Ask a British Person.......

[robbied196]

You guys don't have freedom of speech anymore in the UK do you?

Freedom of speech as in a democracy? As one of the world's oldest democracies people are very free to say what they want. We've had elected IRA MP's and British National Party MP's I'd say that represents the ability for people to say and do what they want.

 

[D-rock]

It always worries me when someone believes their own propoganda.

Ok, the other stuff I can somewhat understand, but can you come up with a reason to think America wasn't the first real major country in the world with something similar to the form of democracy and representation most Western nations have now, think of a reason it wasn't the first major country that had as many of the fundamental freedoms recognized and protected that most civilized non-totalitarian nations now take for granted, and think it didn't influence the spread of those ideals over the world more than any other place.

 

[robbied196]

Man, you guys really do hate America

:thumbsup: I love America, so lets clear that one up first

We were free before you ever were

History can answer that one

American Constitution September 17, 1787
Parliament of England 1215
Parliament of Great Britain 1707

 

[D-rock]

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History can answer that one

American Constitution September 17, 1787
Parliament of England 1215
Parliament of Great Britain 1707

The ancient Greeks technically had a form a democracy. With the exception of a small portion of the people that lived there it didn't mean most people were free.

 

[tittenman]

Main differences between Britain and America

We have some history you guys think you do.
We speak proper English you guys think you do too.

 

[SonOfSparda]

The ancient Greeks technically had a form a democracy. With the exception of a small portion of the people that lived there it didn't mean most people were free.

Yeh thats true, even the word Democracy is greek, Demos meaning the people. They used a voting system writing on broken clay but many people were unable to right due to lack of education so it never really worked. and they had an assembly to discuss actions the need to take place, it was a crude version of democracy but they held some of the principals in their ideas.

 

[om3ga]

Freedom of speech as in a democracy? As one of the world's oldest democracies people are very free to say what they want. We've had elected IRA MP's and British National Party MP's I'd say that represents the ability for people to say and do what they want.

We haven't elected MPs from the BNP (yet)...and I for one will hate to think what has become of the UK should we EVER elect any of those poisonous bigots...

 

[titsrock]

Man, you guys really do hate America and our religious, gun-toting establishment. That's what I'll never understand. We were free before you ever were and set the global standard for freedom and democracy with our establshment.

Ummm. Bloody, seriously? I think the British have had their fill of intertwining Christianity and Gov't--see Henry VIII, Queen Elizabeth, etc.

We are a couple of hundred years behind them in everything, basically...

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Ummm. Bloody, seriously? I think the British have had their fill of intertwining Christianity and Gov't--see Henry VIII, Queen Elizabeth, etc.

We are a couple of hundred years behind them in everything, basically...

"The colonies, to a stirking extent, drafted and enacted 'codes'--more or less systematic bodies of written law....The code also reflected...the 'traditional Puritan belief in the importance of the written word,' evidenced by ' literal use of the Bible as authority..."

Freidman, M., Lawrence, A History of American Law. (50-51).

Unfortunately, Titsrock, it is a myth that America was areligious when she was born and evolved into the Constitution. America and her colonies were very much so religious. We can get into Madison and Jefferson and the like during the Consitution period, but fact remains America was begun in many ways on Religious (i.e., Christian) doctrine.

 

[Ovidius]

The ancient Greeks technically had a form a democracy. With the exception of a small portion of the people that lived there it didn't mean most people were free.

And by "free" you mean exactly what? Is political participation on the national level a necessary condition for freedom? You must remember that national policies were much less encompassing in earlier times and that quite a few people had a meningful political participation on the local level, where it mattered in their daily lifes. Also note that the regulatory burden -- not to mention the financial one -- imposed by the government on the individual has increased dramatically.

So if you want to use the measuring stick to which you alluded the case can be made that freedom has actually decreased since the beginning of the democratic experiment in the colonies.

What was it that Mel's charachter said in The Patriot? Better one tyrant 3 000 miles away than 3 000 ones one mile away.

 

[Red Spyder]

What's wrong with your teeth?

 

[sproing99]

What's wrong with your teeth?

We're too busy being the biggest sluts in the world to visit the orthodontist.


Oh, and allegedly in Scotland, there used to be so much sugar in the diet that a traditional 21st birthday present was to have all your remaining teeth extracted and be presented with a handsome set of false teeth instead.

 

[marquis2]

What's wrong with your teeth?

There shouldn't be much wrong with them!
I'm with an excellent NHS dentist.A full course of treatment (your teeth are checked and all remedial work done ) is about £49 or just $75.

 

[PornKhaos]

What's wrong with your teeth?

Mine are perfectly fine , i really dont get why us folk are meant to have bad teeth, i dont see THAT many fucked up gums around when im out. Stereotype is a bitch.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Why is Top Gear so popular? And is Richard Hammond actually Davy Jones?

Follow up. What exactly is a Stig and who is in the suit?

 

[PornKhaos]

We haven't elected MPs from the BNP (yet)...and I for one will hate to think what has become of the UK should we EVER elect any of those poisonous bigots...

+1, i went to vote the other day and seen the BNP on the list, they would bring the UK down to a very low point.

 

[PornKhaos]

Why is Top Gear so popular? And is Richard Hammond actually Davy Jones?

Follow up. What exactly is a Stig and who is in the suit?

Top Gear is so popular because we love cars and Jeremy Clarkson's silly remarks .

Stig is the driver in the suit, nobody (apparently) knows who he is, he appeared from the depths of driving hell to show us humans how to really drive.

 

[SonOfSparda]

What's wrong with your teeth?

I've heard that one of our biggest irrational fears is the dentist, i don't know why, if you keep things cared for you don't have to worry about geting your teeth drilled out.

 

[DreamSparrow]

"The colonies, to a stirking extent, drafted and enacted 'codes'--more or less systematic bodies of written law....The code also reflected...the 'traditional Puritan belief in the importance of the written word,' evidenced by ' literal use of the Bible as authority..."

Freidman, M., Lawrence, A History of American Law. (50-51).

Unfortunately, Titsrock, it is a myth that America was areligious when she was born and evolved into the Constitution. America and her colonies were very much so religious. We can get into Madison and Jefferson and the like during the Consitution period, but fact remains America was begun in many ways on Religious (i.e., Christian) doctrine.

That's nice. It's a shame that there's so much explicit evidence to the contrary, isn't it?

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

This treaty was ratified unanimously by the Senate.

 

[titsrock]

Unfortunately, Titsrock, it is a myth that America was areligious when she was born and evolved into the Constitution. America and her colonies were very much so religious. We can get into Madison and Jefferson and the like during the Consitution period, but fact remains America was begun in many ways on Religious (i.e., Christian) doctrine.

Bloody, I didn't say the U.S. was anti-religious, anti-Christianity, etc. The Christian populations that founded America (New England, harharhar) were groups who were prosecuted in England. The Founding Fathers were a mixture of successful businessmen, politicians, and, wrote in religious protections, that whole separation of Church and State so the U.S. Govt wouldn't put to death people who practiced different kinds of religions. We should not allow you or me to simply found a deviant cult and call it a religion, but that's a separate issue.

Muslims did not flee their homelands or else we may have had Muslims and Sultans in the U.S, back in the Colonial days, and they would've been protected as the Christians were, right? Or would they not? Same with Japanese and Chinese--they aren't Christian, they didn't face religious persecution, hence, no reason to flee to America.:dunno: