Yes, "Bangbus" is fake, BUT...
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squallumz
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sweet. ive been in the site. massive facials is a great EA movie. the first is much better than the second one though.
^Never seen it!
I was watching Gracie Glam in Performers Of The Year 2011 earlier today. Really Good Movie
I was watching Gracie Glam in Performers Of The Year 2011 earlier today. Really Good Movie
squallumz
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those "best ofs" are good. a great intro for a lot of people new to porn.
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Well, it seems the intellectual potential for this thread has petered out. I thought this would be a fascinating area to explore, given how many of us would love for a site such as Bangbus to be real, as much as we know it is not. And yet there are nagging questions that cause doubt, regarding some of the goings-on being at least semi-real.
For those who are interested and keeping track, allow me to add a few other points. First, a quick correction -- I had referred to an undercover newspaper reporter acting as a spy, but that turned out to be for a different newspaper article, where some Miami moralists were hoping to shut down Bangbus by taking their case to John Law. (The cops concluded the smut peddlers were conducting their wares legally.) This other article claimed, by the way, that the actresses' rate was only $700 (in the primary article, Lori's rate was $1,200, to be split between herself and her boyfriend, who also performed.) Damned cheap, ain't it? (Keep in mind the Bangbus rats justified not doing away with Lori's video by claiming her video had already made 50 grand for them.)
If anyone checked out the main newspaper article (here is the clean and original version), you may have been curious as to the identity of "Lori." My inner demon wished to know as well, and I have posted my findings at this other FreeOnes thread, Lori from Bangbus.
Lastly, I have discovered that the doing away of Bangbus videos is more extensive than I had realized. Here is a page that lists a few, but not all, of the ones that have joined the annals of history. It's pretty incredible, I think.
Anyway, I was excited to have discovered this motherload, because it's the earlier and sleazier episodes that I find more entertaining. Some of the videos on this list are still offered by the site, but have undergone mysterious changes.
For example, the "JJ" episode (May 8, 2002) as offered by the site ends around the blowjob segment - but we can see from the original that the hardcore action followed suit. So the site has made the decision to edit out the sex. Isn't that strange?
In addition, I see that the "Carolyn" episode (August 28, 2002) as currently offered by the site stands at around a half-hour. The explanation given was that "Ugs recorded himself masturbating again... What a dick!" The original ran just shy of an hour and twenty minutes -- nearly three times the length.
In the Miami New Times newspaper article, the Bangbus corporate lawyer logically informs, "Bangbus has everyone sign the same model release." You would think they would have definitely made sure to cross every T and dot every I, because of the thin ice they are operating on, under the FBI's watchful eyes.
So if this is the case, that there is no question they would have made sure to own the rights to everything, it's a huge riddle as to why the Bangbus operators would have felt so compelled to ditch or alter so many of their videos. Is it possible, as remote as it might be, that some of the girls involved could have been recruited unwittingly (that is, actually from "real life"), and the company took a chance with not getting the proper releases?
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Well, it seems the intellectual potential for this thread has petered out. I thought this would be a fascinating area to explore, given how many of us would love for a site such as Bangbus to be real, as much as we know it is not. And yet there are nagging questions that cause doubt, regarding some of the goings-on being at least semi-real.
For those who are interested and keeping track, allow me to add a few other points. First, a quick correction -- I had referred to an undercover newspaper reporter acting as a spy, but that turned out to be for a different newspaper article, where some Miami moralists were hoping to shut down Bangbus by taking their case to John Law. (The cops concluded the smut peddlers were conducting their wares legally.) This other article claimed, by the way, that the actresses' rate was only $700 (in the primary article, Lori's rate was $1,200, to be split between herself and her boyfriend, who also performed.) Damned cheap, ain't it? (Keep in mind the Bangbus rats justified not doing away with Lori's video by claiming her video had already made 50 grand for them.)
If anyone checked out the main newspaper article (here is the clean and original version), you may have been curious as to the identity of "Lori." My inner demon wished to know as well, and I have posted my findings at this other FreeOnes thread, Lori from Bangbus.
Lastly, I have discovered that the doing away of Bangbus videos is more extensive than I had realized. Here is a page that lists a few, but not all, of the ones that have joined the annals of history. It's pretty incredible, I think.
Anyway, I was excited to have discovered this motherload, because it's the earlier and sleazier episodes that I find more entertaining. Some of the videos on this list are still offered by the site, but have undergone mysterious changes.
For example, the "JJ" episode (May 8, 2002) as offered by the site ends around the blowjob segment - but we can see from the original that the hardcore action followed suit. So the site has made the decision to edit out the sex. Isn't that strange?
In addition, I see that the "Carolyn" episode (August 28, 2002) as currently offered by the site stands at around a half-hour. The explanation given was that "Ugs recorded himself masturbating again... What a dick!" The original ran just shy of an hour and twenty minutes -- nearly three times the length.
In the Miami New Times newspaper article, the Bangbus corporate lawyer logically informs, "Bangbus has everyone sign the same model release." You would think they would have definitely made sure to cross every T and dot every I, because of the thin ice they are operating on, under the FBI's watchful eyes.
So if this is the case, that there is no question they would have made sure to own the rights to everything, it's a huge riddle as to why the Bangbus operators would have felt so compelled to ditch or alter so many of their videos. Is it possible, as remote as it might be, that some of the girls involved could have been recruited unwittingly (that is, actually from "real life"), and the company took a chance with not getting the proper releases?
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Well I know alot of these sites do find girls 'off the street' with ads in certain papers and websites, most of these girls do it out of their free will and i'm sure (which is un fortunate) that some weak minded girls are 'forced' to do it to fulfill some sexual fantasy that their boyfriend has.
Its not really the sites fault for these as these girl come in under their on free will and sign the proper paperwork so its not the sites responsibility to look in and see why these girls want to do it nor do these sites force the girl to because they know for every girl that backs down there are 100 that will gladly take her spot!
Maybe some earlier videos had to be taken down because of bad paper work and I mean c'mon stuff like this will happen, mistakes will be made especially when it comes to paperwork!
Its not really the sites fault for these as these girl come in under their on free will and sign the proper paperwork so its not the sites responsibility to look in and see why these girls want to do it nor do these sites force the girl to because they know for every girl that backs down there are 100 that will gladly take her spot!
Maybe some earlier videos had to be taken down because of bad paper work and I mean c'mon stuff like this will happen, mistakes will be made especially when it comes to paperwork!
!!2257 is "Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2257
It's a bit more than just a 'standard model's release"
Thanks for the enlightenment, Knowone; "standard model's release" was the way the Bangbus lawyer termed it in the Miami New Times article. I suppose that term would be very applicable to those over 18. The 2257 primarily targets the protection of those under 18, very likely put into effect after the Tracy Lords debacle. Porn companies had better make sure their performers are 18 or over, otherwise the repercussions for the producers would be tantamount to a "death sentence."
There have been so many videos pulled from the Bangbus series, I'd doubt the problems would stem from accidentally having used underage women; no doubt the producers were being no less careful, even during their humble beginnings -- because they were well aware the punishment would have been severe. If there were mistakes with their standard paperwork (which may have caused doubt about whether the producers owned all of the rights or not), then these mistakes would have applied to all of the models they used with the same paperwork -- meaning there would have been a vast overhaul with their videos.
But you're absolutely right, Busaguy; I had mentioned the same point, that regardless of afterthoughts, we are all responsible for our decisions. It's not the site's obligation to remedy anything, but sometimes the human factor needs to be considered.
Isn't it a shame that too much porn-on-the-brain has stifled the less fortunate among us, regarding their intellectual curiosity. The issue isn't whether the porn sites like Bangbus have a tongue in their cheek with the videos they are producing, but why they would have removed so many of their videos -- which is serious business. But the brat who made his "who cares" comment is right in one respect; when something is a joke, who cares. And when someone goes out of his way to prove himself a joke, then that person similarly ceases to become relevant.
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There have been so many videos pulled from the Bangbus series, I'd doubt the problems would stem from accidentally having used underage women; no doubt the producers were being no less careful, even during their humble beginnings -- because they were well aware the punishment would have been severe. If there were mistakes with their standard paperwork (which may have caused doubt about whether the producers owned all of the rights or not), then these mistakes would have applied to all of the models they used with the same paperwork -- meaning there would have been a vast overhaul with their videos.
But you're absolutely right, Busaguy; I had mentioned the same point, that regardless of afterthoughts, we are all responsible for our decisions. It's not the site's obligation to remedy anything, but sometimes the human factor needs to be considered.
Isn't it a shame that too much porn-on-the-brain has stifled the less fortunate among us, regarding their intellectual curiosity. The issue isn't whether the porn sites like Bangbus have a tongue in their cheek with the videos they are producing, but why they would have removed so many of their videos -- which is serious business. But the brat who made his "who cares" comment is right in one respect; when something is a joke, who cares. And when someone goes out of his way to prove himself a joke, then that person similarly ceases to become relevant.
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Looks like that Kelly Bangbus episode is back on the site.
http://www.bangbros.com/t2/cfree=bangfree/profiles?m=Kelly1
I don't know what to think about why some videos are removed and then reappear again. Maybe technical issues on them constantly updating the site?
I'm pretty sure Kelly was of age when she did that bangbus video because her other video on the link was done almost the same time as the bangbus one and was never once removed.
http://www.bangbros.com/t2/cfree=bangfree/profiles?m=Kelly1
I don't know what to think about why some videos are removed and then reappear again. Maybe technical issues on them constantly updating the site?
I'm pretty sure Kelly was of age when she did that bangbus video because her other video on the link was done almost the same time as the bangbus one and was never once removed.
I understand it's fake, but can you explain to me how an "actor" getting his cock sucked by Yurizan Beltran doesn't become erect? That happened like 3 times when she rode the bus.
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