Re: Chinese Democracy
Here is the flaw in your argument that Axl Rose was just an "identifiable voice" and didn't help make Guns N Roses the band that they were...
Axl Rose wrote a lot of the music that Guns N Roses played. He wrote most of the lyrics himself and helped orchestrate all of the instruments that were involved in each song. He also played the piano, which was a very important instrument in the sound that Guns N Roses played. He also had a very distinct voice, which helped make Guns N Roses a band that stood out from all of the others.
Um... he wrote lyrics... thats about it! maybe november rain, but according to thier first album (which everyone and thier mother, including yours, loves) axl only wrote lyrics. music was all written by slash, duff, stradlin, sorry buddy you're wrong there. and guess what? wasn't that the album that made them as big as they were?
Now, you then go on to talk about when David Lee Roth left Van Halen and started his solo project. You also say that when Van Halen had Sammy Hagar as a lead singer that they didn't sound like Van Halen, even though their style of music hadn't changed. But wait, wouldn't that contradict your argument that Axl Rose didn't make Guns N Roses because he was only an "identifiable voice"...???
hey 'music man'. listen to 1984, then eat em and smile. the guitar work is very similar. where as you listen to van halens follow up ou812 and 5150, they just wrote love songs and shit about dreams.
Van Halen + Van Halen music + David Lee Roth (the voice) = Van Halen
Van Halen + Van Halen music + Sammy Hagar (the voice) = NOT Van Halen?
no
eddie van halen + michael jackson= beat it, which = number 1 hit
eddie van halen + david lee roth + keyboards=number 1 hit =jump
eddie van halen + sammy hagar= 2 guitarist- 1 for keyboards= shitty ass love songs about dreams.
van halen...err i mean van hagar never had as iconic songs as they did with dlr.
its the same with kiss, once ace frehley and peter criss left, what happened with kiss? they un-masked, thier drummer died, they sucked.
The only difference is the voice, so...
:dunno:
Oh, and listen to Van Halen's album III, when they had Gary Cherone as their lead singer. It fucking SUCKS. Not because the music is all that terrible, but because of the lead singer. It sounded nothing like Van Halen because their lead singer didn't have a "Van Halen voice". Since there was no "identifiable voice" on that album, it has been regarded as a joke and not a true "Van Halen" record.
first and foremost, i said in an earlier post that vh3 sucks just as much as chinese democracy, st anger, risk, and any other shitty album that a hard rock/metal band put out. and with sammy influencing the band direction (as all singers do) he wanted more gay love dreamy songs. fuck that thats not what vh is about.
plus with the singer working as the musician, you really dont have as much input as a guitarist does. im 99% sure axl didn't come up with that sweet child of mine riff, just the lyrics. and that goes with every other recognizable guitar riff in the 'book'
Axl Rose wasn't everything that Guns N Roses had, but he was an important piece. In order to become a band, you need all of the pieces to work. Guns N Roses wouldn't be Guns N Roses without Slash. Guns N Roses wouldn't be Guns N Roses without Duff. Guns N Roses wouldn't be Guns N Roses without Dizzy, etc, etc...
THANK YOU for that last sentence, something we agree on... .. .. however axl was hardly an important piece, id say slash and stradlin were. ITs true, axl only brought them november rain, and a lot of bad press about a wild stupid crazy retarded fuck-face ass twat of a lead singer axl was. he brought 1 thing positive to the band. and thats its. nothing more. he sucks
by the way dont by the cd, you cant get your dr pepper now cuz it was only eligible on the dayy of the cd's release.
fuck chinese demo!
