Why do so many white guys like watching black men fuck their women?

[BioDefenseGrad]

I think this goes something more like; white man is more likely wanting to watch porn with white male actor to be able to imagine himself more realistically being inside the scene, latina men may prefer latina male actors, black men may prefer black male actors etc. This is not big secret that there are many people like this, but rather people having not balls to admit that they actually pick movie because of color of cock of male actor which matches color of their own. This does not necessary have anything to do with the fact that person would be gay and it's not going to be highest priority for chosing a movie except for ones with specific fetishes. If every porn movie had black male actor, then white people would be much more likely to end up searching for subcategories such as "white man fucking ladies" intead...

Correct, I don't know why people want to deny this or make it controversial when it's pretty obvious this is what most male consumers have preferred in and out of porn.

 

[herrolf]

I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's purely aesthetic - it's visually appealing. That is why I like porn - the visuals. The social commentary and the humiliation cuckold angle I couldn't care less about.

I'm inclined to agree with you!

 

[Rey C.]

Correct, I don't know why people want to deny this or make it controversial when it's pretty obvious this is what most male consumers have preferred in and out of porn.

You really don't get it, do you? First, no one in this thread (as far as I have seen) has said otherwise. What are you, Captain Obvious now? Generally speaking, men (and women) prefer seeing people doing things, whether it be porn, baking cakes on the Food Network, racing cars or doing fashion shows, who look most like themselves. Duh! But second, what we're talking about here, that has been stated in this and your gem of a thread numerous times, is a fetish. And not every porn viewer, male or female, Black or White, has the same fetishes as every other porn viewer of the same demographic. And just as there are some White males who like to see females of their own race with men of a different race, there are also Black males, Latino males, Asian males (and whatever other groups you want to include) who get off watching females of their race do the same thing. Is it more pronounced (as a percentage) among White males? I do not know... and neither do you. So stop with the faux statistics and pseudo-intellectual babbling. It's simply what some guys (or girls) get off on.

Racial domination is but one of many genres of sexual fetish that exists. Go to Clips4Sale, type "racial domination" into the keyword search and you'll get ALL KINDS of results. Yes, you will surely find White women dominating/humiliating White men using Black males as the source of that humiliation, and you can likely find every other combination imaginable. Why? Because someone, somewhere paid someone to film that scene. Why? Because that's what they're into. Why? Son, go ask your mother. I don't fucking know why people get off on what they get off on. But a big part of your problem is that you (obviously) sit around for hours on end, watching and analyzing porn that you claim makes you upset. But I find it very hard to believe that you could know so many titles and know so much about these various studios, actors and actresses... unless it was (secretly) doing something for you. Come on now... isn't there something that you want to share with the class? Honest admission to oneself is the first step to recovery and healthy living.

The OP's question was a legitimate one, IMO. His only problem was that he was trapped by a generalization. Much like yourself, that tends to make one think that he can accurately describe an elephant, even though he is blind and he is only feeling the tail of the beast.

 

[Anonyne#017]

I just wanted to add, what comes to this very "white men" buying porn with "their women" getting fucked by "black men" generalization (which I'm not sure if this thread was for racistic purposes or if we should be talking about specific fetish). Black stick movie sales do not necessary mean that white man has any interest in seeing black cock, which seemed to be some kind of illusion here, from what I only read quickly. If you go to shop buying milk and they only have one kind of milk, which kind of milk are you going to buy? That one kind, that same kind or that another kind one right next to it which seems to be exactly the same kind of stuff anyway? White man might go to pornstore, start to browse around some fetish corner or look front cover with most attractive looking chicks, maybe he finds some with a hot chick and decides that's what he wants to buy. After he might notice that there is a black male actor in this movie, which might just be coincidence. He might want to pick a movie having women with big asses and yet this may have nothing to do with him actually wanting to see black mambas in itself. There is a huge chance that he really doesn't give a shit about black cocks or male actors at all, but he wants to see that hot woman in cover picture to get nailed anyway. There are couple options for him to do; A) He doesn't care about male actor at all and buys movie either way, or B) he will simply pick another movie to fit his racial interests better. White men might be big consumers of porn, but that has absolutely nothing to do with them actually wanting to see black cocks, interacial gay sex or cuckold interest at all, which seems to be closer to what some people seemed to say here... Then again, I wouldn't go to far to judge people from their fetishes, even thought I have grown to believe in some kind of standards and can see some things way too extreme to be considered normal behaviour or just to be against good tastes...

 

[Rey C.]

Ya know, there are OCSMs here at FreeOnes. There are professional actresses, others who are cam girls and swingers who run pro-am sites. Some post more than others, but they are here. And more than a few might be willing to address (respectful) questions about who their customers or fans seem to be, from a demographic standpoint. Where these types of threads fall flat is when those who are not in the porn business (including yours truly) start spouting off factoids about a business that we actually know nothing about and about which we have little to no objective data. And making up stats and arriving at conclusions, which are based solely on ones own prejudices, probably just convinces those who are (truly) in the know to keep away from threads that they don't see as worth their time. Rebecca Dream, Faith 69, Kristine Cumz and Dawn Marie from Dreamnet post here on occasion. They are all intelligent people and they could speak to this issue. So could Jinxy Pie and many others. But if you start off like a dickhead, threatening to boycott a girl or her site because she does scenes that you don't approve of, you have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting her to engage in a healthy conversation with you about this, or any other topic.

She interacts with her customers and fans. She has a better idea of who these people are than anyone else. I know, it's a crazy thought... but uh... asking the person who has the answer is quite often a smart thing to do. I'm just sayin'.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Ya know, there are OCSMs here at FreeOnes. There are professional actresses, others who are cam girls and swingers who run pro-am sites. Some post more than others, but they are here. And more than a few might be willing to address (respectful) questions about who their customers or fans seem to be, from a demographic standpoint. Where these types of threads fall flat is when those who are not in the porn business (including yours truly) start spouting off factoids about a business that we actually know nothing about and about which we have little to no objective data. And making up stats and arriving at conclusions, which are based solely on ones own prejudices, probably just convinces those who are (truly) in the know to keep away from threads that they don't see as worth their time. Rebecca Dream, Faith 69, Kristine Cumz and Dawn Marie from Dreamnet post here on occasion. They are all intelligent people and they could speak to this issue. So could Jinxy Pie and many others. But if you start off like a dickhead, threatening to boycott a girl or her site because she does scenes that you don't approve of, you have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting her to engage in a healthy conversation with you about this, or any other topic.

She interacts with her customers and fans. She has a better idea of who these people are than anyone else. I know, it's a crazy thought... but uh... asking the person who has the answer is quite often a smart thing to do. I'm just sayin'.

True enough, but even that runs into the question of whether they are being contacted by the average consumer of that genre or an outlier so stuck on that one genre that they're going beyond casual browsing/clip buying into wanting to contact a specific pornstar to see a specific sex act performed.

That same question holds for my own links to the IR-porn forum. Does the average guy, even if he loves X drama, go and join a forum devoted to X forum? Probably not, which begs the question of whether or not we're seeing the average fan or the extreme. Unfortunately, the only thing we have for questions like this, other than Alexa and Google are the outlier fans who we have to note and work back toward the average.

 

[eponymous]

True enough, but even that runs into the question of whether they are being contacted by the average consumer of that genre or an outlier so stuck on that one genre that they're going beyond casual browsing/clip buying into wanting to contact a specific pornstar to see a specific sex act performed.

That same question holds for my own links to the IR-porn forum. Does the average guy, even if he loves X drama, go and join a forum devoted to X forum? Probably not, which begs the question of whether or not we're seeing the average fan or the extreme. Unfortunately, the only thing we have for questions like this, other than Alexa and Google are the outlier fans who we have to note and work back toward the average.

Rarely have so many words been used to say so little. I've read it three times and it makes almost no sense. I honestly have no idea what it has to do with, well, anything.

In his last two posts, Rey pretty much demolished all your "arguments" in this thread. Not only don't I see how this is a response to him, I don't even see how it's related to anything you said before.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

What the heck are you going on about, eponymous?

Your whole post makes no sense, the same goes for your counter-argument. I don't expect you to understand, as you make ridiculous contentions and produce straw men arguments to knock down.


If you're not going to actually talk about the subject of the thread, go somewhere else.

 

[monkeyspanky45]

All who participate in this lifestyle are complete betas who don't have any respect for themselves

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

All who participate in this lifestyle are complete betas who don't have any respect for themselves

I think it's an injustice to betas to associate them with it. They are more like omegas or some other classification.

 

[eponymous]

What the heck are you going on about, eponymous?

Your whole post makes no sense, the same goes for your counter-argument. I don't expect you to understand, as you make ridiculous contentions and produce straw men arguments to knock down.

If you're not going to actually talk about the subject of the thread, go somewhere else.

Unbelievable. You of all people have no business levying such claims against others. My post was totally straightforward: I said your post was total nonsense & completely off-topic. Now you have to say my post makes no sense, and I need to stick to the subject?

Now, please be so kind as to provide even one example of a Straw Man argument I used anywhere in this discussion. I'm quite certain you can't, because I used none.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Unbelievable. You of all people have no business levying such claims against others. My post was totally straightforward: I said your post was total nonsense & completely off-topic. Now you have to say my post makes no sense, and I need to stick to the subject?

Now, please be so kind as to provide even one example of a Straw Man argument I used anywhere in this discussion. I'm quite certain you can't, because I used none.

OFF-topic?? You did exactly that in your long-winded reply. Take stock of your own replies and notice that they are mostly attacks, not discussion of the topic. Who the heck are you to mandate anything from anyone when you completely ignore those rules yourself?

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

I don't know what you see, but I don't see skin color in peoples' profiles. Not here anyway. I don't hang out in a lot of IR porn forums, so I don't know who frequents them, but there are at least three roles in an IR scene: the black guy, the white woman, and the viewer, who may actually be in the scene (like a watcher or a cuckold), but he is nearly always the "end user" or consumer. I imagine all three roles are represented in online forums, but as to the general breakdown of race and gender of all forum participants, I have no idea. What I am saying is that in nearly all cases, the consumer is probably a white guy. It is implied that he is a white guy because it is his wife that is fucking the black guy. At least, according to the initial assumptions being made in the original question of this thread (see my previous post).


I don't believe black men are the stars, I think the white women are. Most sexual attraction does tend to follow racial and ethnic lines, so the ones viewing the porn would be the ones who find the white women attractive, which is more likely to be white men.



I have no idea who buys these primarily, but yeah, probably. What I am pretty sure of is that in the porn industry, IR means "Black Man on White Woman." Not exclusively, of course, but primarily. There are also Hispanic and Asian performers, but their scenes don't get labelled as IR when they feature white costars. I would imagine that black men who buy porn probably favor scenes with black women, and that the majority prefer black men as the stars. The amount of black men who actually prefer to see White Men on Black Women is probably pretty small, but we're not addressing that kind of porn here, are we?

Abusive in your eyes, not necessarily to others. Some of it is intentionally abusive, which is the why it is a turn on to the people who enjoy watching it. This doesn't appeal to everyone, but it does to some. And who are we to judge? And a lot of it isn't abusive in most people's eyes.

Anyway, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that white men buy the majority of porn, both fetish and non fetish. A not-inconsiderable number of women buy porn, but probably not the kind we're discussing. And I'm sure a lot black men buy porn too, along with Hispanic men, Asians, etc. The reason a lot of IR forum-goers might be white women and black men is probably that they're performers or content providers for that genre. A lot of "cam girls" hang out in online forums and chat rooms precisely because they're looking for guys who will pay money to interact with them. Is it really that far of a stretch to believe that the "mobs" of black men you perceive in such forums might also be looking for consumers? And you're only looking at the people who participate in said forums. A lot of white guys probably go to such forums and don't participate, but still purchase the advertised or promoted content.

Black guy hang out in IR pron forums because they are probably performers...are you kidding me?

Or here's the other one....the consumers of WM/BF porn are mostly black males, and the consumers of AM/WF porn are mostly WM?

That the race of the male consumer is the same as the race of the female performer?

I already pointed this out, but if your argument was correct....WHY do black owned or explicitly black oriented studios like West Coast Productions, who state they are a black oriented studio on their website, feature almost exclusively Black male performers, especially with Black female talent?

By your argument, the race of the male performers would be more random or reflecting of the male talent pool as a whole, not almost 100% black male talent? Even those non-Black male performers we can find are recent and non-regular additions, who are mostly paired with non-Black female performers.


And this canard about "IR means BM/XW" is total nonsense...why do Black women have IR listed on their agency cards then? Hispanic women could have IR listed or not because Hispanic people are of any race or a mixture. Asian women had IR listed or not because for many years, IR was the default for Asian women because there were no Asian men to speak of. Most of those Asian women performed in White oriented productions because there were a HUGE number of White oriented studios, far more than now. There were no Hispanic oriented studios in the U.S. and slightly less Black studios. This listing of Asian or Black hispanic women being "available for IR" is mostly a product of the meme originated by sad black fans and performers...

As is noted, there have been Black female performers who did NOT work with White men, they did not have IR listed on their cards, counter to your argument. There are performers like Roxy Reynolds who stopped doing scenes with non-Black men. According to your argument, she would have had interracial listed on her agency card, but she did not, of course.

 

[eponymous]

OFF-topic?? You did exactly that in your long-winded reply. Take stock of your own replies and notice that they are mostly attacks, not discussion of the topic. Who the heck are you to mandate anything from anyone when you completely ignore those rules yourself?

It was a point-by-point response to everything you said in your immediately prior post, and therefore by definition was not off-topic. The only thing that has been off-topic about my posts is that the last couple have been devoted to saying "No, you'reoff-topic."

So I'm done here. This is completely pointless. I'm not going to continue to argue with someone whose rhetorical skills peaked with "I know you are, but what am I?".

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

It was a point-by-point response to everything you said in your immediately prior post, and therefore by definition was not off-topic. The only thing that has been off-topic about my posts is that the last couple have been devoted to saying "No, you'reoff-topic."

So I'm done here. This is completely pointless. I'm not going to continue to argue with someone whose rhetorical skills peaked with "I know you are, but what am I?".

You are pathetic. I refute your ridiculous argument and then you cry about it. Go come back with some more half-baked replies and I'll destroy those two.

 

[monkeyspanky45]

these men are pathetic not even deserve having a cock to use why would you want another man to fuck your women when you can damn well do it yourself grow the hell up and take charge of your own insecurities

 

[qwqwqw]

Current Top 10 in rentals on Xrent DVD as of 8/27/13

1.Mandingo Unchained (JJV) BM/WF
2.Teen Anal Nightmare#4 (WCP) BM/WF
3.Housewives of Lex Steele (Dream Zone) BM/WF
4.Balls Deep Anal Nymphos #2 (WCP) BM/WF
5.Lex Likes 'Em Thick (Evil) BM/WF
6.Devils Gang (Devils Films) 3 of 6 males black in Lisa Ann's and 1 of 6 males in Chanel's
7.Real Housewives of LA#2 (WCP) BM/BF
8.Anal Required (Evil) vanilla
9.Black Ass Anal Drilling#3 (WCP) BM/BF
10.So Young So Sexy POV#7 (Digital Sin) vanilla


Deny it all you want. The numbers dont lie! There are many more white men in USA than black men, so its not hard to figure out many white men are renting these interracial movies

 

[sean miguel]

Emily Austin getting it from Mandingo is one of the hottest things I've ever seen in porn.

:rubbel:

 

[qwqwqw]

Emily Austin getting it from Mandingo is one of the hottest things I've ever seen in porn.

:rubbel:

 

[sean miguel]

^ if you're a fan of porn you can't deny this is f'n hot.

I have this full video and photo set, and unlike other videos on blacksonblondes.com it doesn't play on the racial theme, i.e. "You like this BBD bitch?." It's simply one big dick motherfucker (ok, the biggest in porn) fucking a fine ass blonde. This video is more erotic than it is in your face hardcore.

Kudos to Mandingo. I'm not often jealous of the male talent in porn but damn, I wish I had that in my arsenal.