why is porn legal when Prostitution isnt?

[jibbijib]

As I understand it, there is also no German word for 'comfy'. This AND the absence of Freeones is very suspicious, und ein wenig unheimlich.

That said, I do love Germany. Lived there, vacationed there, worked there, drunk a LOT of beer there.

And it's interesting to see how different cultures approach drawing lines of what is and isn't morally and/or legally acceptable in their culture.

In Germany, Freeones ...... NO!
Some enormous chick offering to bang you in the ass with a dildo the size of a Buick while she's sat in a store window!...... perfectly OK. Please proceed.

Each culture has its logical dichotomies when it comes to sex and the policing of sex.

In Germany it's the way they define 'available' in terms of the potential for the corruption of the morals of minors (rhymey!)

In many Arabic countries it's illegal to commit adultery: so most brothels have an in-house Imam to marry the John to the hooker and then annul the marriage after he's done with her. Just to keep things all nice and moral.

In the UK it's not a crime (or at least it wasn't when I was there) to solicit a prostitute, but it is a crime to respond to a solicitation. (surprise - it's the woman that ends up with a criminal record). It's not against the law to sell comics and skin mags in the same rack - as long as the mags are out of reach of children (good job eyes can't see past the end of our arms)

I'd be interested if anyone else has examples of this kind of nonsense from around the big, blue world?

In conclusion, Canada is awesome.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

In conclusion, Canada is awesome.

Better couldn't have it myself said!

In support of counsel's opening statement, I'd like to offer this into evidence as proof of awesomeness:

http://www.freeones.com/search/?q=&...tiontype=search&advancedsubmitnow=Search+Babe


CASE CLOSED

 

[Kaz B]

Ok, that does it! Im moving to UK!

Hee hee!

Independent escorts are legal, as are agencies that state that the client is paying for the escorts time (and what they do in that time is up to them.)

Brothels here are illegal.

If it was all legalised there would be a lot less sex trafficking and a lot less women on the streets. Same with pot and so on.......

It's often the case that making something illegal therefore makes it more dangerous.

 

[Kaz B]

Oh and there are a whole lot of right wing Christian groups in the UD campaiging and against porn and anti-pornography groups.

Due to our culture in the UK, porn and prostitution is gradually becoming more accepted and porn is popular with men, females and couples. During my 6 years in the industry here the media has become increasingly intrigued and favourable towards porn and escorts....

Unless of course you read the Daily Mail - a paper that throwns on sexual expression, porn, and also write articles along the lines of "lettuce gives you cancer"

*sigh*

 

[izabelplayer]

because politicians want it that way.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

I blame the church they want to be the only ones fuckin with you.

 

[TaylorVixenFan]

this is a damn good question

 

[johnny debt]

Prostitution isn't illegal in England.
It's just illegal to run a massage parlour but in most parts of the UK especially Manchester
the police turn a blind eye to it and it is tolerated,unless Human Trafficking is taking place or there working on the street.
Prostitution and Porn are much the same really
they both get payed to have sex with people
a number of pornstars have and do work as escorts
I don't see the moral outrage towards Prostitutes really
I think people believe the media hype to much
and also furthermore believe there all streetwalking crack heads
which is not true,most prostitutes in uk work in massage parlours or as escorts.

 

[johnny debt]

Oh and there are a whole lot of right wing Christian groups in the UD campaiging and against porn and anti-pornography groups.

Due to our culture in the UK, porn and prostitution is gradually becoming more accepted and porn is popular with men, females and couples. During my 6 years in the industry here the media has become increasingly intrigued and favourable towards porn and escorts....

Unless of course you read the Daily Mail - a paper that throwns on sexual expression, porn, and also write articles along the lines of "lettuce gives you cancer"

*sigh*

Agreed.
The daily rags as I call them do talk hogwash
Prostitution and Porn are been accepted more in uk whuivch is a good thing

 

[nylo]

http://www.kontraband.com/videos/14134/Why-is-Prostitution-Illegal/

 

[sylthyl]

Perhaps the same way Mexicans aren't citizens (I'm not trying to start a debate fire here about immigration) but what I mean is, just like "undocumented immigrant victims", prostitutes are:

- Alive and well and working in every country of the world.
- Are treated pretty much the same way.
- can charge more money, the more EXCLUSIVE they are.

So in the U.S., where it is almost always not legal, they charge a ton! I have friends tell me that most pornstars (yes the ones on FO too..) charge $2000 or more for one session or "pop". But even at $2000 sites like Itsyourporn can hire just about every girl for a nice visit and make money of them.

As for the immigrants, like any subset of society that is not tolerated by everybody, with this "hiding in plain sight" they can be exclusive and that affords them certain abilities, like to never reveal their true identity, and RIP YOU OFF!

In places like Singapore or Thailand where entire districts are segregated for this purpose, there are beautiful girls that any American talent scout could go to and hire a girl for $30. Beautiful, young, talented, and ready to move anywhere.. for $30. Want a video? $100. Want 10 videos? $200. Yeah. We have had girls fly there for surgical work. It's fun to walk into the clubs and see the collections of girls behind the glass. Numbers on their spaghetti string blouses. You tell the old guy with an always lit cigarette "I will have 54, the tall one", and he says "That's $30, go to room 12". Simple as that.

In Germany most towns also have this segregation. The Red light districts are divided usually from view by natural barriers like a cul-de-sac or big industrial area, or they sometimes just have a big STEEL WALL at the intersection like in Bremen. In Hamburg too. However pops are 30 euros. Maybe 50. Two girls? 60. And they are pretty. AND disease free.

Maybe that's why?? Honestly why not make it legal.. when I visit to Vancouver and Calgary next year I'm looking forward to see what it is like.. however since Canada doesn't REGULATE prostitution it's like it was in Germany a few years ago.. dirty, risky.. Not that prostitution is ever a safe or clean act.. hey "the chances of you dying in a car crash on the way to work....blah..blah.."

Technically the pay-for-porn sites are just 3rd person prostitution. Ironic that in the U.S., (Best country in the world by the way!!!) they lead the porn industry world wide, yet while the display of the acts in the videos is not illegal, the act itself they commit in the videos is illegal.

As my brother says, "DUDE THAT IS JUST WEIRD."

The difference between sex as a problem and sex is not a problem is when something is combined with the sex that is already a problem. Irresponsibility, lack of consent, violation and even violence, those are the problems. Sex is just the excuse, as it comes out in other forms as well.

The argument that pornography is harmful is based on an industry that is partially run by outcasts and cater to the minority of consumers that want those acts. Erotica and the enjoyment of mutually consenting sex, between two (or more) adults, fantasy and positive role-play and other situations, is not harmful because it is not introducing anything that is already a problem outside of sex.

Here in the US, we grow up learning what is absolutely right and wrong, and are force-fed abstinence. Some teach responsibility along with lack of abstinence, but it doesn't go far enough. Instead, we should teach consent first and foremost. We do not. We have all of these pressures and other non-sense, and people do things they do not want. We do not each consent, we do not teach kids how to say no, we do not teach them to be responsible.

And, frankly, the lack of responsibility my generation has shown as adults has not provided an good example anyway. Which is why it doesn't surprise me how it comes out in our education system either. We're so focused on judgment, alleged morals, and saying we're better than others that we forgot, long ago, our basic instincts to respect the decisions of others, and not "respect" as if it is some absolute that we can say others wrongfully disagree with it if doesn't match our "values."

So this is the result. And we're only getting worse. Freedom used to be about letting adults consent. Now it's about "policy" and other things lawyers talk about. We've been so irresponsible that we've taken away from ourselves. Why? Out of the name of protecting ourselves from ourselves, instead of focusing on what is important.

We argue over whether pornography is bad or if prostitution is bad, instead of arguing what pornography is harmful and how to protect women, and what we need to do to ensure prostitution is sustainable for the women. Anyone who wants to go into those details are laughed at or, worse yet, considered just "part of the problem" -- from both sides (those who want it gone, and those who want to keep it raw and unchallenged).

When did we ever reach this point?

 

[monicasilver]

Sad fact is that nobody wants to campaign on being the guy who legalizes prostitution. Just like pot, the stigma attached is huge. Therefor, an industry is relegated to the black market where there's zero regulation. And everybody who hates to think is content.

I can go to the bar tonight, ply a girl with free booze and then there's a decent chance that I can A) fuck her and B) send her ass home so she doesn't even know my name.

Perfectly legal.

No anti-prostitution advocate could articulate why that's any better than paying a sober woman to do the same thing. Because thinking and spending time with thought is something we refuse to do.

That is very true.

On a whole, if you legalize and control prostitution it would have a positive affect on the girls and the clients. You're not going to stop it, so outside of the fact that nobody is going to pick up the banner to legalize it and have their hands soiled, it makes sense to legalize it.

If it was legalized it might have a negative financial impact on me.

 

[georges]

Oh and there are a whole lot of right wing Christian groups in the UD campaiging and against porn and anti-pornography groups.

Due to our culture in the UK, porn and prostitution is gradually becoming more accepted and porn is popular with men, females and couples. During my 6 years in the industry here the media has become increasingly intrigued and favourable towards porn and escorts....

Unless of course you read the Daily Mail - a paper that throwns on sexual expression, porn, and also write articles along the lines of "lettuce gives you cancer"

*sigh*

that is a good thing to hear