Why isn't football / soccer that popular in North America, United States / USA ?

Why isn't Soccer popular in America?


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I agree that boxing could be one of the easiest sports to take up, but it would definetly be one of the most difficult to master, as there is the extremely brutal beating you take to the face and cranium, which no sport can rival.
 
To sum up the misconceptions of American Sports:

American Football is a super violent sport. Without pads, most players would not last a single game. Yes, Rugby is violent (and I love Australian Rules Football as well) but when you have a 300 pound guy that runs just as fast as a guy who weighs 220 pounds and wants to kill him on every play.....
Take this formation: Jacksonville Jaguars line up in a goal line formation and include the following players.
K.Barnes: 6'5 325 (left Tackle)
V.Manuwai: 6'2 336 (left guard)
B.Meester: 6'3 295 (center)
C.Naole: 6'3 328 (right guard)
T.Pashos: 6'6 325 (right tackle)
M.Stroud: 6'6 310 (usually plays defense, plays Tight End on this play)
J.Henderson: 6'7 335 (usually plays defense, plays Tight End on this play)
G.Estandia: 6'8 265 (Tight End)
G.Jones: 6'1 254 (Fullback)
F.Taylor: 6'1 228 (half back)
D.Garrard: 6'1 245 (quaterback)
That is just the offense, their combined weight on this play is 3246 pounds. Nowhere else do you get that kind of human mass hellbent on moving a leather bound ball. The defense will man about 2500-3500 pounds themselves to stop this play.




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These figures are not very different from the line up of the present England rugby team.
 
Exactly. That's my point. There's no real way to evaluate all sports based on skill level. The group of academics ESPN cobbled together might as well study the rule books of each sport and come to their conclusions.

I looked at the results of their study, saw GOLF listed near the bottom and came to conclusion that nobody on that panel has ever played golf before in their lives...


Golf does not require these: ENDURANCE, SPEED, NERVE and DURABILITY. I played Golf for 10 year's and I noticed it is quite popular with 60+ year old people that hardly make them a athlete like a Soccer player or a one in Gymnastics.
 

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I can't stand football - too many damned stoppages during play. Too many "flags", too many rules and a little too much "direction", know what I mean? It's nearly not as "spontaneous" as a sport ought to be. You have 4 quarters of 15 minutes each and it takes hours to fucking play.

Exactly my opinion on US Football. Glad it came from an American.


That is why Football players can be so fat and out of shape, they only have to run for a couple of seconds and then they get to stop and get their breath back. They just don't seem like athletes to me... (Generalizing)
 
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Golf does not require these: ENDURANCE, SPEED, NERVE and DURABILITY. I played Golf for 10 year's and I noticed it is quite popular with 60+ year old people that hardly make them a athlete like a Soccer player or a one in Gymnastics.

60 yr old bluehairs play it to hang out with their buddies or get drunk. They aren't trying to be all that competitive at it, all things considered.

Golf is a very difficult sport to play if you're competitive. I played it myself, practiced a lot and couldn't break 85 consistently.
 
Ok, it takes nerve.

It still doesnt take speed or durability.

And it takes a little endurance. Walking 18 holes is easy if you are in decent shape, but most recreational golfers cant.
 
Too easy!

Because it's incompatible with our advertising approach -- regular game stoppage allows this.
 
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I agree that boxing could be one of the easiest sports to take up, but it would definetly be one of the most difficult to master, as there is the extremely brutal beating you take to the face and cranium, which no sport can rival.

Right I'll put this into the simple terms for you here.

Put a marshal artist into a ring with a boxer and see just how long the boxer lasts. Pound for Pound that is or even a slight weight difference in the boxers favour if you want.

As I said before, boxing isn't difficult or demanding. A marshal art is, in both mind and body. Especially if you compete in it. I speak from experience having done both. All that boxing really is barbaric compared to most other fighting forms.

Usually people who disagree when they say it is the most physical sport are the ones who have either only ever done that or not done it at all. If you try different forms of fighting styles you'll soon see that for yourself. Because the only thing boxing can say it has over other's is endurance. But half the time you don't even need that.
 

McRocket

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Right I'll put this into the simple terms for you here.

Put a marshal artist into a ring with a boxer and see just how long the boxer lasts. Pound for Pound that is or even a slight weight difference in the boxers favour if you want.

As I said before, boxing isn't difficult or demanding. A marshal art is, in both mind and body. Especially if you compete in it. I speak from experience having done both. All that boxing really is barbaric compared to most other fighting forms.

Usually people who disagree when they say it is the most physical sport are the ones who have either only ever done that or not done it at all. If you try different forms of fighting styles you'll soon see that for yourself. Because the only thing boxing can say it has over other's is endurance. But half the time you don't even need that.

You crack me up.

I agree with dave rhino 100%.

Boxing isn't demanding? You think those boxers that you see collapse in KO's/TKO's quit because they are bored? They are physically not capable of performing any longer.


And, BTW, I am not sure your comments poggy are consistent with the subject of this thread.
I only mention this because you seem to be big on yourself (and others) following board rules/guidelines.
But maybe I am wrong.


Have a nice day.
 
people are going to think this is some kind of porno topic the longer this thread goes
 
This thread is fast becoming "irrelevant" thanks to all the silly comments based on subjective notions claiming to be objective fact....

Is Boxing "easier" than Baseball?
Is F1 racing "easier" than Tae-Kwon-Do?
Is Soccer "easier" than (American) Football?
Is Poker "easier" than Blackjack?
Is playing Drums "easier" than Saxophone?
Is being an actor "easier" than being a musician?

ad nauseum. ad infinitum

cheers,
 

McRocket

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BTW - I liked the idea behind the subject in this thread.
I thought it was an interesting question.

I explained my thinking earlier.

But another answer?

Americans are more take charge kind of people then Europeans in general. And the average American is far more powerful then the average European (both in the power of their country, their economic wealth and their individual personal freedoms). And with that added power comes an added desire to control his/her surroundings. I believe American football and baseball offer that more then soccer does. They are far more hands on sports to the average fan then soccer is - at least in appearance.
There is little 'armchair quarterbacking' in soccer. You just sit and watch it flow. Neither baseball or American football could ever be called games that flow. They are a series of starts and stops lasting usually under 30 seconds. With, IMO, coaches/managers playing a far larger part in these major Americans sports then coaches do in soccer (no doubt many soccer lovers will disagree with me).

And because of Canada's proximity to America, we have taken up many of there ways and television likes (as US television dominate Canadians).
 
BTW - I liked the idea behind the subject in this thread.
I thought it was an interesting question.

I explained my thinking earlier.

But another answer?

Americans are more take charge kind of people then Europeans in general. And the average American is far more powerful then the average European (both in the power of their country, their economic wealth and their individual personal freedoms). And with that added power comes an added desire to control his/her surroundings. I believe American football and baseball offer that more then soccer does. They are far more hands on sports to the average fan then soccer is - at least in appearance.
There is little 'armchair quarterbacking' in soccer. You just sit and watch it flow. Neither baseball or American football could ever be called games that flow. They are a series of starts and stops lasting usually under 30 seconds. With, IMO, coaches/managers playing a far larger part in these major Americans sports then coaches do in soccer (no doubt many soccer lovers will disagree with me).

And because of Canada's proximity to America, we have taken up many of there ways and television likes (as US television dominate Canadians).

Nobody is going to argue with the power of America but there are several European countries where average wealth is far higher than in the US.Even the UK citizen is roughly on a par (difficult to tell because of the weak dollar) with our American friends.And individual personal freedoms? I can't own a gun but I can drive with an open container of alcohol in my car!
 

McRocket

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Nobody is going to argue with the power of America but there are several European countries where average wealth is far higher than in the US.Even the UK citizen is roughly on a par (difficult to tell because of the weak dollar) with our American friends.And individual personal freedoms? I can't own a gun but I can drive with an open container of alcohol in my car!

From the CIA World Fact Book:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/

country GDP per capita:

United States - $43,800

United Kingdon - $31,800
France - $31,200
Germany - $31,900
Italy - $30,200
The European Union - $29,900

That means the average American makes almost 50% more per year then the average European.

And the only two countries that I can see that have a higher per capita GDP then the US are Luxembourg and Norway. But their combined populations of under 5 million people are barely 1% of the EU's 490+ million people.
 
With, IMO, coaches/managers playing a far larger part in these major Americans sports then coaches do in soccer (no doubt many soccer lovers will disagree with me).

I'm a soccer lover and I totally agree with this statement. The Big 4 American Sports make Coach/Manager public displays of official abuse part of the sport. I find it refreshing that I can watch a professional/college soccer game and the coach just sits on the bench, watching the game and trying to figure out what changes he/she needs to make or whatever. The soccer coach also talks to players--this happens on the college level more then EPL/MLS level.

Professional soccer coaches leave their "official abuse" to the post-game interview, which is where it belongs.

American sports are kind of pathetic on this point. Take last night's football game between South Florida and Rutgers. The South Florida coach made a complete asshat of himself by publically melting down to the officials and, even worse, his own players. I think he knew that his shot to a better, high profile/higher paying job rested with beating Rutgers and he was going to scream at his players and the officials no matter the cost.

Baseball managers, football coaches, basketball coaches are so conditioned to abuse the refs that it's not even a cliche to see it anymore...it's simply an annoyance.

Soccer's problem is letting players abuse refs. I hope Refs start tossing more players out of games to keep the abuse in check.
 
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