Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in head

Both leftists and extreme right wingers are to blame for the vitriolic hate. However, hate/violence to some degree has always existed in US politics since the 1800s.
 

Jon S.

Banned
yes we are the greatest nation in the history of mankind. and fuck you for thinking otherwise. some kind of citizen you are.

I suppose that is why we seemingly don't even rank in the top 10 in anything that is good? As far as the kind of citizen I am, I am the best kind! I am not an apologist! I am a free thinker! I can see things for what they are! I am capable of taking off the blinders and in looking at things through non-rose colored glasses. And, best of all, I'm not a mindless hack.

Funny how I know I can walk the streets of a city the size of Toronto or Montreal & I have nothing to fear no matter where I go. But go to ANY CITY in the USA & you know there are several places you don't want to drive, much less walk through....especially after dark!

Sometimes the best kind of love one can give is tough love! I see things that are a certain way in my country and I say WHY!?!? I see things that should ideally be a certain way in my country, but aren't, and I say WHY NOT!?!?! Instead, too many Americans are too busy reciting the rhetorical mantra that we are the greatest & God bless America....as if we are the chosen ones!

In the meantime AM radio remains a pornographic cesspool of hate and vitriol! Though I'm certain that the gutless cowards that make up so-called conservative talk (you know, "entertainers" who are "conservative" for pay) will try to distance themselves from what happened & the vitriol that the spewed for months and years that served as the fuel that fed the powder keg that exploded in Arizona today! That's just how gutless cowards work! They push all the buttons, then when the inevitable occurs.......they say "who, me?!?!?!"

I know sometimes the truth hurts......but someone has to say it.....because it is still just that....THE TRUTH!
 
I suppose that is why we seemingly don't even rank in the top 10 in anything that is good? As far as the kind of citizen I am, I am the best kind! I am not an apologist! I am a free thinker! I can see things for what they are! I am capable of taking off the blinders and in looking at things through non-rose colored glasses. And, best of all, I'm not a mindless hack.


I would never describe a Stillers/Pens fan as a best kind of citizen! :rofl2:
 
"We’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list. But the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action." Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. March 25, 2010.
 
Yeah but that's Americans they just love to shoot people.

Compared to most of the rest of the world, not very much.

This is really a tragedy, unfortunately perpetrated by an obviously deranged person who seems to exhibit paranoid schizophrenic traits.

And anyone trying to make some kind of political points out of this is in my eyes no better than the person who did the shooting. It's disgusting. :2 cents:
 
Dear Sarah:

You don't get to put a map on your website w gun targets over a district, encourage your buffoon supporters to "reload," constantly tell them that Ds aren't real Americans, and then pretend like you are shocked and saddened when someone listens to you.

I'm sure the past year has been fun with your book tour and high priced speaking engagements,but if you could spare some of your blood money, there's a couple in Arizona that needs to go buy their 9 year old a coffin tomorrow.
 
Dear Sarah:

You don't get to put a map on your website w gun targets over a district, encourage your buffoon supporters to "reload," constantly tell them that Ds aren't real Americans, and then pretend like you are shocked and saddened when someone listens to you.

I'm sure the past year has been fun with your book tour and high priced speaking engagements,but if you could spare some of your blood money, there's a couple in Arizona that needs to go buy their 9 year old a coffin tomorrow.

That's such a cheap, scumbag move, man. I despise Palin as much as anybody and her inflammatory horse shit was disgusting; talk of reloading and whatnot. But to connect her to a dead 9 year old? Pretty fucking despicable.

Catie Parker claims to have been in a band with Loughner, as well as his high school and college classmate. In a Twitter exchange with Anthony De Rosa, she said that when she knew Loughner he was a radical liberal, a "loner" and "very philosophical:
"He was a political radical and met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question and he told me she was 'stupid and unintelligent.' He was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix, The Doors, Anti-Flag.... As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

Parker says Loughner dropped out of school after getting alcohol poisoning in '06.
http://gawker.com/5728605/arizona-shooter-explained-mind-control-on-youtube

Yeah, sounds like he was under the Palin spell. You know crazy, Commie Palin supporters who want to take land away from property owners and create a new currency...

Sorry to burst your bubble and I'm sorry that you can't exploit dead people to degrade the reputation of people you disagree with, but this guy wasn't a "Teabagger" or a Palin-fanatic; he was just plum-fucking crazy.




And, just for fun: http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png Fucking Liberal's, man, planting the seed of MURDER!

See how ridiculous that is? There ya go.
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...
imo, it would be wrong to label the U.S. as a country harbouring gun-toting nuts...have we forgtten the recent assassination in Pakistan? Or the Stockholm suicide bomber who originated (unfortunately) from our shores?

These days the ideology, whether religious, political or otherwise, is taken to such extremes by some folks, that they believe they have the right to commit murder in order to justify their beliefs...

Or to put it another way, I guess mankind is just fcuked up...:(
 

KLSsw08

My Hands Should Be Patented As A Bra; Perfect Fit!
Gabrielle Giffords has not died.She is in critical condition and was talking before and after surgery.The lead trauma surgeon says that he is optimistic about her recovery.I live in Tucson,Arizona where the shooting took place.
People need to get their facts straight before posting that someone is "dead".For those who say that Americans are "gun crazy" and like to shoot people;guns are not the problem,the people who have guns that shouldn't have them are the problem.



Scott
 

KLSsw08

My Hands Should Be Patented As A Bra; Perfect Fit!
imo, it would be wrong to label the U.S. as a country harbouring gun-toting nuts...have we forgtten the recent assassination in Pakistan? Or the Stockholm suicide bomber who originated (unfortunately) from our shores?

These days the ideology, whether religious, political or otherwise, is taken to such extremes by some folks, that they believe they have the right to commit murder in order to justify their beliefs...

Or to put it another way, I guess mankind is just fcuked up...:(


Well said!:bowdown:


Scott
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
"We’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list. But the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action." Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. March 25, 2010.

Wow! Amazingly prophetic on her part!
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
What a tragedy. But really, it has been a bit like the killing of the doctor that worked in a abortion clinic. When radio or tv people keep saying, he should be killed, eventually some weak minded person will do so.

In this case, I think it was Palin. Her extreme rhetorics are igniting a lot of hate, and now one of her tools has acted on it. I guess she is sitting at home snickering, and trying to put up some lines about how shocked she is.
 
So was the Loughner douche a extreme left or right winger?

He's a nut. Here, from USA Today:

He listed his favorite books as Animal Farm,Brave New World,The Wizard of OZ,Aesop's Fables,The Odyssey,Alice's Adventures in Wonderland,Fahrenheit 451,Peter Pan,To Kill A Mockingbird,We The Living,Phantom Toll Booth,One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest,Pulp,Through The Looking Glass,The Communist Manifesto,Siddhartha,The Old Man and the Sea,Gulliver's Travels,Mein Kampf,The Republic and Meno.

His classmates called him a radical liberal, The Communist Manifesto is one of his favorite books and he's on YouTube lighting the American flag on fire. He also doesn't believe in our money system because it isn't backed by gold and he doesn't "Trust in God"? What is there to connect him to Palin, The Right or anybody?? The woman he tried to kill was a Blue Dog Democrat that Liberal Democrats tried to oust. She's hard on illegal immigration and supported the 2nd Amendment.

Nothing he said makes any sense. His YouTube vids are straight retarded...no rhyme or reason. He repeats himself over and over as if he spotted some clever system that nobody else can see.

It's just crazy. You do a google search and you see the Rush and Hannity wannabes trying to make this guy look like he's Sean Penn with a Glock and the liberals are trying to make him look like another example of the imaginary Tea Party terrorist cell. People need to fit this into some neat, convenient rational system because they can't face the fact that shit in this world is nuts and chaos is a part of it. It'd be so easy if we could just blame it on a political group, a movie, religion or video game. Well, we can't.
 

Jon S.

Banned
Gabrielle Giffords has not died.She is in critical condition and was talking before and after surgery.The lead trauma surgeon says that he is optimistic about her recovery.I live in Tucson,Arizona where the shooting took place.
People need to get their facts straight before posting that someone is "dead".



Scott

Well, for the record, when I posted that she had died (as is the case I am sure with others who posted the same thing), I was only quoting all of the major news outlets that were reporting & confirming that she had indeed died! If you want to be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the media for, once again, being concerned with being the 1st to break a story.....as opposed to being concerned with old school principles of journalism such as whether or not the story is correct. Forgive me, but we SHOULD be able to rely on something as serious as this being accurate when ALL of the major outlets are reporting it! Of course, once again this was proven to be inaccurate! Clearly someone on the ground in Tucson leaked inaccurate information to the media & all outlets picked up on this piece of inaccurate information!
 
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