White Americans no longer a majority by 2042
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Following the 'see also' led me eventually around to the history of the KKK. Upon visiting their website, wow. I didnt know they transitioned into the digital age.
They have a TV show? WhitePride DOT tv, eh? Are they calling an internet video a "TV Show"? Hm, they didnt transition too well. I think the TV show is 'optimized' for dial up. It's like a skewed, slightly country version of CNN. I dont know if that makes it laughable or slightly concerning. ::shrug:: Hmm.
They have a TV show? WhitePride DOT tv, eh? Are they calling an internet video a "TV Show"? Hm, they didnt transition too well. I think the TV show is 'optimized' for dial up. It's like a skewed, slightly country version of CNN. I dont know if that makes it laughable or slightly concerning. ::shrug:: Hmm.
Oh no! Don't let the wingnuts know about that, cuz everyone knows that CNN is part of the "liberally-biased media" - that's why Limbaugh called it the Communist News Network. (so, I guess Glenn Beck is a Commie?)
So, the book that I linked to has now been thoroughly discredited.
Oh no! Don't let the wingnuts know about that, cuz everyone knows that CNN is part of the "liberally-biased media" - that's why Limbaugh called it the Communist News Network. (so, I guess Glenn Beck is a Commie?)
So, the book that I linked to has now been thoroughly discredited.
Oh yeah had a big round table forum on it with members of one of the towns known as a sundown town and blacks from the surrounding area who had to be out of their town by dark.It was really very good.
So, hmmm....ninetysix, would x group - that "conistantly [sic] scored higher on an exam" - be blacks (or Mexicans), and y group be whites??? No? What a shock. That's pretty funny how you said "nothing of the sort" and then you all but say it - with a reference to The Bell Curve - in your next sentence. Why not just say "Yes, I'm a racist - and that's a GOOD thing, and it's a perfectly acceptable way of looking at the world!" rather than all of this evasive, slippery B.S.? At least then you could maintain a few shreds of principle and integrity.
BTW, The Bell Curve and its "facts" have been thoroughly and utterly debunked. See here:
http://www.rso.cornell.edu/scitech/archive/95sum/bell.html
(Check out the first chart on the left side in that link above; there are also some good quotes in there - whichever Euro country, or anywhere really, you claim roots in, "your people" have likely been measured and found to be inferior, and probably a dangerous and criminal element, too!)
http://www.claudiax.net/bell.html
http://www.slate.com/?id=2416
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I am afraid I have to disagree with you Friday on My Mind in post #176. I think Affirmative Action (AA) is not good. And it is reverse discrimination. It may have had a place back when Kennedy brought it in. But now it promotes racism more then it fights it.
Firstly, race should NEVER be a reason for highering someone. It should always be who is most capable. Preferential highering, for whatever reason (race, sex, favoritism), encourages resentment and discourages maximum efficiency and employee harmony. It also makes it much harder for the AA hired person as they have to constantly prove themselves and they often have to face more employee derision then they would otherwise. And even if this person is not hired due to AA, there will be many people that assume they were.
Secondly, the reactions of many in this very thread prove the resentment and anger that this policy can cause.
This isn't 1961 (when AA started). America is different now. And I honestly think AA encourages more racism then it prevents.
Firstly, race should NEVER be a reason for highering someone. It should always be who is most capable. Preferential highering, for whatever reason (race, sex, favoritism), encourages resentment and discourages maximum efficiency and employee harmony. It also makes it much harder for the AA hired person as they have to constantly prove themselves and they often have to face more employee derision then they would otherwise. And even if this person is not hired due to AA, there will be many people that assume they were.
Secondly, the reactions of many in this very thread prove the resentment and anger that this policy can cause.
This isn't 1961 (when AA started). America is different now. And I honestly think AA encourages more racism then it prevents.
And that's why you're pathetic. Because all you can do is say someone is racist when they put forth facts. I don't shy away from political incorrectness on here anymore. People have already smeared me long ago and people here have cometo their conclusions. But, I guess lets not even have test scores anymore huh? What's the point really, because God forbid, if one group of people consistently score higher than others, I guess thats' racist. What is your excuse for this disparity? Come on, what is it FK? Poverty? English as a second language? Slavery? The white man keepin' 'em down? For the record, I think the fact that you singled out blacks and latinos is racist. I never named those groups.
I know that viewpoint well,it is very strong among the white majority.I just strongly disagree with it.The fact is that as I pointed out before when only whites were being hired that was not a system that was fair eithier and all the advantages whites had in the past are still in place.Your father worked there or went to that school(so you are almost guaranteed a spot,as the example of GWB I gave earlier),none of that is gone and never will be(preferential treatment for the majority is very alive and well).Did we think that since it was whites only that were considered they were all inferior? Sorry you are employing a real double standard here IMO.Without AA ,what would be the incentive or reason to include people who were always excluded? The resentment by large part of the white majority of these people now being included is ineviatable,the only way to not have that resentment is to let them keep things the way they were.As I said about the hiring of minority fireman as oppossed to the past in many places where white's only were considered,no one is saying now you can only hire minorities now which would be the equivalent to only hiring whites wouldn't it? So to say that requiring now some minorities are included and we know that their are clearly qualified ones for such jobs is just the same as when it was whites only is not really a fair comparison IMO.
Is it fair that people like GWB and he is not alone in this at all get special advantage in college admission because his father went there?And that is at the expense of potentially a more qualified minority whose father did not have the same chance that GWBs father did.I also know that people who seek employment have an edge if their parents happened to work there or belong to a trade union as example.Again the minority in most cases does not have that edge,and those advantages are not given on merit eithier.Sure they must be qualified but they still are given advantage.I fail to see the difference between those kinds of situations and AA,except that its different groups affected.
You know the same kind of arguement about change would have a backlash was made when it was required that schools be desegrated.And I'm sure in some cases it did increase the racism and resentment among whites.But even so it was still the right things to do.Whites just have to learn to live with the new more just world in which yes they have lost some of the special priviledge they formerly enjoyed.But nobody ever said the transition would be painless and without resentments.
I guess I just have more faith then you do FOMM (there, I used it; lol) that Americans have grown past the need for social/economic racial crutches like Affirmative Action.
Racism is about ignorance. And Affirmative Action, imo, just feeds that ignorance. It gives people who aren't racist a reason to (wrongly) blame racial bias for their problems.
One thing is certain. No truly advanced country should need Affirmative Action. And America will never be truly great as long as it's populous is deemed so ignorant as to require forced racial highering practices.
In 1961 (when Affirmative Action came out), America DEFINITELY WAS that ignorant. I honestly believe they aren't THAT ignorant any longer. Not the majority any way.
Racism is about ignorance. And Affirmative Action, imo, just feeds that ignorance. It gives people who aren't racist a reason to (wrongly) blame racial bias for their problems.
One thing is certain. No truly advanced country should need Affirmative Action. And America will never be truly great as long as it's populous is deemed so ignorant as to require forced racial highering practices.
In 1961 (when Affirmative Action came out), America DEFINITELY WAS that ignorant. I honestly believe they aren't THAT ignorant any longer. Not the majority any way.
What facts have you put forth, ninetysix? (As LPB76 asked you about previously) If you have some facts, and a worthwhile analysis of them (i.e. not one from some dude on a VDARE or AmRen forum or whatever), I might be able to tell you what I think, and why. One thing you should understand is that all explanations are not excuses, and vice-versa.
What's interesting (and sadly, typical) about your way of discussing these things ninetysix is the slippery way you suggest things without coming out and saying what you want to say. You're not direct. It's like you speak/write in a series of dog whistles. As far as I know, the U.S. is not actually composed of "Group X" and "Group Y" (I don't know which one of those I'm in, for example), but there are some other demographic categories that are more commonly used. So, when you referred to the lower test scores between Xs and Ys, who were you referring to? Blondes and brunettes, white collar and blue collar, poor and rich, urbanites and rural-dwellers? If you don't say what you mean, you leave it to others to guess as to what you're talking about (and I did guess, based on other things you've said in this and other threads) - unless you're assuming that everyone understands your dog whistles and no further clarification is needed...
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Look Man !! I cannot legally hire you. Besides, if I did, they'd call me for call me for exploitation, and you know, they'd be correct. So I don't. Sorry ! :o
You don't have to be that way about it ! Geeshh !!
You don't have to be that way about it ! Geeshh !!
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^ he he :laugh: !
They all suck ! Ds & Rs ! It would actually be a joke if they weren't the principals of our country
Keystone Cop Politics !
They did nothing prolly 'cause they're whores to the short term economic remedy they provide, sorta like the phony "economic stimulus package" checks that "they" (Da Gumment) sent out recently. Both parties are in bed on this. Its called political expediency. Da Gumt. are using the illegals for many purposes, but for the sake of this portion of the conversation, I think that they're simply attempting to shore up an oncoming economic catastrophe.
They all suck ! Ds & Rs ! It would actually be a joke if they weren't the principals of our country
Keystone Cop Politics !
I'd still like to see ninetysix's facts/statistics (on test scores).
I might get slapped for this, but it's my opinion, and we are all valued to our own. The only reason why whites are so few, is probably because of all the illegal immigrants coming over here illegally, having tons of babies, living off our gonverment/US. Hell, we should atleast make them LEARN english.... why should we have to speak three different languages to get a job?!? "urgh" lol anywho... please don't be too hard on me...
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Here's one: http://www.hcreo.org/content/article/detail/580/
Here's another: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educat...ited_States_by_race_and_other_classifications
Com'on, don't bullshit me Facial King. It's common knowledge that caucasions test higher on standard testing. It could be for a variety of reasons, but they, as a group, test higher. I know pleanty of dumb ass white people, and I know some pretty smart Asians and blacks, but as a group statistics tell us that caucasions lead most groups along with asians. No question there is brilliant people of all races, but as groups some are just a little more progressed than others.
You wouldn't hesitate to concur if I said that Asains are the best at math, or if I said that blacks are the most dominant and best at basketball (or you might point out that Nowitzki and Nash were NBA MVP's for the most of this decade, which would reiterate my point about brilliant people of all races). You're a hypocrite. With all due respect Facial King, I do think you're full of it. :thefinger
I'm pretty much done with this thread, that's why I didn't post back. I still wonder about all the pussies that subscribed to this thread and didn't have the testicular fortitude to speak their mind. Bunch of punks...
I kickass on those tests. And they can be good at finding if you are smart(), but they are often terrible at finding if you are not smart.
It is a fact that things like education and confidence can massively affect your scores.
Someone I grew up with took a battery of those tests. When he took them, he thought he was average or worse. Even though it was obvious he was very smart. He scored poorly.
He later graduated with ease with a degree in Physics from maybe THE most prestigious US physics university and now runs a successful software company with software he created.
And I know many other examples.
Those tests are skewed towards educated and confident people, though usually not deliberately. That is a fact.
NO major race is noticeably smarter then another major race.
), but they are often terrible at finding if you are not smart.It is a fact that things like education and confidence can massively affect your scores.
Someone I grew up with took a battery of those tests. When he took them, he thought he was average or worse. Even though it was obvious he was very smart. He scored poorly.
He later graduated with ease with a degree in Physics from maybe THE most prestigious US physics university and now runs a successful software company with software he created.
And I know many other examples.
Those tests are skewed towards educated and confident people, though usually not deliberately. That is a fact.
NO major race is noticeably smarter then another major race.
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