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And once she was President and dealing with the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, how might her outlook or approach change pragmatically?

Your mistaking her with Donald Trump who's tough on migrant kids but soft on Putin.

People like Putin only respect one thing strength. If you try going soft on them, reaching to them, they will stomp you. But if you choose to go toe to toe with them, they might show respect
 
while as we know Flynn gave assurances to Kislyak that Trump and Co. would work towards eradicating them.

but have they?

and despite President Trump's warm words towards Putin (which the left is stupidly/disingenously focused on), what has his actual policy been? Cruise missiles on target vs. feckless red lines. Anti-tank weapons to Ukraine vs. MREs.

Germany importing their natural gas from us rather than Russia. A more committed NATO.
 
Sorry, the simple thought of Germany importing natural gas from the US made me laugh so hard I had to share that feeling with you guys, keeping it for myself would have been egoistic
 
Sorry, the simple thought of Germany importing natural gas from the US made me laugh so hard I had to share that feeling with you guys, keeping it for myself would have been egoistic

but why? Poland, another NATO member, is importing natural gas from the U.S.

What makes that so laughable?
 

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And once she was President and dealing with the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, how might her outlook or approach change pragmatically?

Not at all in my estimation. Even "Mom Jeans" Obama underwent the same transformation over the same event and never relented the balance of his presidency (2 years). I have no reason to think Clinton would have deviated from their mutual hawkish position. Putin played them both, and they never forgot it.

but have they?

The Republicans in congress have prevented it. While approving our most recent (and expanded) set of sanctions against Russia they specifically limited Trump's ability to alter or eradicate them, which Trump had a shitfit about. I guess I can understand why when even his own party's congressmen all but unanimously indicated they didn't feel he could be trusted to enforce their mandate.

Cruise missiles on target

Have those missile strikes done anything to alter the Putin/Assad alliance?

Anti-tank weapons to Ukraine vs. MREs.

I'll give you this one, though it's nothing compared to the damage Obama's sanctions did to Putin's inner circle, and Russia directly.

For those who are particularly conspiracy minded it might even be nothing more than a taxpayer funded means of improving Trump's optics.
 
but why? Poland, another NATO member, is importing natural gas from the U.S.

What makes that so laughable?
The cost.
I could be wrong but I imagine getting natural gas from the US across the ocean and then across France would cost way more than in a pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Again, I could be wrong I didn't knew about Poland. Makes me rethink my stance on the issue.

Now, Poland does it, ok but they signed the deal when their previous deal with Russia was coming to its end. I guess Germany too has a deal with Russia and Russia is not the kind of partner you want to irritate by not respecting the deal you have with them...
 

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The cost.
I could be wrong but I imagine getting natural gas from the US across the ocean and then across France would cost way more than in a pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Again, I could be wrong I didn't knew about Poland. Makes me rethink my stance on the issue.

Now, Poland does it, ok but they signed the deal when their previous deal with Russia was coming to its end. I guess Germany too has a deal with Russia and Russia is not the kind of partner you want to irritate by not respecting the deal you have with them...

I think it might have to do, that since the polish then president Lech Kaczyński died in a plane crash near Smolensk that has most likely been orchestrated by Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/07/smolensk-plane-crash-lech-kaczynski-poland-russia

I would not buy ANYTHING from Russia after that stunt, if I were in the polish administratioin, and I would really make sure NATO is on guard at all times.
 
‘Ridiculous’ Mueller Indictment Omitted Russian GOP Targeting, Nunes Says
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/07/r...s/?utm_medium=ppt&utm_source=pushnotification
Yep, and had Mueller and Rosenstein included this information it would completely discredit that the Russians were trying to help Trump win. I mentioned this earlier but what would totally blow up the narrative would be for the Russians that were indicted to plead not guilty, retain counsel and start the discovery process. Mueller would have to turn over evidence to the defense and then his investigation will implode because he has no evidence and he is trying to convict unicorns and rainbows. Mueller and Rosenstein’s assholes would pucker actually having to prove their case. But you know, Watergate 2.0 in progress. *lol*
 

georges

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I always check the georges Fisher Report first thing for my morning news.

You have a very special sense of humor ;). Like I told before, I don't need someone to tell me what I should think especially when it comes to politics. Two things for sure , I will never be on the democrat side and I am anti Obama.
 
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