What is your favorite auto racing type?
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Re: Wouldn't ...
Good Point. Okay, #8 then.I'm not so sure as they race on tarmac,dust,snow and gravel
Yep, that's what I enjoy as well. It also causes the teams to innovate new technologies that go right into production. Many of these cars also have air conditioning.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Re: Why I favor the C6 Z06 ...
I'm actually talking more about the driver than the car. I've seen more than a few guys show up for track days with big horsepower cars and not enough background or training in them. The cars will do it, but the drivers often get crossed up when it comes to hard braking and cornering. If it's just about having fun on a track day or an auto-X, and not competitive racing, it's just whatever a person likes; big fun can be had in anything from an old MG to a new ZR1. Instead of the 911 that I was looking at about 10 years ago, I chose a 1st Gen RX-7 and put the extra money into driving classes. I talked to Linda Pobst (SCCA Pro driver) at a CART race and she made me realize that I was looking for a good time more than anything else (not with her... but hey, given a chance, who knows... :dunno
Don't get me wrong: I think the Vette is a great car. Probably the best sports car for the money that a person can buy.
I just read an interesting article which quoted Bob Lutz as saying that the next Vette (C7) was going to be a mid-engine sports car, had it not been for the bankruptcy. GM has toyed with that idea before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
I'm actually talking more about the driver than the car. I've seen more than a few guys show up for track days with big horsepower cars and not enough background or training in them. The cars will do it, but the drivers often get crossed up when it comes to hard braking and cornering. If it's just about having fun on a track day or an auto-X, and not competitive racing, it's just whatever a person likes; big fun can be had in anything from an old MG to a new ZR1. Instead of the 911 that I was looking at about 10 years ago, I chose a 1st Gen RX-7 and put the extra money into driving classes. I talked to Linda Pobst (SCCA Pro driver) at a CART race and she made me realize that I was looking for a good time more than anything else (not with her... but hey, given a chance, who knows... :dunno
Don't get me wrong: I think the Vette is a great car. Probably the best sports car for the money that a person can buy.
I'm sure when the C7 Z0-whatever hits, the price on a used C6 Z06 will drop a bit more (I'm thinking in another 5 years, wishful thinking I'll hit my retirement pile sooner than later, and stop living at a poverty-level income). The C6 Z06 is already a bargain at new, retail price compared to a lot of options out there. Despite people continuing to thnk back to the C4 and C5 (at least pre-LS1 engine), which were designed for fuel efficiency after the fuel pig 427 C3. The C6 Z06 does quite a bit "out-of-the-box," and without the gas guzzler tax, despite returning to a 427.
I just read an interesting article which quoted Bob Lutz as saying that the next Vette (C7) was going to be a mid-engine sports car, had it not been for the bankruptcy. GM has toyed with that idea before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
The only racing I watch is in the animated movie cars.
Other than that, meh. Hockey > auto racing.
Other than that, meh. Hockey > auto racing.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Very cool. I miss seeing the WRC on Speed Channel. I think it comes on Discovery HD or some such channel that I don't receive.
I like DTM too - though I haven't seen a race in awhile. Is Katherine Legge still racing in that?
And the one I'm going to start following (if I can) is the FIA GT1 World Championship - sports car racing should have a world championship too.
F1!
Mayhem
Banned
I don't have Discovery HD either but I've been getting my WRC fix on Youtube. Include the day in your search and you'll get it figured out.
:hatsoff:
WRC has become way my fave. And it's shaping up to be a great year!!!:glugglug:
Whatever category this is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjdwzftTbCE
The man 10 seconds in is my favourite driver.
I used to follow F1 in the late 70s and early 80s.
And also these motorcycles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ox8_SgqE24
I liked Kenny Bräck too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjdwzftTbCE
The man 10 seconds in is my favourite driver.
I used to follow F1 in the late 70s and early 80s.
And also these motorcycles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ox8_SgqE24
I liked Kenny Bräck too.
@BigSwede : As a Swedish citizen u should know it. This clip of yours is an old clip of the world - champion rally . The lady in the 1st 10 sec. is Michelle Mouton , ....drivin Audi Quattro this time. This kinda motorsport would be my 2nd choice, but it´s not mentionend above . My 3rd. would be * uphill - races * :wave2:
lechepicha
Prince of the Rotten Milk
F1, of course.
wanna know why? here:
http://www.untitledarchive.com/post_images/7966_f1-sexy-girls.jpg
wanna know why? here:
http://www.untitledarchive.com/post_images/7966_f1-sexy-girls.jpg
Eric Lindros
#88
Moto GP, Valentino Rossi kicks ass
f1 for me
Re: Why I favor the C6 Z06 ...
But yes, I agree on people buying the car without taking classes.
The Corvette has always been about building 30,000/year (on a good year), maximum storage and room in its class. If they go with a mid-engine design, they drop the production numbers and many of the advantages of the design. There are lots of other, mid-engine designs out there that have far, far fewer production numbers. If the Corvette didn't have its production numbers, given the number of Corvette-specific components, it would easily cost 3-5x as much. Corvette is inexpensive because of the volume, not because of the quality (although everyone agrees the interior needs some better styling -- which the C7 is supposed to).
The C7 will improve on the C6, which was designed from, largely, Pratt-Miller's Corvette Racing insights, over the C5 which was not (let alone C4). Despite what people think of Corvette, it's still the blue collar supercar -- while it might not be considered by most, anyone who knows anything about its performance agrees it's competitive with the best in its class (that cost 3x as much). Last time I checked, the C6 and Z06 are the only 400hp-plus cars without the gas guzzler tax (GM really kicks most manufacturers on gas mileage, non-hybrid, of course). Also, people don't look at the 60-120mph times, where the LS engine torque (yes, old push rod technology) flattens even some of the best supercars.
So I don't see the C8 changing to a mid-engine. There are rumors about a V6, which hasn't been seen since the C1. It really depends on what GM can do. As of right now, the small block push rod has a lot of life left in it. It will continue. At most the C8 might change to an OHC, maybe even a Turbo, but I don't see mid-engine ... ever.
I would both buy the car and put the money into classes. Again, it's more fantasy at this point. I still buy cheap 4-cylinders for a reason. I'm saving for retirement.
But yes, I agree on people buying the car without taking classes.
The C8 will be the next, major redesign, the bankruptcy changed everything. But a mid-engine engine? I don't think it's going to happen. At most, you'll get an one-off, specialty, non-production Corvette, which has been done before for mid-engine, OHC, etc...
The Corvette has always been about building 30,000/year (on a good year), maximum storage and room in its class. If they go with a mid-engine design, they drop the production numbers and many of the advantages of the design. There are lots of other, mid-engine designs out there that have far, far fewer production numbers. If the Corvette didn't have its production numbers, given the number of Corvette-specific components, it would easily cost 3-5x as much. Corvette is inexpensive because of the volume, not because of the quality (although everyone agrees the interior needs some better styling -- which the C7 is supposed to).
The C7 will improve on the C6, which was designed from, largely, Pratt-Miller's Corvette Racing insights, over the C5 which was not (let alone C4). Despite what people think of Corvette, it's still the blue collar supercar -- while it might not be considered by most, anyone who knows anything about its performance agrees it's competitive with the best in its class (that cost 3x as much). Last time I checked, the C6 and Z06 are the only 400hp-plus cars without the gas guzzler tax (GM really kicks most manufacturers on gas mileage, non-hybrid, of course). Also, people don't look at the 60-120mph times, where the LS engine torque (yes, old push rod technology) flattens even some of the best supercars.
So I don't see the C8 changing to a mid-engine. There are rumors about a V6, which hasn't been seen since the C1. It really depends on what GM can do. As of right now, the small block push rod has a lot of life left in it. It will continue. At most the C8 might change to an OHC, maybe even a Turbo, but I don't see mid-engine ... ever.
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