Watergate 2.0 in Progress

Supafly

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Echoes from those dark, Nixon, days

FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
What the Watergate 'Road Map' Reveals About Improper Contact Between the White House and the Justice Department


In a conversation between the president of the United States and senior Justice Department officials, the officials informed the president that two of his senior White House staff were under investigation. One of the officials later testified: “He said he couldn’t believe it. You know, just these are fine upstanding guys. Just couldn’t be, you know.” He impressed on the president, “We are here to alert you. We think we’ve got something. We could be wrong, but we are telling you it’s time for you to move to protect yourself and the presidency.” And he urged the president to “get rid” of the staffers in question; the president responded, “‘Yeah, and I don’t think I should. I’ve got to think about this and that and a thousand other things.’”

This happened in 1973.

One of the aspects of the recently released Watergate “road map” and related documents that attracted our attention is the set of materials pertaining to interactions, direct and indirect, between President Richard M. Nixon and two senior Department of Justice officials. The interactions cited in the road map occurred during March and April 1973. During that period, the president and his subordinates at the White House had contacts with Attorney General Richard Kleindienst and Henry E. Petersen, who was assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Criminal Division and is the official quoted above regarding the interaction with President Nixon. From June 1972 to May 1973, Petersen supervised the Watergate investigation conducted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington, D.C., and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). President Nixon was in touch with him frequently about the investigation, his future career and other matters along the way.

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https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-wa...ct-between-white-house-and-justice-department
 

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The party of Nixon & Trump, it only took 40 some odd years to get one worse than Tricky Dicky in The White House.
 

xfire

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Trump will be re-elected and you are going to be soooooo sad! :1orglaugh

I'll just let this hang out there with no direct response, just do me a favor and bump it when Trump is either reelected, loses reelection, is impeached, or indicted, whichever happens first.
 
Impeached is not removed from office. Indicted will not happen while in office. Losing to the clown car commies that will be running is highly unlikely.

Yeah, he’ll be re-elected and I’ll be happy to oblige you by bumping this thread as soon as his victory party fires up.
 

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Supafly

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One gem of these shenanigans is:

40 million dollars are still unaccounted for. Well, we knoiw that no sum is too petty for the Trump clan to snatch from their business partners and donors, especially if it is the american taxpayers

Trump inauguration spending 'under criminal investigation' after materials seized in Cohen case
It remains unclear how the president's inauguration costs ballooned to over $100m


Federal prosecutors have reportedly launched an investigation into Donald Trump’s inauguration spending to determine whether funds were misspent and major donors were offered access to the new administration in exchange for money.

The president’s inaugural spending was shrouded in controversy when millions of dollars allegedly were not properly accounted for, potentially violating federal laws as the organisation behind the inauguration festivities was a registered nonprofit.

According to the Wall Street Journal, “The investigation partly arises out of materials seized in the federal probe of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s business dealings, according to people familiar with the matter.”

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...el-cohen-crimes-money-dow-jones-a8682676.html
 
One gem of these shenanigans is:

40 million dollars are still unaccounted for. Well, we knoiw that no sum is too petty for the Trump clan to snatch from their business partners and donors, especially if it is the american taxpayers



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...el-cohen-crimes-money-dow-jones-a8682676.html

Yeah, because a multi-billionaire will sell out his presidency for 100 million dollars. If there was wrongdoing it was by people on the inauguration committee. Everyone in the donor class does it for access. Perhaps this will open the door for Hillary’s illegal pay for okay scheme to be investigated. It might already be under investigation. The feds are under no obligation to announce, deny or confirm an investigation.
 
POWELL: NEW FACTS INDICATE MUELLER DESTROYED EVIDENCE, OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/16/mueller-destroyed-evidence/

the Jan. 24, 2016 ambush interview of General Flynn by two agents

Flynn was notified in advance that an interview was desired. The subject of counsel arose, Flynn himself chose not to employ one. But according to Mr. Powell, Flynn was "ambushed" *lol*
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For Mueller to destroy this evidence is blatant obstruction of justice that warrants his immediate termination.

I see Trumpy and his doddering lapdog Rudy are peddling conspiracy theories to the faithful again.

Problem is: "An investigation by the Justice Department’s watchdog said the missing texts had nothing to do with any kind of malicious intent by former investigators Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. Instead, the missing texts— thousands of which were ultimately recovered by the way—had to do with a technology failure by the software the FBI used to sweep up the messages."

Oops. Oh well no big deal. The flock, like their shepherd, really aren't interested in facts.
 
the Jan. 24, 2016 ambush interview of General Flynn by two agents

Flynn was notified in advance that an interview was desired. The subject of counsel arose, Flynn himself chose not to employ one. But according to Mr. Powell, Flynn was "ambushed" *lol*
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For Mueller to destroy this evidence is blatant obstruction of justice that warrants his immediate termination.

I see Trumpy and his doddering lapdog Rudy are peddling conspiracy theories to the faithful again.

Problem is: "An investigation by the Justice Department’s watchdog said the missing texts had nothing to do with any kind of malicious intent by former investigators Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. Instead, the missing texts— thousands of which were ultimately recovered by the way—had to do with a technology failure by the software the FBI used to sweep up the messages."

Oops. Oh well no big deal. The flock, like their shepherd, really aren't interested in facts.

I am going to stop you right there. The FBI gave the impression to Flynn that the interview was a garden variety routine interview and that if Flynn wanted counsel present that it would complicate things and they would have to involve the DOJ. Flynn being a non lawyer bought their bullshit. Comey went around boasting about how he was able to pull a fast one on this administration.

McCabe said that he didn’t believe Flynn lied but interestingly enough there was not a 302 of the interview presented, only a 302 of Strzok’s statement several months later. When it comes to Trump and his supporters, it’s always this conspiracy shit or Trump supporters are sheeple. Fuck the padded popular vote, 30 out of 50 states voted for this president. We voted for building a wall, bringing back jobs, lower taxes and a stronger economy. As for conspiracies, Trump’s wires were tapped, FISA abuse did take place and spies did place themselves in an opposing campaign.

The lead agent interviewing Flynn was an unhinged Trump hater sent to save the world from the Trump menace to mainly impress his girlfriend.

You like to go on and on about Trump lies about this or that..

Here is 14 minutes of lies by your “ messiah” Obwama.
It’s not made up, it’s not out of context it is lies told by the liar in chief and his sheeple like you ate it up.


As a wise man once said, the left = suck and shit.
You carry the suck and shit and lies torch well.
 

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On we go...

Watergate 2.0?
Trump's presidency may end like Nixon's, but comparing the two is an insult to 'Tricky Dick'
Nixon was a man of substance, with immense political experience and a record of presidential achievement. The same cannot be said for President Trump.


The comparisons between President Donald Trump’s investigations and President Richard M. Nixon’s Watergate scandal have come thick and fast.

They became more urgent recently as special counsel Robert Mueller and the Southern District of New York filed their memos with the courts about the sentencing of former Trump associates Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen. Mueller sought to reward Flynn for cooperating with investigators and punish Manafort for lying to those same investigators. Cohen got a split decision: The Southern District was less impressed than the special counsel with Cohen’s performance, and sentenced him to three years in jail.

In between the redactions and the material filed under seal, it was hard to draw bombshell conclusions. But the allegation of campaign finance violations was clear — and, perhaps more ominous than the allegation itself, it described an underlying crime that would serve as a predicate for obstruction of justice. One can see the noose tightening around the president and people close to him. Trump responded by tweeting, “Totally clears the President. Thank you!” What?

Still, the Watergate comparisons are actually an insult to Nixon.

For all the comparisons made between the scandals, much separates them. Nixon’s fall was a classic tragedy. He was a man of substance, with immense political experience and a record of presidential achievement in both domestic politics and foreign policy. His own resentments and paranoia about his perceived enemies propelled him into Watergate.

There’s no such substance with Trump. His presidency has been one piece of tawdriness after another. To see the Trump tragedy, look to the Americans who are so estranged from the country’s institutions that they seem willing to risk blowing them up in order to be heard.

True, Nixon’s enemies would protest violently at the idea of Nixon as a tragic figure, a man of virtue marred by a fatal flaw. They should reconsider.

Prior to its ignominious end, Nixon’s presidency was one of consequential domestic and foreign policy. The former included initiatives — like peaceful school desegregation across the South, broadening civil rights protections to include gender discrimination, lowering the voting age from 21 to 18, creating the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, exponentially expanding the National Endowment for the Arts — that would later lead The New York Times’ Tom Wicker, once targeted on Nixon’s “enemies list,” to call him the “last liberal president.” The foreign policy achievements included not just the historic opening of China but nuclear arms limitations treaties with the Soviet Union and major action in the Middle East.

It is also true that the administration’s substantial policy accomplishments shared the political stage with racially and culturally divisive rhetoric — like the Nixon political team’s “Southern strategy” and Vice President Spiro Agnew’s attacks on the media. These things weren’t just political cover for progressive policy positions — they were expressions of sentiments that Nixon himself had developed over the course of his political career.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/watergate-2-0-trump-s-presidency-may-end-nixon-s-ncna947976
 
You know what else is different?

Nixon committed a crime to warrant a special prosecutor. Trump did not.

Be prepared for once Mueller releases his bullshit report, Trump will declassify the documents detailing FISA abuse.
An ace in the hole that Nixon never had.

In Progress

*lol*
 

I slogged through the first 4 plus minutes of this and not a single "lie" was told.

I saw a campaign promise about Gitmo that went unfulfilled, but of course no analysis about why. That would defeat the whole purpose here, wouldn't it? ;)
Then I saw a promise regarding withdrawing from Iraq that was rightfully altered out of respect for the subsequent signing of the SOFA agreement.
Then I saw his position on gay marriage evolving over time.
None of those things constitute a lie.

But thanks for an excellent example of the mislabeled, misleading simplistic trash the right so greatly subsists on :thumbsup:
 
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