Why isn't football / soccer that popular in North America, United States / USA ?

Why isn't Soccer popular in America?


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nightwanker

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Re: Judging by the length of some of the responses....

[...] This is only half correct.
[...] You're all over the place here. Many topics blending into one another I will respond to most of them... [...]
Thank You for Your answers and comments. As I said before, I don't want to offend with what I write.
I just try to write down some hear say and smattering, so that someone who knows better can tell me a bit more about it.
 
ESPN doesn't have much credibility. It's entertainment-oriented when it isn't promoting its own sports coverage.

The only way to put a panel together is to find a group of people who have excelled in all of these sports.

Soccer is not the hardest sport to play. It certainly requires more endurance and athleticism then baseball.

Did you look at the panel? Only a few work with ESPN...

"But don't take our word for it. Take the word of our panel of experts, a group made up of sports scientists from the United States Olympic Committee, of academicians who study the science of muscles and movement, of a star two-sport athlete, and of journalists who spend their professional lives watching athletes succeed and fail. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=degree/bios

If you ask a baseball player they will tell you one thing and a soccer player another. You need to have some kind of unbaised study of all the sports with people with both academic and sports backgrounds.

How are you every going to find a soccer/curling/figure skating/wrestling athlete? Based on your statement?
 
soccer is not difficult to play especially when you have enough experience, it's more demanding than difficult and even that depends on your position. Besides, once you build up your stamina good enough, even a full game isn't hard to get through sometimes. I understand that soccer isn't a terribly difficult sport but you have to have a real reason to say that. You have to know what the fuck your talking about.
*not talking to e-ann,*
 
To sum up the misconceptions of American Sports:

American Football is a super violent sport. Without pads, most players would not last a single game. Yes, Rugby is violent (and I love Australian Rules Football as well) but when you have a 300 pound guy that runs just as fast as a guy who weighs 220 pounds and wants to kill him on every play.....
Take this formation: Jacksonville Jaguars line up in a goal line formation and include the following players.
K.Barnes: 6'5 325 (left Tackle)
V.Manuwai: 6'2 336 (left guard)
B.Meester: 6'3 295 (center)
C.Naole: 6'3 328 (right guard)
T.Pashos: 6'6 325 (right tackle)
M.Stroud: 6'6 310 (usually plays defense, plays Tight End on this play)
J.Henderson: 6'7 335 (usually plays defense, plays Tight End on this play)
G.Estandia: 6'8 265 (Tight End)
G.Jones: 6'1 254 (Fullback)
F.Taylor: 6'1 228 (half back)
D.Garrard: 6'1 245 (quaterback)
That is just the offense, their combined weight on this play is 3246 pounds. Nowhere else do you get that kind of human mass hellbent on moving a leather bound ball. The defense will man about 2500-3500 pounds themselves to stop this play.

Baseball: It has taken years for other nations to catch up to the skills needed to play. Funny that the majority of Cuba loves baseball (Cuba's national sport) Same with many South American Countries, rivaling soccer in many areas.

Basketball, NBA is not a finesse game. Think Shaq is just a jump shooter?

Hockey, I love amateur hockey, its more fun than NHL level is. More hits, more fun, more action in my opinion.

I love World Cup action, and do think that there are athletes in soccer. However, those that assume that American sports suck need to open their eyes.
 
Baseball: It has taken years for other nations to catch up to the skills needed to play. Funny that the majority of Cuba loves baseball (Cuba's national sport) Same with many South American Countries, rivaling soccer in many areas.

I believe baseball is growing there because it's another way out of their tents and huts and shit, not because they like it more or less than they like soccer.

Now, if you can't cut it at soccer over there... you still got a shot at baseball
 
You go hit the spherical ball with the round stick, solidly, and then you can tell me baseball is less athletic than soccer.

If you can run alot, go play soccer.

Baseball is and always will be far more skill oriented than most sports. It requires more fine motor skills where sports like soccer need gross motor skills.

If you can stand, scratch your balls, spit tobacco....you can play professional baseball. When a success rate of 3 out of 10 gets you in the Hall of Fame..the "skill" is not so much skill as capitalizing on LUCK or waiting for a shitty pitch.

Baseball's "skill sets" are completely overrated especially when one considers the "skills" needed to play an outfield position.

Maybe try watching and playing some soccer before you decide it's nothing more then running.
 
As Nightwanker wrote: I don't want to offend anybody either but what a useless boring study made by a TV channel that has nothing to talk about.
What are we supposed to do with that ? Become boxing fans?

Do you care about things like :
FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers. Are they smoking them after stretching them?
NERVE: The ability to overcome fear. Example: High-board divers, race-car drivers, ski jumpers. I didn't know this was an athletic (physical) skill???
POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: Barry Bonds. :confused:First : Does that include the use of steroids ? If not, the capcaity to produce power will drop down quite seriously. Second: How can they compare hitting a baseball with a bat and hitting a soccer ball with a foot ? Baseball gets 2.5 more points!!! To have played both sports, I know you need much less power to look powerful when you hit a baseball than when you hit a soccer ball. BTW, since these guys go to the plate 4 to 5 times a match, the rest of the time that power is useless, so it should lower their score. This is a skill that a player uses not even 10 minutes in a more than 2-hour game.
Same example below.
ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example :Joe Montana reading a defense; basketball point guard on a fast break. A quaterback. :mad:There is one quarterback per team (even if he is replaced, it is still one quarterback). Do the linebackers (offense and defense) need that skill? No! So they give a high score to a sport for a skill that only one player out of 25 uses! That's ridiculous. In soccer they all need that skill, they should get much higher points.

And we could go on and on like this on about every point.

Didi you notice that all the examples given (but for 3 exceptions) are all Americans (Montana, Armstrong, Bonds, or football linebackers, basketball, etc...) ? So the others are compare to these standards ?

As I wrote, this is the kind of useless and absolutely non-professional studies that TV shows or popular magazines do. It has the same credibility than the studies Cosmopolitan do on women and sexuallity (Do you kiss your man on the lips or somewhere else?)

This is simply useless !

Every sport has his own difficulties, to rate them like this is ridiculous.

And by the way, after boxing, on all these questions RUGBY should be second!
 
iTS SIMPLER THAN YOUMIGHT THINK. The same reson why baseball and american footnall are not popular in Europe-- habit and familiarity. Also since my father came from europe he took little interest in sports of USA. As a result I followed his example and ingored sports of USA
 
As Nightwanker wrote: I don't want to offend anybody either but what a useless boring study made by a TV channel that has nothing to talk about.
What are we supposed to do with that ? Become boxing fans?

Do you care about things like :
FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers. Are they smoking them after stretching them?
NERVE: The ability to overcome fear. Example: High-board divers, race-car drivers, ski jumpers. I didn't know this was an athletic (physical) skill???
POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: Barry Bonds. :confused:First : Does that include the use of steroids ? If not, the capcaity to produce power will drop down quite seriously. Second: How can they compare hitting a baseball with a bat and hitting a soccer ball with a foot ? Baseball gets 2.5 more points!!! To have played both sports, I know you need much less power to look powerful when you hit a baseball than when you hit a soccer ball. BTW, since these guys go to the plate 4 to 5 times a match, the rest of the time that power is useless, so it should lower their score. This is a skill that a player uses not even 10 minutes in a more than 2-hour game.
Same example below.
ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example :Joe Montana reading a defense; basketball point guard on a fast break. A quaterback. :mad:There is one quarterback per team (even if he is replaced, it is still one quarterback). Do the linebackers (offense and defense) need that skill? No! So they give a high score to a sport for a skill that only one player out of 25 uses! That's ridiculous. In soccer they all need that skill, they should get much higher points.

And we could go on and on like this on about every point.

Didi you notice that all the examples given (but for 3 exceptions) are all Americans (Montana, Armstrong, Bonds, or football linebackers, basketball, etc...) ? So the others are compare to these standards ?

As I wrote, this is the kind of useless and absolutely non-professional studies that TV shows or popular magazines do. It has the same credibility than the studies Cosmopolitan do on women and sexuallity (Do you kiss your man on the lips or somewhere else?)

This is simply useless !

Every sport has his own difficulties, to rate them like this is ridiculous.

And by the way, after boxing, on all these questions RUGBY should be second!

exactly, what the fuck is that. it's bullshit stats they just applied to every sport they wanted to talk about. Who says what they say is king.
 
How are you every going to find a soccer/curling/figure skating/wrestling athlete? Based on your statement?
Exactly. That's my point. There's no real way to evaluate all sports based on skill level. The group of academics ESPN cobbled together might as well study the rule books of each sport and come to their conclusions.

I looked at the results of their study, saw GOLF listed near the bottom and came to conclusion that nobody on that panel has ever played golf before in their lives...
 
not even close,

boxing=fighting for your life
gymnastics=pointless bullshit

Boxing requires more endurance, strength, mental toughness, why am i even comparing boxing to gymnastics
 
Slik..why don't you go into the gym, jump up and grab the rings...and see how close you can come to executing an "iron cross"

My sister was into gymnastics when we grew up. I've seen enough Men's Gymnastics and Boxing to know that Gymnastics--while not the greatest sport in the world--is not exactly bullshit.
 
so you're trying to say gymnastics is just as, and maybe more challenging than boxing
 
I am not arguing that Gymnastics--either Men's or Women's is a great sport. I think Women's gymnastics is one of the most globally exploited sports..now that I think about it.

But..

Slik...you said this:
Boxing requires more endurance, strength, mental toughness
And based on what I know about Gymnastics...the strength, mental toughness and endurance required to do the skills that elite gymnasts do with ease...I'm not sure gymnastics should be dismissed so easily.

I'm honestly trying to figure out, based on all the boxing I've seen, why it is considered a difficult sport based on the experts ESPN has put together. I'd have to go with Boxing being one of the more simpler sports to master, to be honest.
 
that espn stat is bullshit.


"I'd have to go with Boxing being one of the more simpler sports to master"
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

this needs to move to another thread, it's off-topic but "I'd have to go with Boxing being one of the more simpler sports to master"
:laugh:
 
You go hit the spherical ball with the round stick, solidly, and then you can tell me baseball is less athletic than soccer.

If you can run alot, go play soccer.

Baseball is and always will be far more skill oriented than most sports. It requires more fine motor skills where sports like soccer need gross motor skills.

But not compared with cricket!In baseball the batter only faces a few balls which might curve a bit and be hard to hit but in cricket you stay until you're out which might be 2 days or more! And in cricket the ball strikes the ground unpredictably so the batsman might have to face a ball which curves in the air. kicks off the pitch,maybe at an angle, and curves in the air again. Some bowlers can reverse swing the ball as well. If a fast ball is directed straight at the batsman he has a split second to take avoiding action.Nasty if it's coming in at head height!And with cricket after 6 balls they change bowlers and the batsman has to face an entirely different style.Batting requires intense concentration often for hours on end.
 
Well here is analysis by ESPN, pretty reputable site.

Top 5 Sports difficulty ratings

1) Boxing
2) Ice Hockey
3) Football
4) Basketball
5) Wrestling

10) Soccer

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

No doubt any major league sports takes quite a bit of talent, skill and athletic ability, but Soccer is not the top in my book either.

LOL!

Boxing number one. Yes stand in the middle of a square ring hitting someone is difficult:rolleyes:

Just proves to me what I always thought of ESPN.

Well seen as I've done 4 out of the 6 of them shown. Boxing would come bottom. Plus which wrestling we taking. Because if it's the none entertainment then I can really laugh. As I said just running backwards and forwards bouncing a ball isn't hard. As that is what basketball is.

I'm guessing this was done on a survey of there viewers. Which means that they will pick there favourite sports mainly. With this been a American company, football would always come out low. As half of them haven't played proper football.

One more question then.

Where is Karate?

As that is harder than all these! As is quite a few others I could name.
 
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