giving them to, or for themselves.
They do indeed deal in drugs, human trafficking, smuggling, and murders on both sides of the border. It's just insane anymore.
Meh, it's just sad to see how we let things happen in this country and most people sit back and let it happen or we remain sensitive and go with the motto of "Well, it's not harming me in my safe suburban life. so why should I do anything?" If anyone does do anything they are labeled racists because people see illegal immigrant or a brown face and immediately get bent out of shape before understanding what is being talked about.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I agree with that. I personally have nothing against Mexicans, Canadians, Iraqis or any other nationality or race. But when you try to have discussions on immigration matters, you often get hit from two sides: one that wants to make EVERYTHING said be racist, in order to throw the discussion off topic (I've dealt with that for years and years when I've expressed my feelings about Zionism)... and then you have those who really are racists, and seize on ANY opportunity to express their backward, unfounded views on race and culture.
It's like you're trying to have a reasonable discussion on a serious topic, but on the one side, Rev. Al is shouting in your ear and then on the other side, David Duke is pounding on a table. Two sides of the same coin, both whining about how they've been wronged and they're victims of something.
I am in favor of decriminalizing (not so much legalizing) most drugs. But I'm not under the illusion that that (alone) will stop the cartels. I mean, let's say we went all the way and legalized cocaine tomorrow. They'd still be fighting each other to sell their coke to whatever body we set up here that would (legally) distribute it. They'd still kidnap people to make money. They'd still commit other crimes. Why? Because they're criminals and that's what criminals do.
I don't pretend to know what the long term answer is. But I wouldn't be surprised to see the U.S./Mexico border become militarized sooner than later. And to be honest, if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes... at least for the short term. The MAIN job of the U.S. government is to keep Americans safe from foreign threats. Its job is not to keep people in other countries safe from tyrannical rulers. It's not to eliminate "bad people", that may or may not pose a threat to us. It's not to make sure the Israelis are safe & warm at night. If Americans are being snatched here and drug across the border by organized forces, to be murdered or raped, I wish the fuck someone would tell me why that's not the primary concern of the United States government???!!!
A lot of people just love to argue and express their point of view as a personal satisfaction on their behalf and speaking on behalf of their views. I've learned just understand not everyone is going to see eye to eye. I can talk until I turn blue and display very detailed information and in the end it still will not change their minds. I say what I say and leave it at that. To keep feeding the back and forth verbal/type matches gets us nowhere and provides no use whatsoever.
If it should become legalized. I often wonder what the cartels will do. Surely human trafficking and smuggling arms/people across whichever side of the border is always an option. Thing is, when you think about the beginning steps, I wonder if they will threaten the stores selling the coke and weed and whatever might be legal. Or blow them up/kill whoever is involved to keep people so scared of going they still buy from them. There are so many different angles one can examine that one it's mind boggling and kind of scary to wonder how far the cartels will go to keep raking in as much money as they can.
If it is legal it will have a set price, tax, for sure; will there be a set limit of how much to buy? We know about ODs and too much use causing a lot of medical problems. Alcohol is the same, just less discussed about in a broader view, than say the "evil" drugs. Alcohol is a toxic substance, it is indeed a liquid poison, it just happens to make us happy and if too much then we can possibly die by OD or long term effects being cirrhosis as an example.
Just so many different angles to cover on both personal use, government involvement, and outside interference being the cartels and drug kingpins out there.
We should have our country at home and abroad safe from any dangers. As far as keeping it safe here what is the point of having a National Guard and Coast Guard if they are not utilized to get rid of a threat when it comes to closer at home.
Our military, the four main branches: Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, are for main use of at broad battles. Where they should be eliminating the threats.
What is the point of all these protection groups we have that are military trained if we are not going to use them properly?
When I see a program like this I immediately think of that show on History Channel Gangland. I watch a show like this and I wonder why they don't use the footage of that show to either A) capture the people you see bragging about being in said gang or B) find and eliminate the people who are bragging about being in their gang and what it is they do.
There is no real glory in gangs. They are just violent cretins plaguing the streets of our country, bringing down cities one by one, and introducing poisons, violence, and destruction in our cities. Yet, they are glorified because of shows like Gangland where you see them being recognized, and in the gang's eyes they are seeing that as: We made it on TV, there we are! Awesome! Let's keep doing what we are doing to get more notoriety.
Ah. I can keep going. I'd like to. This country is led by people who live in nowhere near dangers and have citizens who don't care until it happens in their backyards. And when it does happen in their backyard to actually want something to do they will realize that they are the last in the food chain and everything else has gone to hell.
From what I understant, that statement is true. That guy was probably a member of the Sinaloa cartel from what I read in that news story. So whenever I go to Mexico I just watch my back and don't fuck with anyone....other than those nice senoritas at the boystown.
Now, a true story. One night, after visiting a very friendly senorita by the name of Jazmin for about 20 minutes, I was driving back to the border, when suddenly bright colored lights behind me. I pull over to the side and park, but kept the engine running. I see in the mirror three guys in cammo getting off what appeared to be a police car. I thought "SHIT!!" in capital letters and with a several exclamation marks but kept my cool and formed a nice, warm, disarming smile like this ---->
Their boss tells me to get out of the car that I had been "speeding" and I'm thinking to myself "since when do Mexican cops wear cammo"? I noticed their caps had a logo that said GOPES (Grupo de Operaciones Especiales or Special Operations Group to you gringos). I'd never heard of GOPES, GAFES I had heard of but not these guys. So, three armed guys, in cammo T-shirts, who say are special forces soldiers (shit! Zetas, who used to be Mexican special forces soldiers, disguised as real soldiers in a car disguised as a fucking police car!! :eek
I don't know how but I kept my cool, engaged them in conversation, making sure that wherever I turned I was able to see all three of them, and made sure I didn't make any sudden moves and that they could see where I kept my hands, a smoke would have helped though. What I didn't like were some questions they asked me: "do you have family in this city?" (to call them for ransom maybe? but I told them that they all lived in the U.S. and I left my cell phone at home because it doesn't work in Mexico) "how much did your car cost?" (to sell it? well, I told them, the bank owns it until I finish paying for it and that's why I didn't have the title for it) "what do you do for a living?" (I told them I worked at a wal-mart) it all sounded like information I'd like to know about someone I was about to kidnap for ransom.
Well, I guess since they thought I was not a good profitable victim, or maybe they really were soldiers on patrol, they decided to let me pay a fine for speeding right there...$30 bucks and I didn't have to go to the station. Now, either they were kidnappers who just cut their losses for $30 or just soldiers out for some Corona money. Who was I dealing with? I don't know just like I don't know how i was able to keep my cool without pissing my pants. I guess the fact that I talked to them like they were old compadres didn't hurt.
From what I understant, that statement is true. That guy was probably a member of the Sinaloa cartel from what I read in that news story. So whenever I go to Mexico I just watch my back and don't fuck with anyone....other than those nice senoritas at the boystown.
Now, a true story. One night, after visiting a very friendly senorita by the name of Jazmin for about 20 minutes, I was driving back to the border, when suddenly bright colored lights behind me. I pull over to the side and park, but kept the engine running. I see in the mirror three guys in cammo getting off what appeared to be a police car. I thought "SHIT!!" in capital letters and with a several exclamation marks but kept my cool and formed a nice, warm, disarming smile like this ---->
Their boss tells me to get out of the car that I had been "speeding" and I'm thinking to myself "since when do Mexican cops wear cammo"? I noticed their caps had a logo that said GOPES (Grupo de Operaciones Especiales or Special Operations Group to you gringos). I'd never heard of GOPES, GAFES I had heard of but not these guys. So, three armed guys, in cammo T-shirts, who say are special forces soldiers (shit! Zetas, who used to be Mexican special forces soldiers, disguised as real soldiers in a car disguised as a fucking police car!! :eek
What I didn't like were some questions they asked me: "do you have family in this city?" (to call them for ransom maybe? but I told them that they all lived in the U.S. and I left my cell phone at home because it doesn't work in Mexico) "how much did your car cost?" (to sell it? well, I told them, the bank owns it until I finish paying for it and that's why I didn't have the title for it) "what do you do for a living?" (I told them I worked at a wal-mart) it all sounded like information I'd like to know about someone I was about to kidnap for ransom.
Well, I guess since they thought I was not a good profitable victim, or maybe they really were soldiers on patrol, they decided to let me pay a fine for speeding right there...$30 bucks and I didn't have to go to the station. Now, either they were kidnappers who just cut their losses for $30 or just soldiers out for some Corona money. Who was I dealing with? I don't know just like I don't know how i was able to keep my cool without pissing my pants. I guess the fact that I talked to them like they were old compadres didn't hurt.
Sounds like they were looking to kidnap you. Freaky. I like to take my vacations in stable countries. I know some folks will say Mexico is, but it's really not. It's just an illusion to make tourists feel safe hence all the warnings about where you can and you can't go etc.
I'd of been all like: Yo bitches! WAAAAAAA!!!
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But nice story no less. True, false, whatever, provided a good account :hatsoff:
I have no reason to doubt you, so don't think I'm calling you a liar or anything.
Wainkerr99
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Must have had them in stitches, thinking it funny. I guess that knocks South Africa down the most dangerous place in the world list.
Where's Jean Claude van Damme when you need him.
Where's Jean Claude van Damme when you need him.
Awwww, those Mexicans are so sweet. :tongue:
The taco trucks are all the way up here in the frozen (5* cold) north, on damn near every corner in my neighborhood now. It's a fucking disgrace I tell you.
It's kind of like a "we own this place now you Euro gringo filth, and we are here to stay and there is nothing you can do about it" type expose.
Nah, they don't want to integrate. La Raza runs the show. It will be a while before all the yuppies and other do-gooders have a knife to their throat before any of the ostrich's do anything about it.
Oh yeah, and, Sheriff Joe for president! :hatsoff:
Their boss tells me to get out of the car that I had been "speeding" and I'm thinking to myself "since when do Mexican cops wear cammo"? I noticed their caps had a logo that said GOPES (Grupo de Operaciones Especiales or Special Operations Group to you gringos). I'd never heard of GOPES, GAFES I had heard of but not these guys. So, three armed guys, in cammo T-shirts, who say are special forces soldiers (shit! Zetas, who used to be Mexican special forces soldiers, disguised as real soldiers in a car disguised as a fucking police car!! :eek
What I didn't like were some questions they asked me: "do you have family in this city?" (to call them for ransom maybe? but I told them that they all lived in the U.S. and I left my cell phone at home because it doesn't work in Mexico) "how much did your car cost?" (to sell it? well, I told them, the bank owns it until I finish paying for it and that's why I didn't have the title for it) "what do you do for a living?" (I told them I worked at a wal-mart) it all sounded like information I'd like to know about someone I was about to kidnap for ransom.
This is why I won't go to Mexico.
You're lucky they didn't want to kill you. You would be dead and your whereabouts unknown.
Legalize and decriminalize drugs in the U.S. and stop wasting U.S. taxpayers money to fund the war on drugs in Mexico and the drug cartels will suffer
Ace Boobtoucher
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I can't believe no one has reacted negatively to this clearly insensitive posting. Then again I was just retelling a story about what someone else did. Still, you think you know people.
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