31 American troops killed in Afghan helicopter crash

Looks like it was shot down. RIP

31 American troops including 25 Seals killed in Afghanistan as helicopter crash causes worst loss of life since war began


* Highest number of U.S. casualties in one incident
* Seven Afghan soldiers die in the crash
* Taliban claims responsibility, claim yet to be confirmed



Twenty five Navy Seals and six other U.S special operations troops were killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistant last night - the worst single loss of life since the war began.

President Hamid Karzai sent his condolences to President Barack Obama, according to a statement issued by his office.

A team of Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden after entering his compound earlier this year.

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Tough transport chopper: A twin-rotor Chinook like the one that crashed


'A NATO helicopter crashed last night in Wardak province,' Karzai said in the statement, adding that 31 American special operations troops were killed.

'President Karzai expressed his deep condolences because of this incident and expressed his sympathy to Barack Obama.'

The Taliban claimed to have brought the helicopter down with a rocket attack, but they have been known to make exaggerated claims in the past.

NATO confirmed the overnight crash and said there 'was enemy activity in the area.'

But it said it was still investigating the cause.

The alliance was conducting a recovery operation at the site, it said, without releasing details or a casualty figure.

'We are aware of an incident involving a helicopter in eastern Afghanistan,' said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

'We are in the process of accessing the facts.'

The helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, which are used for transport, said an official at NATO headquarters in Brussels, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press, the Associated Press reports.

The helicopter crashed in the Sayd Abad district of Wardak province, said a provincial government spokesman, Shahidullah Shahid.

The volatile region borders the province of Kabul where the Afghan capital is located and is known for its strong Taliban presence.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said in a statement that NATO had attacked a house in Sayd Abad where insurgents were gathering Friday night, killing eight fighters.

The Taliban then downed the helicopter, he said.

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In June 2005, 16 American troops were killed when a U.S. helicopter crashed in eastern Kunar province after apparently being hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.

Aircraft crashes are relatively frequent in Afghanistan, where insecurity and difficult terrain make air travel essential for coalition forces transporting troops and equipment.

There have been at least 17 coalition and Afghan aircraft crashes in Afghanistan this year.

Most of the crashes are attributed to pilot errors, weather conditions or mechanical failures. However, the coalition has confirmed that at least one CH-47F Chinook helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade on July 25, injuring two crewmembers.

Meanwhile, NATO troops attacked a house and inadvertently killed eight members of a family, including women and children, in the southern Helmand province, an Afghan government official said Saturday.

NATO said Taliban fighters fired rocket propelled grenades and small arms at coalition troops during a patrol Friday in the Nad Ali district.

The troops fired back, and as the fight escalated an aistrike was called in against the Taliban position, said Brockhoff, the NATO spokesman.

He said NATO sent a delegation to meet with local leaders and investigate the incident.

Nad Ali district police chief Shadi Khan said civilians died in the bombardment but that it was unknown how many insurgents were killed.

Helmand, a Taliban stronghold, is the deadliest province in Afghanistan for international troops.

NATO has come under harsh criticism in the past for accidentally killing civilians during operations against suspected insurgents.

However, civilian death tallies by the United Nations show the insurgency is responsible for most war casualties involving non-combatants.

Also in the south, NATO said two coalition service member were killed, one on Friday and another on Saturday. The international alliance did not release further details.

The deaths bring to 334 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan, and 11 this month.



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1 point for the good guys, or is that 31. Nice to see some real enemy combatants get killed for once in this sham war, instead of some innocent women and children or an old man who was forced to take up arms because his country is being invaded by terrorists
 

Rane1071

For the EMPEROR!!
I wonder if it really was due to enemy fire. From what I've read and heard they're pretty rugged choppers. ..

Either way, those brave soldiers are still dead. Respect and RIP.
 
I wonder if it really was due to enemy fire. From what I've read and heard they're pretty rugged choppers. ..

Either way, those brave soldiers are still dead. Respect and RIP.
It's always tricky to establish the real causes for incidents like these, the US will be keen to avoid saying it was shot down as this will give a boost to the Taliban fighters as well as lowering the morale of coalition troops as well as swaying public opinion against the war, then again saying it was mechanical failure will also lower the morale of the troops. Also the Taliban will ALWAYS claim they shot the helicopter down if one crashes even if they were not there just to take credit and sway western public opinion against the war, sometimes the whole thing is just a propaganda battle but in this case it's more than likely the Taliban got a lucky shot in and for once it paid off.


1 point for the good guys, or is that 31. Nice to see some real enemy combatants get killed for once in this sham war, instead of some innocent women and children or an old man who was forced to take up arms because his country is being invaded by terrorists
Blame Bush and his cronies for the sham war and not the soldiers who are just doing their job, they were sent to a region where pretty much no one wanted them there, soldiers should only ever be sent where the local populus is in dire need of their help and would welcome their assistance with open arms, Afghanistan and Iraq are not such places.
 
1 point for the good guys, or is that 31. Nice to see some real enemy combatants get killed for once in this sham war, instead of some innocent women and children or an old man who was forced to take up arms because his country is being invaded by terrorists


I've known several who've seen combat and while they'd rather not be there, they pretty much tell me it is what it is and they are obligated to go.

I personally wouldn't want to be maimed by an IED so if I do ever enlist in the near future I'd want to test into IT or engineering or something. Don't get me wrong I'd love to be in combat, but some of the stories I've heard are pretty bad and there is a war on the home front anyway also.
 

Rane1071

For the EMPEROR!!
It's always tricky to establish the real causes for incidents like these, the US will be keen to avoid saying it was shot down as this will give a boost to the Taliban fighters as well as lowering the morale of coalition troops as well as swaying public opinion against the war, then again saying it was mechanical failure will also lower the morale of the troops. Also the Taliban will ALWAYS claim they shot the helicopter down if one crashes even if they were not there just to take credit and sway western public opinion against the war, sometimes the whole thing is just a propaganda battle but in this case it's more than likely the Taliban got a lucky shot in and for once it paid off.

Yeah, you're right. If the U.N troops came down with diarrhea the Taliban would claim they did it.
But from what I've heard and read (in that article and others), the weather and terrain over there can be just as dangerous as enemy fire. ..

You know, .. this article reminded me of a book I read years ago on the Falklands War. Where a chopper (a Sea King if memory serves) went down with a lot of S.A.S troopers on board. It was a tragic blow to the regiment because on board were a lot of veteran N.C.O's. ..

Sorry, Uly. A bit off topic ..
 
1 point for the good guys, or is that 31. Nice to see some real enemy combatants get killed for once in this sham war, instead of some innocent women and children or an old man who was forced to take up arms because his country is being invaded by terrorists

wait, he says this and all you guys have to say is blame bush or hey thats war. wtf guys. this ass clown just mocked and insulted 31 dead men. men who died needlessly, in a helo, completely unable to fight back (if they were indeed fired upon). hes fuckin praising the god damned taliban.

fuck you dude. i hope you get a bullet to the head real soon.
 
I've known several who've seen combat and while they'd rather not be there, they pretty much tell me it is what it is and they are obligated to go.

I personally wouldn't want to be maimed by an IED so if I do ever enlist in the near future I'd want to test into IT or engineering or something. Don't get me wrong I'd love to be in combat, but some of the stories I've heard are pretty bad and there is a war on the home front anyway also.
I think combat varies by campaign as well, soldiers that went into France in WW2 or Kosovo during the Balkans war were genuinley liberating people and were met with open arms, this would make you feel good as a soldier and also decrease the chances of you being attacked as the local people would look out for you, Afghanistan and Iraq are different as the locals don't want us there so not only are you fighting the 'insurgents' but also probably the general public, the guys you shake hands with during the day will be the same ones planting IEDs at night. The reason that so many coalition troops are getting hit by IEDs is that the ones planting them have a lot of public support and probably sleeper cells in the Afghan security forces, I would never fight in a war like that where we are in a foreign country and are seen by the people as invaders or oppressors, that war is more about politics and resources than a genuine humanitarian/liberation conflict.


Yeah, you're right. If the U.N troops came down with diarrhea the Taliban would claim they did it.
But from what I've heard and read (in that article and others), the weather and terrain over there can be just as dangerous as enemy fire. ..

You know, .. this article reminded me of a book I read years ago on the Falklands War. Where a chopper (a Sea King if memory serves) went down with a lot of S.A.S troopers on board. It was a tragic blow to the regiment because on board were a lot of veteran N.C.O's. ..

Sorry, Uly. A bit off topic ..
A thread doesn't go off topic until we start talking about Jews and Zionists :D
 
If the story about members of Seal Team 6 onboard are true, then this is horrible action has Pakistan written all over it.






Where Meg to offer his condolences to the fallen?
 
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If the story about members of Seal Team 6 onboard are true, then this is horrible action has Pakistan written all over it.






Where Meg to offer his condolences to the fallen?

Trying not to bump this thread. If the accounts are even half true then the ramifications are certainly not good at all and I would tend to agree with your conclusions...

But it's more preferred for me the thread dies down if half true than to offer my condolences about it here.:2 cents:

It's all over the media and they are reporting what they will report but it's not a topic I would like to see a back and forth on.

You understand...right?
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
President Hamid Karzai sent his condolences to President Barack Obama, according to a statement issued by his office.

sorry we shot down your bird and killed your people. Oh well, maybe that'll teach you to stick your nose in other peoples business!
 
Hmmmm. Not offering our fallen condolences.

You questioning whether I have condolences for this in light of everything I've posted on this board is about as nonsensical as you having a question about what I believe should happen to Hasan after all I've stated on this board in the way of the death penalty.

But why should I expect you to use deductive reasoning after all this time?

You can have the last word on this..have fun with it. I'll choose to express my condolences over this where it matters.
 
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