Hondarobot
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I'll respond to point out that you are retarded for not using a capital letter A at the beginning of your post.
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I'll respond to point out that you are retarded for not using a capital letter A at the beginning of your post.
lol well then if that's why I'm retarded then I have nothing further to comment on
You're right but its clearly outdated. Back in the times of the Founding Fathers, citizens could actually rise up and revolt against the government. That's not going to happen now......good luck trying to take on the Marines, Army, the predator drones,etc.
good point iceman but I'm sure many across the world made similar statements in regards to the superiority of the British Empire when the colonists decided to declare their independence and take up arms against them, and if I were a US citizen, its not the majority of the US military that would concern me, I'd be more concerned about foreign UN troops landing on US shores
Hondarobot
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If, following this idea, foreign UN troops are about to invade the US, I can totally see how a room full of guns would be useful.
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Or our open borders and tens of millions of illegals roaming, to say nothing about being at a residence in the middle of nowhere with pretty much non existent law enforcement or a high crime neighborhood. At the end of the day you are on your own to protect yourself. That is a God given right. No one has the right to take that away from me and they never will.
But you are right in your post above, it was to keep Uncle Sam in check to begin with.
Mayhem
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It is not outdated at all. The system works because of the Bill of Rights, the Bill of Rights works because of the 2nd Amendment. Pick any point in history, 1789, the Civil War, the JFK assassination, and eliminate the 2nd Amendment from that point forward; we have a much different country with a much different government. And not a better one.
I was just referring to the belief that in today's world we(Americans) could uprise and overthrow the government with our own guns. The U.S. is the best military force in the world, you're kidding yourself if you think we could defeat them
Mayhem
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Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq....the best military in the world doesn't have a very good track record against insurgent, guerilla armies. And what makes you think that we'd be fighting more than a disorganized fraction of them, once desertions and defections took their toll?
good point, the British went into Afghanistan and lost, so did the Russians and they lost, I fear the US now will bear many more casualties before the goofballs on capitol hill realize that all this continued militarism cannot be sustained
Mayhem
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We're not talking about that. We are talking about the legitimacy of the 2nd Amendment to ultimately safeguard out freedoms here in the US. The knowledge that every politician has to take to work every day that they can only go so far. Twenty years ago, it was the Liberals that needed worrying about. For the last 10+ years, it has been the overreaching of the Conservatives and their demon offspring, the TeaParty. The 2nd Amendment is the final check and balance in our system and it is as relevant today as it ever was.
both the left and the right at the top are controlled by the same money powers and the Tea Party was taken over by Koch Brothers financing and yes the relevancy of the 2nd amendment will and forever be an important god given right and anyone who does not think so should do some research on the regimes of Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Stalin and Lenin, Hitler and also the present day gun ban in Mexico which leaves good people defenseless and all the illegal firearms in the hands of the drug cartels and the corrupt regime
Hondarobot
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OK, let's not all go crazy. The right to own a firearm is included in the second amendment to the US constitution. It's a good idea, when you consider that 99% of gun owners don't flip out and commit a crazy rampage.
On the other hand, 100 round Ar-15 drums should not be available to buy at a gun show, or shop, or online, or whatever.
The point being: guns are not bad beyond who is holding them, and you don't sell 6000 rounds to someone. But how do you regulate that?
On the other hand, 100 round Ar-15 drums should not be available to buy at a gun show, or shop, or online, or whatever.
The point being: guns are not bad beyond who is holding them, and you don't sell 6000 rounds to someone. But how do you regulate that?
Mayhem
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What difference does the magazine capacity make? Limit me to 10 round magazines, I pack more magazines. What does it matter? And regulating ammo sales based on quantity is a waste of time too. Anyone can buy a reloading press and make as many rounds as they want.
Hondarobot
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The difference is that Joe Lunchbox has no need for a 100 round ammo drum. A lunatic could pack more magazines, but they could be more easily shot while changing clips.
This is my argument. I'm not calling for a total ban on guns. I just want to figure out a way to keep guns and ammo out of the hands of lunatics. What is so wrong about that?
Hondarobot
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That's bullshit. No US civilian, in the states, needs a 100 round magazine. Beer and pictures on the wall are fine. I'm somewhat questioning snowmobiles though, because someone could do some serious damage with one of those Yami Phazers, if it was tricked out with a large number of explosives.
Hondarobot
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You can't keep guns and ammo away from lunatics, it's an impossible question to solve.
Mayhem
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Alcohol results in more deaths, across the board, than guns. The pictures on the wall could be obscene (and viewable by children) and/or communist/Arab/KKK propaganda. So could the magazines on the table. And unless the user is from the far north where snowmobiles are a necessity, they are using up fossil fuels, continuing our dependence on foreign oil, polluting the atmosphere, disturbing migrating/hibernating animals and risking surface erosion. All of these things are much more harmful to the country and to the human race than a handful of people getting shot in a theater.
Again, if you're going to invoke what people need, be prepared to go all the way.
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