4% of the bailout can end world hunger

It is a bad thing. Too many people take advantage of the systaem we have now. It's time to weed them out.




I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat. So, I don't know why that was needed? Winston Churchill, as much as people still want to believe, was never on our side. The Cold War was made up by Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin.
Read Michail Gorbachev's book Perestroika. We did not win the Cold War.
Churchill was a Freemason He became a Master Mason on March 5, 1902.
He was also a member of the Illuminati

The fact that too many people take advantage of a system does not imply a fault in its underlying principles.It's like saying that medicine is a bad thing because it enables criminals to survive.
The point I made was that he wasn't a Socialist yet he set the British welfare state on its path.It was regarded as a civilised thing rather than a Socialist one.In fact the most reluctant party to accept the proposals was Labour.He was also half American by the way.
I'm not sure what you mean by "not on our side"
 
africa a thriving colony? what the hell are you even talking about? first of all, africa is a continent with dozens of countries. maybe you realize that, maybe you don't.

Africa is a continent? When did THIS happen?!?!?! AMAZING!!!

You can try and mock my intelligence all you want, but, once again, just because I don't cite a million different facts about the history of the world doesn't mean that I don't know it.

Did you know that the continents used to be all connected to one another? Yeah, it's true. They actually have a name for it too. Pangea. Say it with me...PAN-GEE-UH.

Also, women used to not be able to vote in the United States. And, black people were slaves and white people forced them to do tedious manual labor. Oh, and this one is good too (I can't believe I almost forgot)...there was this guy named Jesus, who was the son of God, and he came to earth, taught people about The Lord and died for all of our sins. Isn't that whacky?!?!?!

PS - Ethiopia used to be one of the most dominating, thriving and ruling parts of Africa. But, look at it now. Ethiopia is full of genocide, corruption and starvation. If Ethiopia can change from a powerful society into a shithole, then so can the US. We aren't invincible.

explain to you why africa has many starving people? i kind have been doing that throughout the thread but apparently you are being willfully ignorant.

The only thing you have done is say "people are starving because we don't care and we don't feed them", rephrased in a hundred different ways. Just because you use a lot of words and throw out weak attempts at insults, doesn't mean that you are intelligent. If you were as smart as you would like to think you are, you would realize that Africa is spelled with a capital A. And, I should always be capitalized too. But, you're so smart, I bet you already knew that.
 
Africa is a continent? When did THIS happen?!?!?! AMAZING!!!

You can try and mock my intelligence all you want, but, once again, just because I don't cite a million different facts about the history of the world doesn't mean that I don't know it.

Did you know that the continents used to be all connected to one another? Yeah, it's true. They actually have a name for it too. Pangea. Say it with me...PAN-GEE-UH.

Also, women used to not be able to vote in the United States. And, black people were slaves and white people forced them to do tedious manual labor. Oh, and this one is good too (I can't believe I almost forgot)...there was this guy named Jesus, who was the son of God, and he came to earth, taught people about The Lord and died for all of our sins. Isn't that whacky?!?!?!

PS - Ethiopia used to be one of the most dominating, thriving and ruling parts of Africa. But, look at it now. Ethiopia is full of genocide, corruption and starvation. If Ethiopia can change from a powerful society into a shithole, then so can the US. We aren't invincible.



The only thing you have done is say "people are starving because we don't care and we don't feed them", rephrased in a hundred different ways. Just because you use a lot of words and throw out weak attempts at insults, doesn't mean that you are intelligent. If you were as smart as you would like to think you are, you would realize that Africa is spelled with a capital A. And, I should always be capitalized too. But, you're so smart, I bet you already knew that.

willful ignorance: The practice or act of intentional and blatant avoidance, disregard or disagreement with facts, empirical evidence and well-founded arguments because they oppose or contradict your own existing personal beliefs.

This practice is most commonly found in the political or religious ideologies of conservative Americans.

Many times it is practiced due to laziness--people not wanting to have to do the work to rethink their opinions, the fear of the unknown, the fear of being wrong, or sometimes simply close-mindedness.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
I'm not sure what you mean by "not on our side"

He was on the side of the people responsible for planning a one world government.
 
willful ignorance: The practice or act of intentional and blatant avoidance, disregard or disagreement with facts, empirical evidence and well-founded arguments because they oppose or contradict your own existing personal beliefs.

This practice is most commonly found in the political or religious ideologies of conservative Americans.

Many times it is practiced due to laziness--people not wanting to have to do the work to rethink their opinions, the fear of the unknown, the fear of being wrong, or sometimes simply close-mindedness.

Well, now that you're done accurately describing yourself, do you have anything else to say?
 
He (Winston Churchill) was also a member of the Illuminati

How do you figure that? He praised and brought public attention to the works of "historian" Nesta Webster, who was a major agitator in contemporary anti-masonic preaching and believer in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I have a book of hers that purports that the Illuminati are Jews trying to destroy the world through communism. You'd like it.

I suppose that Joe McCarthy was an illuminatus too?

PS. If you are to believe the also anti-masonic John Bitch Society (I mean Birch. A Freudian slip?), then America is secretly still under control of England, so that makes Churchill complacent in the conspiracy just by virtue of being British.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
How do you figure that? He praised and brought public attention to the works of "historian" Nesta Webster, who was a major agitator in contemporary anti-masonic preaching and believer in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I have a book of hers that purports that the Illuminati are Jews trying to destroy the world through communism. You'd like it.

I suppose that Joe McCarthy was an illuminatus too?

It's not the Jews. It's a group of people from different backgrounds.

They do not believe in the religions they say they do.
It's all an act. Like Bush saying he is a Christian.

McCarthy was correct when he said the American government had been infiltrated by Communists.

PS. If you are to believe the also anti-masonic John Bitch Society (I mean Birch. A Freudian slip?), then America is secretly still under control of England, so that makes Churchill complacent in the conspiracy just by virtue of being British.

John Birch Society. I'm not sure. I know they used to be a good group.
I'm not sure about them now.
I'll be looking into their group and activities soon enough.
 

Wainkerr99

Closed Account
In South Africa the Afrikaner built up an economy from scratch. That was so strong, that even now it is teetering on the brink of collapse - 14 years after Apartheid. Before that, the Zulu lived by moving his cattle across the land from one grazing to to another. He did not even bother to replant the grass. Under Shaka, who taught the nation to fight and become a nation, he learnt to battle the other nations. They were so strong that they almost stopped the immigrant Dutch/German/French settlers once for all.

The rest of the time he drank his phuza while the women planted corn.

That was then.

Even now the Sahara is encroaching on the South, something that could have been avoided. How the fuck any gov aid is going to affect African gov is beyond me.
They seem help bent on destroying their own people.

When aid is sent, it is often intercepted by a rebel force that is conquering thet rebel force that is trying to overthrow the government, such as it is.

The wealth in Africa is astonishing. Diamonds in the Congo. Platinum, silver, coal, trees, vanadium. The list is long.

The Jackson family wants to build a big hotel in Nigeria to near to where Negro slaves were led to captivity, to mark the suffering. That money could be better spent on food aid, and a comprehensive farming education programme.
This to me is utter stupidity at its Capitalist ignorant imbecilic finest.

I have to say I am stunned at the efficiency at which Portland as a city is run here in the U.S. If only the systems were in place even in South Africa that are working here. It is amazing. I, for one, am deeply grateful for help I received while unemployed, from financial aid to food parcels to guidance counseling on the work market.

I really hope some day I can somehow initiate a program of aid in Africa, even if it is in one small community.

In South Africa, since 1994, Black people have been studying, applying for good jobs, learning how to plan their work and work their plan. I read encouraging articles on Black small farmers, and business ventures.

Really I wonder how much education was given to African countries before. Anyway, stinky polluted trickles under the bridge.

One can do a small part. Often it is one person that makes a difference. One woman as far as I can remember began growing trees in the Amazon after they were plundered. All it takes is one person to make a difference. The rest will follow suite.

I know individual and corporate managers in South Africa have worked very hard on pushing employees to work efficiently, to put in the extra effort. This is how the economy survived in the infrastructure that was kept. If Zuma and his gang come into power, all that work may be lost, or again maybe he may listen to good advice. I can only hope the latter. If that happens, again, the rest of Africa might actually listen, especially as Zimbabwe is looking to South Africa for support. There may be hope yet.
 
He was on the side of the people responsible for planning a one world government.

Really? He was a founder member of the UN, along with FDR et al , but the UN was never contemplated as world government but as a forum where international tensions and disagreements could be thrashed out without resorting to war.
 
Really? He was a founder member of the UN, along with FDR et al , but the UN was never contemplated as world government but as a forum where international tensions and disagreements could be thrashed out without resorting to war.

Hadnt you heard marquis, the UN is the base of the "New World Order" and when we have a one world government thats where all the decisions are going to be made from, probably by the Rockefeller family or someone :dunno:.

So you see FDR and Churchill, were just pawns of the "elite" banking cartels that actually run this world and in setting up the UN they were actually putting into process the formation of a "One World Government" which will enslave us all using microchips and other such instuments of enslavement such as whips and heavy lifting in which we have to pray to their pagan Gods and eat nothing but beans.

Now marquis :nono: you should know better. Do some research....

:rofl2:
 
Hadnt you heard marquis, the UN is the base of the "New World Order" and when we have a one world government thats where all the decisions are going to be made from, probably by the Rockefeller family or someone :dunno:.

So you see FDR and Churchill, were just pawns of the "elite" banking cartels that actually run this world and in setting up the UN they were actually putting into process the formation of a "One World Government" which will enslave us all using microchips and other such instuments of enslavement such as whips and heavy lifting in which we have to pray to their pagan Gods and eat nothing but beans.

Now marquis :nono: you should know better. Do some research....

:rofl2:
There you are. I just thought the UN was a bunch of incompetents.But then, so are most governments.
 
There you are. I just thought the UN was a bunch of incompetents.But then, so are most governments.


That reminds me of all the people in the US you hear routinely bashing the UN as being rampantly corrupt or something as though the US govt and institutions were so lily clean and free of corruption.Or that the UN had any corner on incompetency as well.Overall they look like they are just as good if not better IMO.
 
The problem is ...

That reminds me of all the people in the US you hear routinely bashing the UN as being rampantly corrupt or something as though the US govt and institutions were so lily clean and free of corruption.Or that the UN had any corner on incompetency as well.Overall they look like they are just as good if not better IMO.
Have you seen the bar tab at the UN building in New York? Seriously. ;)

Although I don't think the UN itself is corrupt, I hope you do recognize that it's more of a paper form of representation with lots of falsehoods than a body that does anything well as a whole. There is a lot of grandstanding and self-interest going on, including in the Security Council.

But I do recognize that is not too much different than most governments, even the US at times. At the same time, it's the meeting and assembly of key representatives at the UN that does resolve issues. At least it is an avenue in that regard, and that's why I'm for the UN's existence.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Really? He was a founder member of the UN, along with FDR et al , but the UN was never contemplated as world government but as a forum where international tensions and disagreements could be thrashed out without resorting to war.

We all know how well that worked out. :yinyang:
 
Just because ...

We all know how well that worked out. :yinyang:
Just because some in the UN and because some Americans believe that every nation should not be sovereign and subject to the authority of the UN does not mean most Americans do.

The US still has a healthy number of civic-conscience citizens who recognize that separation of local v. state v. federal v. world powers is necessary. That may be at odds with some nations of the world, but here in the US -- even though many non-Americans cannot fathom the concept -- the US federal government does not hold authority over the US state governments.

The 10th Amendment, a major, defacto, default reason in the Bill of Rights why the supermajority of states finally agreed to the Constitution is still in full effect in the US. Only select, other Amendments have explicitly granted powers to the federal government over the states, and the US Supreme Court -- to this day -- enforces it as such.

That's why the US is strongly against the UN being of any, blanket jurisdiction over any nation, just like its own States are against the US federal in the same regard. If the US ever capitulated to such, you would see a cession of several states from the union and the formation of a new nation. I, for one, would move to such a state if my own was not one of them.

I'm not against the UN having some authority and, indeed, we have several terms the US is bound to and is taken to the World Courts for (among others). But it cannot be blanket. I know even Obama has the civic background to understand that (despite what some fools with their own agendas say), and I continue to respect him for such (among other leaders of this nation).
 
A lot of people seem to think that money can simply be transferred from one project to another , along the lines of "if we scrap one Trident submarine there will be enough money to build 20 hospitals" but in the real world this won't work for fairly obvious reasons. Neither are problems easily solved just by throwing money at them though our beloved government has certainly tried that approach.The problem is that much of the money misses the target.
 
this is completely false, how do you expect to turn money into food if there are not enough resources in the first place?
 
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