China - The Rise of Totalitarian Capitalism

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China and Russia send message to Japan and US with first-of-its-kind transit by warships​

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...ng-tsugaru-strait-message-to-japan-us-2021-10

Bad enough these two countries seem to be buddies again, but sending 10 warships through the Tsugaru strait (that tiny bit of water separating the main Japanese island from Hokkaido) is just military trolling.
The irony is that Japan decided to forgo the standard costal rights just so that the US could bring its nuclear weapons to East Asia. Maybe they should re-think that one.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

China and Russia send message to Japan and US with first-of-its-kind transit by warships​

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...ng-tsugaru-strait-message-to-japan-us-2021-10

Bad enough these two countries seem to be buddies again, but sending 10 warships through the Tsugaru strait (that tiny bit of water separating the main Japanese island from Hokkaido) is just military trolling.
The irony is that Japan decided to forgo the standard costal rights just so that the US could bring its nuclear weapons to East Asia. Maybe they should re-think that one.

Weren't China and Russia always buddies? Anyways, the solution to conflict is always de-escalation, and de-escalation means not forming opposing gangs - so when America backs other countries, their enemies form gangs to counter the first gang, then next thing is how world wars one and two happened...

I don't know what perfect solution obviously, but it would have to involve every country really minding their own business as best as possible, and in the case of today's military climate - all the countries would have to actively encourage de-esclation steps such as walking back all the alliances etc that lead to the world wars in first place...then like disarming nuclear weapons same steps regarding conventional weapons etc...not impossible but highly improbable.

 

[gmase]

Interesting take on the origins of WW1 and WW2. America was not in at the start of either.

… so when America backs other countries, their enemies form gangs to counter the first gang, then next thing is how world wars one and two happened...

 

[Luxman]

Interesting take on the origins of WW1 and WW2. America was not in at the start of either.

Maybe America did have some influence on the start of WW2 ???

 

[Luxman]

I believe WW2 was the main catalyst for the creation of Communist China?

 

[gmase]

Maybe America did have some influence on the start of WW2 ???

Disappointing to see George there. You're saying America gave Hitler unnecessary comfort which allowed him to invade Poland a few months later?

 

[Luxman]

Disappointing to see George there. You're saying America gave Hitler unnecessary comfort which allowed him to invade Poland a few months later?

It's possible that support from American Nazis and corporations influenced his decision to start WW2.
Maybe there are some old articles or letters to support this theory?

 

[gmase]

It's possible that support from American Nazis and corporations influenced his decision to start WW2.
Maybe there are some old articles or letters to support this theory?

There is plenty of such evidence. In the end though, America was not involved in the origins of WW2.

 

[Luxman]

There is plenty of such evidence. In the end though, America was not involved in the origins of WW2.

Maybe not officially, but privately there were many who wanted America to support Germany and many who wanted America to support Britain.

America and WW2: when, how and why did the US get involved, and why they didn’t enter sooner?
https://www.historyextra.com/period...w-america-entered-ww2-pearl-harbor-roosevelt/

"Both in Congress and among the American public, this sentiment had been strengthened by the experience of World War I, which isolationists claimed America had only entered in 1917 because US manufacturers wanted to make a profit by selling munitions."

"The outbreak of full-scale conflict between Japan and China in July 1937 had little to do with the USA and its people. Neither did Germany’s pre-war actions in the 1930s"

Greed starts every war.

 

[Luxman]

"The spark that ignited World War I was struck in Sarajevo, Bosnia, where Archduke Franz Ferdinand—heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire—was shot to death along with his wife, Sophie, by the Serbian nationalist Gavrilo Princip on June 28, 1914."

Throughout history, small events changed the world. If Gavrilo Princip had gotten sick, died, in any way been prevented from killing Archduke Franz Ferdinand, world history from the past century, and our current lives would be very different. Maybe our lives would be worse or maybe better???

Henry Tandey became the most decorated private soldier in World War One.
His bravery though would be eclipsed in the run-up to World War Two by allegations he had spared Adolf Hitler's life, in 1918.

If Hitler had died during WW1 what would the world be like now? It's frustrating to think about it.
I read somewhere that Hitler had, in his home or office, a painting of Henry Tandey.

 

[Luxman]

"Mao ruled China through an autocratic and totalitarian regime responsible for mass repression as well as destruction of religious and cultural artifacts and sites.[2] The government was responsible for vast numbers of deaths with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims through starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

How China Became Capitalist
https://www.cato.org/policy-report/january/february-2013/how-china-became-capitalist

 

[gmase]

@Luxman - excellent posts. Neither war began, as the initial quote suggested, with America taking a side and counter alliances being formed to contain that alliance.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

@Luxman - excellent posts. Neither war began, as the initial quote suggested, with America taking a side and counter alliances being formed to contain that alliance.

Interesting that you two don't understand how the world wars started, but you both like to be sarcastic about if alliances had anything to do with what led to the world wars.

@gmase - where in my initial post did I suggest that any of the world wars began with America taking a side? Pompous jackass.

 

[gmase]

Interesting that you two don't understand how the world wars started, but you both like to be sarcastic about if alliances had anything to do with what led to the world wars.

@gmase - where in my initial post did I suggest that any of the world wars began with America taking a side? Pompous jackass.

I said no such thing. Can you read? Or do you experience comprehension issues? I responded to what I quoted.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

I said no such thing. Can you read? Or do you experience comprehension issues? I responded to what I quoted.

Post #132 jackass, you being a pompous ass giving you comprehension issues as usual.

 

[gmase]

Post #132 jackass, you being a pompous ass giving you comprehension issues as usual.

Here's what you said

so when America backs other countries, their enemies form gangs to counter the first gang, then next thing is how world wars one and two happened...

Again, neither war started with America taking a side.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

Here's what you said


Again, neither war started with America taking a side.

Again, you're trying too hard jackass, the reference is in general to how the world wars was because of countries taking sides - which later on America did take a side.

You and @Luxman are going to have to try harder to find reasons to lecture others on world history according to pompous jackasses.

 

[Luxman]

Greed causes all wars.

 

[gmase]

Again, you're trying too hard jackass, the reference is in general to how the world wars was because of countries taking sides - which later on America did take a side.

You and @Luxman are going to have to try harder to find reasons to lecture others on world history according to pompous jackasses.

It never gets old.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

Greed causes all wars.

Actually, it's the escalation of aggression that causes all wars. Without escalation simple disagreements would not escalate into wars.

Greed causes industry and effort, without greed what incentive is there for anyone to do anything? Greed is as normal as love and caring, parents are greedy for money to provide more for their children than compared to what the average parent can provide.