China wants peak at US stealth copter

Lol yeah you are right in spotting that Pakistan has switched sides over this whole thing. Relationships were already strained with the US thanks to the UAV strikes and now this seems to have pushed them over the limit.

Just now I'm hearing that alongside China, they are cutting deals with the Russians for military and diplomatic relations and "the combatting of heroin trafficking" according to Russia Today. It's kind of obvious they either stopped seeing benefit with being on the US/West's side or are just trying to intimidate/threaten the US/West into restarting their relationship.

However, cutting whatever aid Pakistan gets will most likely result in a complete collapse of the country and it falling into the Extremist's hands, essentially creating another safe haven for them. A collapsed state will probably also be rescued or helped out by the likes of the Chinese, Russians or Iranians and thus increasing their power and influence.
Either case is disasterous to the US/West, so I think best thing is to keep giving them aid, as even in the worst case scenario of them coming under the influence of Russia/China, they will still owe us something, and thus we still have a stake and say in their country.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

Btw, whose the hot-ass chick in your avatar and signiture mate? :D

I have a resounding fear that if that kind of political course continues it's going to end up resembling the ideology of decades ago with Communism.

We must stop the terrorism from spreading otherwise its neighbors will fall under its' rule and be against us. Perhaps it's more true than it was with Communism but both have drug is into foreign wars with a potential for more down the road; with a waining sense of influence and prestige globally.

**Now the serious bit. My avatar and sig is The One and The Only Jana Defi. I need to take the time to make a jazzier one but I just haven't gotten around to it. Thankfully though she tends to speak for herself. :hatsoff:
 
You dont know too much about that part of the world do you?



Yes I do know quite a lot thank you. Our relationship with Pakistan isn't bulletproof and we certainly won't go the distance to save that sorry lot from their own destruction. The Pakistanis are their own worst enemy, a society that chose to go down the dark road of Islamism during and after Zia ul Haq's rule. They could've saved themselves but their warped paranoia of India has only fed the Islamist nature in the Pakistani armed forces.

Everyone knows India would wipe the floor with Pakistan but China unfortunately won't allow that to happen. It's because of this that Pakistan thinks it can get away with launching terrorist attacks against India like the Mumbai terror attack.
 
Sorry lad, but you are wrong. A Pak-India war would go nuclear resulting in no winner. China does as it deems strategically best for it.

On the issue, Pakistan has agreed to return the copter parts. See what happens when you ask people nicely?

John Kerry would have made a great President. He's smart, suave, intelligent. Hope he runs again someday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-aid-prospects/2011/05/16/AFJJIZ4G_story.html



So we get some parts back. At this point it's moot considering the Paks have already allowed China to take a look.
Just recognize Baluchistan if the Paks are dumb enough to close off the ISAF supply line to Afgh.
 
It's no big secret that Russia and China have spies all over the world in every bloody country. They're spying on everyone and everything. And if they get caught, they have no shame really. :dunno:

Cheeky bastards. :mad:
 
So we get some parts back. At this point it's moot considering the Paks have already allowed China to take a look.
Just recognize Baluchistan if the Paks are dumb enough to close off the ISAF supply line to Afgh.

Recognizing Baluchistan will mean nothing seeing as there isnt even a credible independence movement there. Plus, China would just veto any formal UN recognition.

:1orglaugh
 
Recognizing Baluchistan will mean nothing seeing as there isnt even a credible independence movement there. Plus, China would just veto any formal UN recognition.

:1orglaugh




China refusing to recognize an independent Baluchistan wouldn't do anything. Remember Kosovo? Many have recognized it, others haven't(China) nevertheless it's considered "independent".

The Baluchistanis hate Pakistan.



You claim to be getting a Doctorate in what again?
 
You're an idiot.

I am doing a PhD in US-Pakistani security relations. Most Baluchis are proud Pakistanis, you must have met a tiny minority who are separatists.

What's your familiarity with that part of the world?

I have been there, seen it. Studied it.
 
Hate to shock you, but Pakistan has been sanctioned 100000000000 times and always managed to get by. You dont know too much about that part of the world do you?

Let them wither between India, Iran and Afgahanistan without U.S. support and Pakistan will die quickly. Pakistan fvked up.
 
You're an idiot.

I am doing a PhD in US-Pakistani security relations. Most Baluchis are proud Pakistanis, you must have met a tiny minority who are separatists.

What's your familiarity with that part of the world?

I have been there, seen it. Studied it.

I'm pretty ignorant on that part of the world and their culture. I know a few Pakistanis who are in the US. I like them, but there are times where they (the specific people I know) are tough to reason with. I never know if it is just their personality or their culture. Since I'm ignorant, I try not to form an opinion beyond the person.

It isn't easy.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
You're an idiot.

I am doing a PhD in US-Pakistani security relations. Most Baluchis are proud Pakistanis, you must have met a tiny minority who are separatists.

What's your familiarity with that part of the world?

I have been there, seen it. Studied it.

Clearly, with your obvious diplomatic skills and humility, you're going to be applying for a government job when your done.
 

Deepcover

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I can tolerate the Asians then the Pakistanis. Pakistanis only care about themselves and putting a church in one's neighbourhood while taking over. Once they start a foundation then it is all set for them and their goals. Pakistanis don't fuck around.
 
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