Do you believe in global warming?

[Friday on my mind]

I don't believe it!

And evolution was developed by people who want to make money off it too!

Yeah that is the part of the other sides arguement is by far the weakest and most ridiculous IMO.That somehow this is all some made up thing to provide scientists with jobs.When anyone who really thinks about it would realize that all the money from rich powerfull interests like oil companies to be made is on the other side.Even they though are no longer are willing to fund the denial types the way they once were,the evidence for manmade climate change is just that strong now.

I watched some minutes of this vid someone put up "The Great Global Warming Swindle," and really found the bit I watched unimpressive.Really when you watch it even more then trying to deny the truth of the climate change the message you get is doing anything about this will not be fun or easy and on that part I think they tap into something very easy for many to buy into.As AL said its "An inconvient truth" and people have always had the tendency to just ignore and deny inconvient truths.

 

[grimey]

Have you read some of the controversy that surrounds this documentary? Much of which focuses on the intellectual dishonesty displayed by the filmmakers; ignoring pieces of research that disagree with them and the deliberate slanting of others in order for them to seem more in favour of the filmmakers views. Even two of the scientists involved say their views were misrepresented.

So yes, it may well represent some of the objections to the theory. It is by no means objective.

No I haven't, but there are an overwhelming number of folks in that doco that seem to object to the theory.

That still doesn't mean that Al Gore isn't a convincing salesmen with big money pull that is using some in the scientific community as bait to take advantage of the people of this country and indeed world.

 

[tartanterrier]

Nope.I think the world is changing like it's always done all these thousands
of years

 

[Skyraider22]

I don't know what to believe anymore

 

[Gordar]

To all those people who begin about Al Gore... Are you all aware that the change in climate/global warming wasn't invented by Gore & that he wasn't the first to mention it either? He's just the last in line trying to make the public aware of it....

 

[grimey]

To all those people who begin about Al Gore... Are you all aware that the change in climate/global warming wasn't invented by Gore & that he wasn't the first to mention it either? He's just the last in line trying to make the public aware of it....

Of course, but are you aware that Al Gore stands to become fantastically rich by taxing carbon, which is one of the four life-giving elements necessary to sustain life on this planet? :dunno:

 

[Gordar]

Of course, but are you aware that Al Gore stands to become fantastically rich by taxing carbon, which is one of the four life-giving elements necessary to sustain life on this planet? :dunno:

That makes him a greedy b@stard, not a liar (or at least not the initial liar) & I don't think this thread was about Al Gore taxing people ...

 

[grimey]

That makes him a greedy b@stard, not a liar (or at least not the initial liar) & I don't think this thread was about Al Gore taxing people ...

I think you just contradicted yourself....

 

[BlueBalls]

Of course, but are you aware that Al Gore stands to become fantastically rich by taxing carbon, which is one of the four life-giving elements necessary to sustain life on this planet? :dunno:

If it's not profitable I wouldn't expect any of the high profile names and companies now involved putting money into the research industry to find new cleaner ways to create fuel to be involved. The only way you're going to get big oil/coal/gas etc to cut their emissions is to come up with a profitable alternative. I bet Gore will make a lot of money out of this and he’ll be a hypocrite for doing so but you’re making it sound like the tax he proposes will be taxing all known carbon on this planet which isn’t true at all. The only thing being taxed is the carbon (CO2) that's a by-product of burning fossil fuels.

EDIT: What Gordar said.

This is getting off topic. Gore may well be a spokesman but it's the actual evidence of whether it's true or not that should be the focus of discussion here not the personalities.

 

[Facial_King]

Like any good free-market-loving conservative, I won't believe it's real until every last piece of ice on the planet has melted, and my home spontaneously combusts just from the sheer heat. And by then, hey, there won't be anything we can do except fight over the remaining shit that hasn't already been washed away by the floodwaters or whatever other disasters ensue.

Also, I just picked up a pamphlet at my local gas station saying that new research shows that global warming is totally bogus. Research from real scientists, not those money-grubbing ones who work for government agencies, universities, and non-profit science institutes. So, there's nothing to worry about anyway.

Back to my burger and my Matlock DVDs!

 

[grimey]

This is getting off topic. Gore may well be a spokesman but it's the actual evidence of whether it's true or not that should be the focus of discussion here not the personalities.

Agree whole-heartedly.

What Gordar said was that he didn't initiate the lie. So it is a lie? :dunno:

 

[jasonk282]

I have a theory follow along:

We have a hole in our ozone layer right?
The earth is getting warmer from carbon that we produce down here
Warm air rises
Eventually it will just rise right out of the ozone hole.

Crisis solved, what's nexted?

 

[Lungzyn]

I have a theory follow along:

We have a hole in our ozone layer right?
The earth is getting warmer from carbon that we produce down here
Warm air rises
Eventually it will just rise right out of the ozone hole.

Crisis solved, what's nexted?

Actually we should just get rid of the ozone layer altogether, who cares about skin cancer?
Its not a good thing

 

[grimey]

The earth is getting warmer from carbon that we produce down here

This is highly debatable. Many scientists strongly disagree with the sentiment that carbon is actually causing the temperature on earth to increase.

The IPCC, which is a bureaucratic panel, approved the carbon theory for reasons that were based on politics and money. That's all there is to it. Twenty years from now when people realize they let themselves be duped by a bunch of crooks it's going to be too late to do anything.

 

[jasonk282]

Actually we should just get rid of the ozone layer altogether, who cares about skin cancer?
Its not a good thing

This is highly debatable. Many scientists strongly disagree with the sentiment that carbon is actually causing the temperature on earth to increase.

The IPCC, which is a bureaucratic panel, approved the carbon theory for reasons that were based on politics and money. That's all there is to it. Twenty years from now when people realize they let themselves be duped by a bunch of crooks it's going to be too late to do anything.

My post was a joke based on a comedy act from Dennis Miller in 2005. Glad you all have a sence of humor.

 

[BlueBalls]

Actually we should just get rid of the ozone layer altogether, who cares about skin cancer?
Its not a good thing

Hear, hear! Who need protection from those pussy ass solar flares either. Fuck the ozone layer, what has it ever done for us!

 

[grimey]

I realized that it was tounge in cheek. I didn't know if you actually believed or not the notion of carbon being responsible for warming up our planet, so I figured I would bring it to people's attention. :hatsoff:

 

[jasonk282]

Hear, hear! Who need protection from those pussy ass solar flares either. Fuck the ozone layer, what has it ever done for us!

Sha it's kept us from getting killer tans. Fuck the Ozone, Fuck the ozone.

 

[grimey]

Yeah, fuck you ozone! :thefinger :thefinger

 

[sexdog121]

How many Ice Ages have there been? Global Warming is just part of the cycle of changing climates. You think people were around polluting the world then too?