White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not white?

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

And black people do the same exact thing to non-blacks when they have the opportunity.

If you say so..I guess it must be true.

2 things. You say you owe blacks nothing (and I believe you..neither do I) but what are they asking you for specifically?

Also point us to where in this world have blacks not only systematically targeted whites for lynching, burning at the stake, maiming and mutilating but then had local authorities tolerated it if not co-conspire in it outright?

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Case closed BDG.:dunno:

I mean you do know before your time here blacks were burned, bombed, lynched, mutilated and maimed for many many many many years before the '70s and to a lesser degree afterwards.

Not in my state they weren't - ever (except one time). Neither in the greater Northern America they weren't (or at least not frequently by any means). I won't apologize for the South for their sins. This collective guilt that people try to put on whites for past sins is disgusting, because it is so incredibly untrue.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Not in my state they weren't - ever (except one time). Neither in the greater Northern America they weren't (or at least not frequently by any means). I won't apologize for the South for their sins. This collective guilt that people try to put on whites for past sins is disgusting, because it is so incredibly untrue.

Some people are just referencing history, others are using it as a way to manipulate non-blacks or close debate on an issue. I'm happy to say that this tactic is becoming ineffective.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

If you say so..I guess it must be true.

2 things. You say you owe blacks nothing (and I believe you..neither do I) but what are they asking you for specifically?

Also point us to where in this world have blacks not only systematically targeted whites for lynching, burning at the stake, maiming and mutilating but then had local authorities tolerated it if not co-conspire in it outright?

Ah now this is where it becomes interesting. You need to go back to my post and read it again, where I said when they had the opportunity. In 2010 do you think Whites get away with lynchings with help from the local authorities?
I would say no, and neither do black people or any other group here in the U.S.


Now let's talk about what DOES happen, and that's groups of people beating the hell out of, raping or killing individuals as people who should know better either don't intervene or give tacit approval. What else happens, folks deliberately target one group for beatings, rape and murder based on their skin color-we're ignoring other types of bias here.

How many cases can we think of in the last 20 years where Whites targeted blacks? There are a bunch of high profile cases we can think of, possibly the worst being the dragging and dismemberment death going on in Texas.

There are even more cases of blacks targeting white victims. On top of that, we also have a huge disparity in rapes. Note that Hate Crime laws aren't applied uniformly across the country, so there are several cases where race may have been a factor (indicating bias) where all of the suspects were not charged with hate crimes.

I'll contend that in in the case of African Americans, we also see times where Adults make excuses and cover up for violent crimes by juveniles. This indicates a level of community approval or solidarity on racial lines that continues even into acceptance of group violence as long as the victims aren't black. http://www.philly.com/inquirer/loca..._she_s_learned_from_last_year_s_mistakes.html At the bottom here you'll read a short reference to the anti-Asian pogrom in a South Philadelphia school.
^^^
In my opinion, this is a modern remnant no longer found in other groups (though killing of black people by Mexican gangs qualifies) and as close as you'll find to lynching in 2010. So why is this so much more common among blacks than non-blacks?
1. Overt, community sanctioned racism is beyond taboo among all groups. White especially seeing that Whites are the majority, the White left is the most robust and self-critical and because Whites perpetrated it the most.
2. Blacks were objectified and lionized by the left sort of the way Native Americans were turned into the "Noble Savage" or the "Dying Celt" by the White left. Black racism has been ignored or legitimized by leftist academics and the center-left mainstream.


With that said, it's important to restate that it's not that the vast majority of Whites have "seen the light" (though most White people aren't racist) it's that the COST of overt racism has become too high for White people. It's too high for other groups too. It's only now becoming too costly for black people.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

If you say so..I guess it must be true.

2 things. You say you owe blacks nothing (and I believe you..neither do I) but what are they asking you for specifically?

Also point us to where in this world have blacks not only systematically targeted whites for lynching, burning at the stake, maiming and mutilating but then had local authorities tolerated it if not co-conspire in it outright?

I'm also going to leave out what black Africans are doing to minorities in South Africa, Zimbabwe and other African countries even though the lynching, burning, maiming and mutilation with toleration by local authorities is happening.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

oh boy, now wer'e talking about lynchings and shit.

some of you people just cant help yourselves, cant resist.

first of all people like to change history and act like white people all over the states were going around hanging blacks for sport.
keep thinking that, but it aint true.
and what about the millions who fought on the side of the north to end slavery?
the 6 or 7 thousand who died?
the equal amount that got maimed?
ah fuck them right?

and if you really want to talk numbers, all in all in the history of the united states up until today, who do you think has commited more crime, violent crime against the other?
wellthe numbers are about 500 to 1 black on white but a lot of you fools wont believe that.
dwell on the past, twist it, change it, ignore the present and especially the last 40 or so years if it makes you feel good but youre full of shit and you know it.

i'll answer the question again.
yes i would,
i spent the day with a black girl yesterday but to me she's just a girl and thats all i think of her as.

and zolf, you hate white people youve made that very clear.
you are probably the biggest racist on this board and i rarely accuse anybody of that.
and mega backs you up every step of the way.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

http://youngphillypolitics.com/district039s_south_philly_high_story_unravels

Here's a less sympathetic link by a progressive group in contrast to my first, it details the reaction of the black establishment in Philadelphia and who finally brought down Arlene Ackerman. It's interesting to note where she's now employed.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Not in my state they weren't - ever (except one time). Neither in the greater Northern America they weren't (or at least not frequently by any means). I won't apologize for the South for their sins. This collective guilt that people try to put on whites for past sins is disgusting, because it is so incredibly untrue.

Some people are just referencing history, others are using it as a way to manipulate non-blacks or close debate on an issue. I'm happy to say that this tactic is becoming ineffective.

I hope this isn't a 'team sport' as you commonly attempt to make it BDG. I'm not playing some tactic. I'm not playing some play from a playbook I asked you a legitimate question based on a naive or heavily jaded perspective you forwarded.

If it's anything you're running verbatim script from a playbook from what I can see.

Whites needn't collectively apologize nor take credit for anything...but BDG you're the one constantly triping on what 'Blacks' do as if there's some collective of Blacks who do things you defend, ignore or minimize of whites having done.

Ah now this is where it becomes interesting. You need to go back to my post and read it again, where I said when they had the opportunity. In 2010 do you think Whites get away with lynchings with help from the local authorities?
I would say no, and neither do black people or any other group here in the U.S.

Now let's talk about what DOES happen, and that's groups of people beating the hell out of, raping or killing individuals as people who should know better either don't intervene or give tacit approval. What else happens, folks deliberately target one group for beatings, rape and murder based on their skin color-we're ignoring other types of bias here.

How many cases can we think of in the last 20 years where Whites targeted blacks? There are a bunch of high profile cases we can think of, possibly the worst being the dragging and dismemberment death going on in Texas.

There are even more cases of blacks targeting white victims. On top of that, we also have a huge disparity in rapes. Note that Hate Crime laws aren't applied uniformly across the country, so there are several cases where race may have been a factor (indicating bias) where all of the suspects were not charged with hate crimes.

I'll contend that in in the case of African Americans, we also see times where Adults make excuses and cover up for violent crimes by juveniles. This indicates a level of community approval or solidarity on racial lines that continues even into acceptance of group violence as long as the victims aren't black. http://www.philly.com/inquirer/loca..._she_s_learned_from_last_year_s_mistakes.html At the bottom here you'll read a short reference to the anti-Asian pogrom in a South Philadelphia school.
^^^
In my opinion, this is a modern remnant no longer found in other groups (though killing of black people by Mexican gangs qualifies) and as close as you'll find to lynching in 2010. So why is this so much more common among blacks than non-blacks?
1. Overt, community sanctioned racism is beyond taboo among all groups. White especially seeing that Whites are the majority, the White left is the most robust and self-critical and because Whites perpetrated it the most.
2. Blacks were objectified and lionized by the left sort of the way Native Americans were turned into the "Noble Savage" or the "Dying Celt" by the White left. Black racism has been ignored or legitimized by leftist academics and the center-left mainstream.

With that said, it's important to restate that it's not that the vast majority of Whites have "seen the light" (though most White people aren't racist) it's that the COST of overt racism has become too high for White people. It's too high for other groups too. It's only now becoming too costly for black people.

Well even by today's standards if we ignore past instances which overwhelmingly dominate the comparisons, Blacks though they have some extremist groups DO NOT have the kinds of groups sitting around plotting genocides and racial cleansings in the US that some whites seem obsessed with. What some people are saying in this thread is ...while it's no excuse..if for example a group of person As bullies a group of person Bs for as long as they can remember...why wouldn't you expect some number of person Bs to respond to that and do the things the person As have shown them to do to people not like them? At minimum respond to person As with it. Isn't that a form of blowback? For this isn't it somewhat reasonable for some whites to blame a history towards blacks on this?

I'm also going to leave out what black Africans are doing to minorities in South Africa, Zimbabwe and other African countries even though the lynching, burning, maiming and mutilation with toleration by local authorities is happening.

Wow...whites colonize a country and brutally subjugate it's people then at some point in the history of this it's people target black hate groups there.:eek: I swear, I would have never seen that coming.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Keep in mind that a white-on-black crime usually reads "hate" or "racist" crime by the MSM, whereas black-on-white crime as reported by the MSM is usually by provocation or "opportunity. A "crime of opportunity." Right:

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

oh boy, now wer'e talking about lynchings and shit.

some of you people just cant help yourselves, cant resist.

first of all people like to change history and act like white people all over the states were going around hanging blacks for sport.
keep thinking that, but it aint true.
and what about the millions who fought on the side of the north to end slavery?
the 6 or 7 thousand who died?
the equal amount that got maimed?
ah fuck them right?

and if you really want to talk numbers, all in all in the history of the united states up until today, who do you think has commited more crime, violent crime against the other?
wellthe numbers are about 500 to 1 black on white but a lot of you fools wont believe that.
dwell on the past, twist it, change it, ignore the present and especially the last 40 or so years if it makes you feel good but youre full of shit and you know it.

i'll answer the question again.
yes i would,
i spent the day with a black girl yesterday but to me she's just a girl and thats all i think of her as.

and zolf, you hate white people youve made that very clear.
you are probably the biggest racist on this board and i rarely accuse anybody of that.
and mega backs you up every step of the way.

Another woe is me from meester...sheesh man.

First, I don't back anyone up except my own perspective. I articulate what I think based on the way I see things.

I don't back anyone up least of which someone who hates white people.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

http://youngphillypolitics.com/district039s_south_philly_high_story_unravels

Here's a less sympathetic link by a progressive group in contrast to my first, it details the reaction of the black establishment in Philadelphia and who finally brought down Arlene Ackerman. It's interesting to note where she's now employed.

well thats just reality.
and ive seen similar to thatv first hand.
i had a co worker who everyday her daughter would get smacked around by a obese black girl who was 18 actually.
sometimes she would really beat her.
the school, the teachers did nothing.
and this went on for months.
she finally had to go to the police who also were reluctant to help saying it was the schools problem to deal with.

now why wouldnt the school protect this girl?
because the teachers and the principal and everybody involved were afraid of losing there jobs and or being accused of racism.

seems like a similar situation in that article.
this is happening all over the country everyday.
this is why a lot of white people have got out of the cities.
who wants to send their kid to school to deal with that everyday?

its almost as if blacks are holding the schools hostage and the students are the hostages.

bullying, harrassment, violence its all over the public schools.
and its no coincedence that everybody i have known in my life, cousins, co workers friends who went to school in a black majority school dont like blacks and they avoid dealing with them any way they can and people that didnt go to school like that are the ones to defend defend defend and chuck that word racist around.

people like zolf will call me racist for my words although ive said nothing demeaning.
the reality is that idiots, low lifes, breed idiots and low lifes and most are economically supported by the parents of the kids who they are abusing everyday.
literally have paid for the clothes on their backs.
how ironic.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

I hope this isn't a 'team sport' as you commonly attempt to make it BDG. I'm not playing some tactic. I'm not playing some play from a playbook I asked you a legitimate question based on a naive or heavily jaded perspective you forwarded.

If it's anything you're running verbatim script from a playbook from what I can see.

Whites needn't collectively apologize nor take credit for anything...but BDG you're the one constantly triping on what 'Blacks' do as if there's some collective of Blacks who do things you defend, ignore or minimize of whites having done.



Well even by today's standards if we ignore past instances which overwhelmingly dominate the comparisons, Blacks though they have some extremist groups DO NOT have the kinds of groups sitting around plotting genocides and racial cleansings in the US that some whites seem obsessed with. What some people are saying in this thread is ...while it's no excuse..if for example a group of person As bullies a group of person Bs for as long as they can remember...why wouldn't you expect some number of person Bs to respond to that and do the things the person As have shown them to do to people not like them? At minimum respond to person As with it. Isn't that a form of blowback? For this isn't it somewhat reasonable for some whites to blame a history towards blacks on this?



Wow...whites colonize a country and brutally subjugate it's people then at some point in the history of this it's people target black hate groups there.:eek: I swear, I would have never seen that coming.

Your response is kind of a mess. I think this stems from too many scattershot posts on this thread (of which I'm definitely guilty of) so I'm going to try and boil everything down.

"...why wouldn't you expect some number of person Bs to respond to that and do the things the person As have shown them to do to people not like them?"
^^^
Okay here goes. You can replace B with blacks and A with Whites. Okay fair enough. B goes and "turn about is fair play" starts killing, raping intimidating A. Fine. Well guess what, now A responds with more of the same.


Do you really want Whites to start making up for the 300:1 rape ratio? Or to close the gap and commit more White on Black murders and assaults? Seeing that this would just be a response to what Blacks have shown Whites.


Let's also note that this isn't just about crime, it's also about many, many other annoying things that occur in context of race.

 

[Zolf J. Kimbly]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

wellthe numbers are about 500 to 1 black on white but a lot of you fools wont believe that.

and zolf, you hate white people youve made that very clear.
you are probably the biggest racist on this board and i rarely accuse anybody of that.
and mega backs you up every step of the way.

first of all i sure as shit would love to know where you got that 500 to 1 bullshit from

david duke perhaps?

even if you could back it up with some type of written proof i would take it with a grain of salt

no way to determine how much violent crime whites commited against blacks for 400+ years since the numbers have mysteriously never been kept track of

also it is hard to keep up with crime when what you are doing to someone had not been considered a crime for centuries

also you got some pretty big cajones calling me the most racist person here

i have said time and again that i am not racist

racist people would want nothing to do with the group they hate

yet i have piles of white friends and have had a few white gfs

its like me calling you racist even though you seem to enjoy plowing black girls

you have obviously ignored all the racist bs about muslims and blacks and hispanics that spew from the mouths of a few unscrupulous posters here

like i told that other board troll terd who shall remain nameless, you only like to call me out when i point out white racism

never seen you once call out anyone else

last i have never once received any indorsement from HM whatsoever

its apparent that you two must have some history:dunno:

 

[ramsay12344]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

The results as of now are shocking.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Your response is kind of a mess. I think this stems from too many scattershot posts on this thread (of which I'm definitely guilty of) so I'm going to try and boil everything down.

"...why wouldn't you expect some number of person Bs to respond to that and do the things the person As have shown them to do to people not like them?"
^^^
Okay here goes. You can replace B with blacks and A with Whites. Okay fair enough. B goes and "turn about is fair play" starts killing, raping intimidating A. Fine. Well guess what, now A responds with more of the same.


Do you really want Whites to start making up for the 300:1 rape ratio? Or to close the gap and commit more White on Black murders and assaults? Seeing that this would just be a response to what Blacks have shown Whites.


Let's also note that this isn't just about crime, it's also about many, many other annoying things that occur in context of race.

The point is academic...meaning it's a simple cause and effect principle.

But certainly there those for whom this is GREAT for them because gives them the ability to phony up statistics, exaggerated circumstances and use the case to effect what their aims are.

From many of your posts.....it's clear why you follow this stuff so closely because you most likely subscribe to that premise, it's hopes and aims.

There are criminals in this world of all races but many of whom are black..who commit violent crimes which amount to some amalgamation of isolated incidents. But they don't have any appreciable number of them sitting around plotting covert or overt genocides and cleansing of whites with their every waking moment.:dunno:

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Keep in mind that a white-on-black crime usually reads "hate" or "racist" crime by the MSM, whereas black-on-white crime as reported by the MSM is usually by provocation or "opportunity. A "crime of opportunity." Right:

One of the reasons why this case comes up again and again, besides it's HORRENDOUS brutality, was the way the D.A. dodged application of hate crime charges. One of the guys had a relationship with a white woman so he couldn't be racist...


Was Strom Thurmond racist? And you don't even have to go to the extreme to under the point. These folks were a group of car jackers and their neighbors, who never brutalized their non-white victims like they did to this couple. Race did come up in the investigation, but the D.A. ignored it.

What else turned out not to be Hate Crime? Jan and Quiana Pietrzak's double murder, where his wife was raped before being killed.

The guy who planned it worked for Pietrzak, knew his wife was black and made references to race at the crime scene. He broke into the house of a guy he worked for without concealing his identity along with his friends, tied him up and tortured and raped his wife then killed them. Racial slurs were left at the crime scene. All four were black. No hate crime charges. They barely took anything of value from the home.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

What else turned out not to be Hate Crime? Jan and Quiana Pietrzak's double murder, where his wife was raped before being killed.

The guy who planned it worked for Pietrzak, knew his wife was black and made references to race at the crime scene. He broke into the house of a guy he worked for without concealing his identity along with his friends, tied him up and tortured and raped his wife then killed them. Racial slurs were left at the crime scene. All four were black. No hate crime charges. They barely took anything of value from the home.

They should get the death penalty. Double murder, rape, torture attempted robbery...and a hate crime.:dunno:

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

The point is academic...meaning it's a simple cause and effect principle.

But certainly there those for whom this is GREAT for them because gives them the ability to phony up statistics, exaggerated circumstances and use the case to effect what their aims are.

From many of your posts.....it's clear why you follow this stuff so closely because you most likely subscribe to that premise, it's hopes and aims.

There are criminals in this world of all races but many of whom are black..who commit violent crimes which amount to some amalgamation of isolated incidents. But they don't have any appreciable number of them sitting around plotting covert or overt genocides and cleansing of whites with their every waking moment.:dunno:

Every Pakistani isn't sitting around plotting the humiliation, forced conversion, kidnapping, gangrape or murder of their Hindu, Sikh and Christian minority but you wouldn't know it due to the number of incidents that occur in Pakistan.

Why is this? You don't have to have a conspiracy when a culture of aggression exists. A lot of the attacks and lynchings on blacks occurred in towns that didn't have much contact with one another, but it didn't matter when that culture exists.

Look at what happens in Asia or Africa today where one tribe goes out of it's way to humiliate, rape, kidnap and murder another. A lot of these people would think of race as a foreign concept, but they do understand the tribe. That's the way humans are hardwired. Folks see everyone not of their tribe as the enemy. They also make excuses for the crimes of their tribe. Race is one way that people have constructed what constitutes their tribe.

That's what this boils down to, tribalism and oneupmanship. It's become socially unacceptable for MOST groups to do that anymore. But excuses were made for and by African Americans for quite a long time, which is why this taboo is such a recent development among African Americans.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

Look at what happens in Asia or Africa today where one tribe goes out of it's way to humiliate, rape, kidnap and murder another. A lot of these people would think of race as a foreign concept, but they do understand the tribe. That's the way humans are hardwired. Folks see everyone not of their tribe as the enemy. Race is one way that people identify the tribe. They also make excuses for the crimes of their tribe.

That's what this boils down to, tribalism and oneupmanship. It's become socially unacceptable for MOST groups to do that anymore. But excuses were made for and by African Americans for quite a long time, which is why this taboo is such a recent development among African Americans.

That's absurd and if you want to buy into that then go right ahead....the rest of us will focus on living with the OVERWHELMING majority of people who are just trying to live their lives out the best they can.

Though it may exist on some subconscious level among people it's only the deluded minority where it makes a difference. The problem is it's that delude minority making life miserable for innocent people minding their own business.

I say why don't you and the rest of the people who whine and nag about this stuff go get with all the other extremists and fight it out in a giant valley cordoned off with 30 ft high razor wire...when you guys are too tired to continued or a 'winner' is crowned among you losers...we'll send the planes in to napalm the rest of you.

That won't solve all the world's problems but at least it will get rid of enough extremists to where the rest of the world can get on with making the place a little better..instead of being bothered with those working on making it worse.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit

That's absurd and if you want to buy into that then go right ahead....the rest of us will focus on living with the OVERWHELMING majority of people who are just trying to live their lives out the best they can.

Though it may exist on some subconscious level among people it's only the deluded minority where it makes a difference. The problem is it's that delude minority making life miserable for innocent people minding their own business.

I say why don't you and the rest of the people who whine and nag about this stuff go get with all the other extremists and fight it out in a giant valley cordoned off with 30 ft high razor wire...when you guys are too tired to continued or a 'winner' is crowned among you losers...we'll send the planes in to napalm the rest of you.

That won't solve all the world's problems but at least it will get rid of enough extremists to where the rest of the world can get on with making the place a little better..instead of being bothered with those working on making it worse.

You're the one who makes excuse for this crap HotMega, did you ever stop and think that you would belong in that valley too?