Warships

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

We have a thread on Aviation that I really like but I wonder if anyone else is enthused about Warships. Historical, or current. USA or worldwide. I'll start out with a few pics of a US Navy Fleet exercise that took place either in the late 1930's or very early 1940's. I got this from a Chinese site that I found a few days ago

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

 

[Mr. Daystar]

There was a good episode of "Battle 360" on the military history channel today, about the USS Enterprise and its importance in the Pacific during WWII.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

 

[gmase]

The USS United States: The first frigate authorized for construction by the Naval Act of 1794.

USS Constellation (now housed in Baltimore). Beware when you're eating/drinking al fresco on the inner harbor. They like to engage the cannons.


The HMS Majestic: A British battleship which took part in the Naval Bombardment on the Dardanelles.

 

[Pornfan99]

I visited Patriots Point a number of years ago, while visiting Charleston. What a fun day! They have a submarine, destroyer, and aircraft carrier - that you have access to probably 75 percent or higher of the entire vessels.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

King George V(Britain WWII)​

Italian battleship Roma (1940)

USS Texas 1912

USS Texas Today

Richelieu France WWII Era

 

[D-rock]

These might be the some greatest warships we will ever see also, or at least for a pretty long time as they continually become more impractical militarily. We are fast approaching an age where a missiles costing a few millions dollars can too easily take out multi-billion dollar ships, and it's getting harder to maintain defenses against that compared to the advancements in technology to take the ships out. A military asset that starts to become so costly that people are scared to lose it is also one that's practically useless from that point on.

 

[maildude]

The first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the U.S.S Enterprise.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

These might be the some greatest warships we will ever see also, or at least for a pretty long time as they continually become more impractical militarily. We are fast approaching an age where a missiles costing a few millions dollars can too easily take out multi-billion dollar ships, and it's getting harder to maintain defenses against that compared to the advancements in technology to take the ships out. A military asset that starts to become so costly that people are scared to lose it is also one that's practically useless from that point on.

You are certainly right. The same thing can be said for almost any piece of military equipment today. Doesn't seem to stop them from being used when the management of a country wants to though does it? This is just a thread to look at and honor the ships and people who fought to defend their beliefs. Whether we believe the same things or not.

 

[tvstrip]

IJN Yamato

You can't have a battleship thread without the greatest one in history. Maybe not in combat record, but in pure strength, it's hard to argue any other battleship (without post-WWII missiles etc) could have taken it down in a one-on-one battle. Nothing came close to her nine 18.1"/45 guns, which each weighed as much as a destroyer. You'd have to go to German artillery to get that kind of firepower.

 

[Pornfan99]

Damn; the Yamato looked bad-ass!!

Per Wikipedia:
In a desperate attempt to slow the Allied advance, Yamato was dispatched on a one-way mission to Okinawa in April 1945, with orders to beach herself and fight until destroyed, thus protecting the island. The task force was spotted south of Kyushu by US submarines and aircraft, and on 7 April 1945 she was sunk by American carrier-based bombers and torpedo bombers (19 aerial torpedoes hit her!) with the loss of most of her crew.

 

[tvstrip]

Damn; the Yamato looked bad-ass!!
(19 aerial torpedoes hit her!)

While it took at least 17 hits (11 torpedoes and 6 bombs) to sink Yamato, it took 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs to sink her sister ship the Musashi (that was before they realized it was more effective to just attack one side of the ship). You literally needed 2 squadrons of bombers to all score hits in order to sink it.

It's kind of ironic that she was basically kept in storage for most of the war and then thew her away in the biggest kamikaze mission in history.

I got to visit the Yamato Museum in Kure where she was built, and they have a 1/10 scale model replica, as well as a 1/1 scale setting of the front half of the ship outside. It's really mindblowing how huge she was, and yeah, she looked bad-ass as they come!

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Yamato​

Iowa​

Bismarck​

Nagato​

HMS Hood

 

[tvstrip]

The Army's Mind-Bending 1,000-Mile Cannon Is Coming. Could It Bring Back Battleships?​

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...egic-long-range-cannon-bring-back-battleship/

Interesting article suggesting that battleships could make a comeback if this cannon is real. At the projected range of this cannon, you could be sitting in New York Harbor and hit Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota and Mississippi. Or be sitting in Tokyo bay and hit Pyongyang, or be in the Port of Hiroshima and hit Beijing. (It's kinda fun to see the possibilities) All with GPS guided shells at what you could assume would be a fraction of the cost of a cruise missile.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I would guess they would build a new type of ship around that gun. something smaller and faster then a battleship, but larger then destroyers and cruisers.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Couldn't access the story about guns but if it's Railguns there is promise there. I guess from what I have read the problem is it needs so much power that it will overwhelm a ship's electrical capacity after a few shots.

 

[tvstrip]

Couldn't access the story about guns but if it's Railguns there is promise there. I guess from what I have read the problem is it needs so much power that it will overwhelm a ship's electrical capacity after a few shots.

That's odd. It's just a regular article on the website?

It's a modernized version of a conventional cannon, so no crazy energy requirements. Shells would presumably be cheaper and take up less space, so it would be perfect for area bombardment or single tactical shot.

The U.S. Army is working on a new, long-range cannon it claims can reach out and strike targets at up to 1,150 miles. If the technology works, the Strategic Long Range Cannon (SLRC) promises the ability to fire 50 times farther than existing guns. But the new gun also has the potential to bring back a dormant class of big-gun warships once thought gone for good: the mighty battleship.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Asked for a subscription from me.

Googled it for more info. Seems they are just starting to look at this. Somewhere between a missile and a shell. Be interesting to see.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

USS Alaska (CB-1)

Scharnhorst Germany

Gneisenau Germany

British three Decker

HMS Victory