Why Obama and his minions are in a heap of trouble

[sean miguel]

conservative tribune > rachel maddow > the cucks who suck her dick

that estrogen tho.


I'll say it again - georges is our Gandalf. It's always darkest before the dawn.

 

[Straight Shooter]

They are in a much bigger pack of trouble than they think
https://conservativetribune.com/former-cia-director-perjured/

Trump Will Not Act Against Russia Because He Is Very Likely Being Blackmailed By Russia
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia

 

[Jack Davenport]

Trump Will Not Act Against Russia Because He Is Very Likely Being Blackmailed By Russia
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia

The BC hormone post index rates this “ Let’s just cuddle”.

 

[Johan]

I'll say it again - georges is our Gandalf. It's always darkest before the dawn.

Nope, he's our Mouth of Sauron :
he likes to play tough, he preys on the weaks, to weak minds he looks like he's a genius. But the wise, the strong-willed see him as what he is : a deceiver and a bully

 

[georges]

Nope, he's our Mouth of Sauron :
he likes to play tough, he preys on the weaks, to weak minds he looks like he's a genius. But the wise, the strong-willed see him as what he is : a deceiver and a bully

Hhahhaha keep on bullshitting as usual. The weak are the ones who voted for Obama twice then voted for Hillary Rotten Clinton. You forgot the Clinton and their body bag too with the too many unsolved and sucipious murders of people who should have testified against them. Oh yes the democrats are that irreproachable ? Please give me a break and spare me all the :lame: excuses I hear many years coming from democrats. And I will add that people who voted Hollande and then Macron are the ones who are absolute deceivers and desillusional idiots and alot of them are far to be the sharpest pencils in the box. I am glad that I don't belong to the left.

 

[sean miguel]

haha darth vader just got pwn3d.

 

[pool_hustler]

You forgot the Clinton and their body bag too with the too many unsolved and sucipious murders of people who should have testified against them.

Yes by all means BC and Fox, keep encouraging Georges to promulgate this kind of nonsense. It does so much for the overall credibility of conservatives

Tucker Carlson opened his Tuesday Fox News Channel program by offering his theory

Seems mighty convoluted (and in a couple of cases outright misleading).
How about this as a simple, direct explanation: a) Our IA's concluded Russia conducted a massive influence campaign aimed at helping elect Trump and b) as a natural outgrowth of that conclusion are investigating whether Trumpco participated in any way with that campaign, the end result of which c) none of us can be certain either way about from the vantage point of our individual armchairs.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Yes by all means BC and Fox, keep encouraging Georges to promulgate this kind of nonsense. It does so much for the overall credibility of conservatives



Seems mighty convoluted (and in a couple of cases outright misleading).
How about this as a simple, direct explanation: a) Our IA's concluded Russia conducted a massive influence campaign aimed at helping elect Trump and b) as a natural outgrowth of that conclusion are investigating whether Trumpco participated in any way with that campaign, the end result of which c) none of us can be certain either way about from the vantage point of our individual armchairs.

And why would they want to help Trump over Hillary Clinton? She gave them a nice reset button, brokered uranium for them was obviously on the take. It has been established that the only thing the Russians attempted to do was disrupt and they didn’t give a damn who won.

You’re gonna neeed to be put on suicide watch once Rosenstein shuts Mueller down, which by all indications he is planning to do.

 

[pool_hustler]

And why would they want to help Trump over Hillary Clinton? She gave them a nice reset button, brokered uranium for them was obviously on the take..

lol @ obviously on the take.

But let's just address your first question - why would they want to help Trump over Hillary Clinton? - which we've discussed before. What you consistently leave out is that starting in 2014, with the invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea, whatever flexibility she may have once felt towards Russia completely disintegrated as she evolved into a completely unyielding anti-Putin hawk.

And Putin reviles Clinton. That is a well known fact.

Had she won there isn't a chance in hell russian sanctions over anything would have been lifted. That hoped for action was to come from Mr. Trump, and based on Mr. Flynn's conversation with the russian ambassador was indeed proferred in exchange for Russian co-operation on two matters. You may recall Mr Putin uncharacteristically did not retaliate in response to Obama's sanctions related to election meddling. That seemed baffling at the time, but once we became aware of the content of Mr Flynn's conversations with the ambassador we understood why.

Unlike Trump, who won't even support his own party's near unanimous vote for expanded sanctions surrounding Russian election meddling, Clinton no doubt would have been leading that charge.

It has been established that the only thing the Russians attempted to do was disrupt and they didn’t give a damn who won..

Excuse me??? lol Where has that been established? On the contrary our IAs reached the conclusion the Russian influence campaign was aimed at both that AND at advancing Trump's chances. If you'd like I can post you a link to the official document stating as much.

 

[georges]

Yes by all means BC and Fox, keep encouraging Georges to promulgate this kind of nonsense. It does so much for the overall credibility of conservatives

Seems mighty convoluted (and in a couple of cases outright misleading).
How about this as a simple, direct explanation: a) Our IA's concluded Russia conducted a massive influence campaign aimed at helping elect Trump and b) as a natural outgrowth of that conclusion are investigating whether Trumpco participated in any way with that campaign, the end result of which c) none of us can be certain either way about from the vantage point of our individual armchairs.

Because the liberal's credibility is that high? Common give me a break. The Clintons are that honest and that irreproachable? Highly unlikely. The nonsense is praising Obama's presidency which did more bad than good. Do we have any real and air tight certainty that the libs haven't organized anything and aren't behind this? I think that no.There are news that we single individuals and honest citizens will never know because we aren't in the high spheres of the government. However the Obama's administration has been the worst and couldn't be trusted since the begining.

 

[georges]

Another one from the Obama administration that made a perjury
https://www.westernjournal.com/near...fficial-still-hasnt-charged-perjury-congress/

 

[Jack Davenport]

Well, Mueller has a few Russian scalps that will never step foot in an American court. And after the Manafort railroading, the proverbial “ham sandwich” will finally have its day in court.

If Mueller wanted an indictment against a foreign national, he could have started with Christopher Steele.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/17/infamous-steele-anti-trump-dossier-disproven-muell/

No worries though, the coming legitimate special counsel will get around to it.

 

[sean miguel]

Congrats, Mueller indicted 13 russian internet trolls.


they suck. the left. not russian internet trolls.


and haven't the russians/soviets been up to this stuff here since the 1920s? Spreading misinformation, sowing discord? This is somehow news? Of course it is, because the unthinkable came to pass.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Congrats, Mueller indicted 13 russian internet trolls.


they suck. the left. not russian internet trolls.


and haven't the russians/soviets been up to this stuff here since the 1920s? Spreading misinformation, sowing discord? This is somehow news? Of course it is, because the unthinkable came to pass.

And we have been doing the same thing. The indictments actually cite “ Disparagement of Hillary Clinton” as a count.

If disparaging Hillary Clinton is a crime, then I should get the death penalty.

 

[sean miguel]

And we have been doing the same thing. The indictments actually cite “ Disparagement of Hillary Clinton” as a count.

Exactly. As well as the Chinese.

Gray Zone warfare.

 

[ChuckFaze]

Congrats, Mueller indicted 13 russian internet trolls.


they suck. the left. not russian internet trolls.


and haven't the russians/soviets been up to this stuff here since the 1920s? Spreading misinformation, sowing discord? This is somehow news? Of course it is, because the unthinkable came to pass.

:rofl: Internet trolls :rofl2: That's exactly what came to my mind as well. Well, that and Scooby Doo indictments. You know ... given how they constantly mention that the Russians "MEDDLED" in the election, not that they CHANGED the outcome of the election. C'mon! Whatever Internet trolling BS they engaged in did not change anyone's vote.

Heck, Pelosi engaged in more political meddling with her 8-hour plus speech stunt the other day ... than any meddling the Russian trolls did.

 

[pool_hustler]

Whatever Internet trolling BS they engaged in did not change anyone's vote.

Well, once again, there's no way you possibly know that :dunno:
Actually it's nonsensical to think none were considering the enormous demographic of moderates/undecideds who generally swing a presidential election, and who would be the most vulnerable to a massive, targeted influence campaign.
And if one doesn't think the strategically released wikileaks dumps influenced anyone's votes they're living in a complete fantasy world.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Mitt Romney and John McCain won the moderate vote.
So much for the election swinging power of the moderates.

 

[ChuckFaze]

I think it would be living in a fantasy world to think that if you were to take those 13 Russian's Internet trolling away, Hillary would have won. Or that she would have even gotten extremely seriously closer to having won. There are way more solid things that affected / dictated the election outcome.

Heck, a gazillion Trump detractors ripped him to shreds via Internet, countless protests and what have you and he still won. So I just don't see 13 Russians having made that much of a difference as far as undermining Hillary Clinton's in the bag destiny of winning the election.

In other words, if there was meddling, it was very much a two way street.

 

[pool_hustler]

Mitt Romney and John McCain won the moderate vote.
So much for the election swinging power of the moderates.

Both ran against an enormously popular candidate [among dems] but managed to put up a good fight. Both were hindered some by lack of support from NEVER A RINO bitter enders on the right. Let's discuss how badly they would have been beaten without that moderate vote.
I have a feeling you know what I said is generally true.

I think it would be living in a fantasy world to think that if you were to take those 13 Russian's Internet trolling away, Hillary would have won.

I don't see anybody claiming that. Obviously there's no way to quantify precisely what impact those 13 had, or more to the point what the combined impact of ALL the elements of Russia's influence campaign had. But there's no question it had an impact. Enough to cost her the election? We'll never know for sure, but in such a razor thin decision quite possibly.

Particularly combined with the re-opening of her email investigation just two weeks before election day.

And for those who might contend it wasn't razor thin, let's remember that a) she won the popular vote and b) Trump won the three critical electoral college states that tipped the election by 77,000 votes combined, including by a mere 10,000 (or .2%) in Michigan.