Voluntary, one child policy

[ballzano]

with a flat rate as in 1-2 kids per couple, the population would still decrease, due to stupidity on the kids part. I graduated almost 20 yrs ago, before i hit 20 yrs of age we lost 10 of the graduating class due to premature death. Car accidents was the big one, a couple from odd stuff (just fell over, didn't get up) brain aneurism. next year the class reunion.... well i hope i'm there, cause you never know

 

[Nomad 800]

It's simple math. If the world can barely feed the present population, then any extra may end up starving. So every couple has to have less then 2 kids or the population will continue to grow.
What the hell a couple needs two kids for anyway? Like raising one was SO easy? If it was, they probably weren't doing it right.
But you can't make it a law. China tried it and the result was millions of abortions and murdered newborn baby girls. It has to be voluntary. And if people are too stupid to realize the obvious and stop having so many kids, then humanity doesn't deserve to survive.

 

[Rattrap]

But you can't make it a law. China tried it and the result was millions of abortions and murdered newborn baby girls. It has to be voluntary. And if people are too stupid to realize the obvious and stop having so many kids, then humanity doesn't deserve to survive.

And therein lies the kicker: the smart people are smart enough not to breed, and the dumb ones continue to. The result? Intelligence is bred out of gene pool.

 

[Will E Worm]

i apologize in advance to the progressives here. i am going to say two things, and this is just an observation. i'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it is a fact.

1) all life is driven by one biological imperative: to reproduce.

nothing can ever stop this, not global starvation, not armageddon, not ted turner.

2) population is self-regulating. war and starvation. that's it.

all the best intentioned plans of altruists and hypocrites alike will never change this, or be anything more than mental masturbation.

besides, what are david rockefeller and ted turner really trying to accomplish in the. . .bohemian grove?:anonymous

I agree. But, most guys just want to "hit it and quit it."

Armageddon would destroy civilization.

Instead of The Bohemian Club you're thinking about the Bilderberg Group.

Bilderberg exposed - Part 1/6


The Systemic Conpiracy

 

[Guillermo]

And therein lies the kicker: the smart people are smart enough not to breed, and the dumb ones continue to. The result? Intelligence is bred out of gene pool.

Exactly. Those who need to have less kids will not do so. Do not fool yourselves into thinking you'll make a difference by not having kids: it's those who would give no regard to such who will continue to breed whether you do or not. The best you can do is keep up the levels of your own genes. Europe is actually facing a depopulation problem, not an overpopulation problem.

He's a little late on this. The New Agers already have this written in their own American Stonehenge - The Georgia Guidestones. They make people feel bad for even living.

Some people just hate man.

 

[calpoon]

while I do see the possibility of an Idiocracy future, I just can't really see "keep up the levels of your own genes". as a good solution. stupid people are having ten kids? sure. so "smart" people should have 20 to even the mix? not a good idea, IMO.

 

[LBP 76]

And therein lies the kicker: the smart people are smart enough not to breed, and the dumb ones continue to. The result? Intelligence is bred out of gene pool.

That is a VERY good point. I never considered that.

 

[LBP 76]

Exactly. Those who need to have less kids will not do so. Do not fool yourselves into thinking you'll make a difference by not having kids: it's those who would give no regard to such who will continue to breed whether you do or not. The best you can do is keep up the levels of your own genes. Europe is actually facing a depopulation problem, not an overpopulation problem.

Sounds like you think you are intelligent, want to or have had numerous offspring and are trying to justify that with your point.

 

[Guillermo]

"Keep up" is not the same as keeping up with the stupid people. It would just be slightly over 2 kids. As for trying to justify anything, huh? I'm too young (19) to even consider having children, and I can't see myself ever having more than 3.

Moreover, why should I have to justify having children? To avoid being an embarrassment to people I don't know?

As for thinking I'm "intelligent", being above average does not require much at all. Most of the people you people probably consider morons, are probably average.

 

[ninetysixcavy]

maybe this should be exercised first in well lets say, countries with limited carring capacity were famine and drought are normal occurances and breeding is done at the drop of the hat. (where the aids epidemic is the worst also) mostly eastern africa. this isn't a bad idea but lets work on the worst offenders first. We dont want to breed ourselves out of our own civil liberties, we can still have children 1-2 not 4-5. one or two kids would be flat growth, not per mate (thinking of alot of single women i know) per person

with the U.S. in mind certain social circles are generally known for having more children than others, i would hate to be punished (socially or economically) for having two children (instead of one) because a poor immigrant family has ten and cannot afford to pay the extra tax

Your two posts here are correct. I'm not entirely sure about figures (except for China and India - 1/3 of the worlds pop. and complete shit-holes) but I will say the majority of people breeding out-of-control are third-worlders. So... I should somehow adhere to this guilt trip you scum try to make me feel because I am first-world? :wtf: I don't feel guilty and I will never feel guilty...especially for something happening in the world I (and my ancestors) had nothing to do with. And another thing, isn't a lot of this rhetoric race based? It seems only to apply to countries in Europe or America. What's that all about?

that's a load of rubbish. what about mormons and religious nuts that don't believe in birth control? they all have like 12 kids. and rich people have a shitload of kids too, because they have to pass on the family history of their slave owning ancestors, and because they are the only one's that can really afford it.

you are right though, it's the working class people that get the shaft always.

Mormons and religious nuts? FYI: There's not many polygimast practicing Mormons in first-world countries. There are, however, pleanty of polygamist practicing Muslims in the world, particularly the aforementioned thrid-world areas. Slave owning ancestors trying to pass on their family history? That's so pathetic it's not even worth responding to.

while I do see the possibility of an Idiocracy future, I just can't really see "keep up the levels of your own genes". as a good solution. stupid people are having ten kids? sure. so "smart" people should have 20 to even the mix? not a good idea, IMO.

Calpoon,

You sound like that guy that said we should stop breeding altogether to rid the earth of our species because of all the damage we have done. :lame: Just for you, I will try to have at least 6 children. I would advise all here who could afford to to do the same.

 

[calpoon]

I didn't say anything about polygamy. I was talking about "regular" mormons and religious nuts, of which there are plenty.

you're going to have six kids because of me? well then I'm going to have seven abortions because of you.

 

[ninetysixcavy]

I didn't say anything about polygamy. I was talking about "regular" mormons and religious nuts, of which there are plenty.

you're going to have six kids because of me? well then I'm going to have seven abortions because of you.

First off, I'm just playing. I'm not going to have 6 kids, not that it's anybody's business, but I just don't have the time for such a commitment. Also, I think that Islam is far more detrimental to population growth than any other religious "nut". Doesn't Osama have some 30 plus kids? Yeah, that sure sounds like your typical religious (read Christian) family. More like 5 times that.

Listen, it all sounds good to me, but I don't think anybody in America should go out of their way to tie their tubes or anything. That's just ludicrous. Especially considering that more people in the West have the resources to have kids. I say, more power to ya'. As far as Ted Turner is concerned; I think he should just go jump off one of his buildings or something. Ever heard that quack talk? Yeah, he's a real great individual to base such a decision on.

 

[Friday on my mind]

First off, I'm just playing. I'm not going to have 6 kids, not that it's anybody's business, but I just don't have the time for such a commitment. Also, I think that Islam is far more detrimental to population growth than any other religious "nut". Doesn't Osama have some 30 plus kids? Yeah, that sure sounds like your typical religious (read Christian) family. More like 5 times that.

Listen, it all sounds good to me, but I don't think anybody in America should go out of their way to tie their tubes or anything. That's just ludicrous. Especially considering that more people in the West have the resources to have kids. I say, more power to ya'. As far as Ted Turner is concerned; I think he should just go jump off one of his buildings or something. Ever heard that quack talk? Yeah, he's a real great individual to base such a decision on.

While I know I won't be changing your mind here.It must be said that while all people in the world need to be concerned with over population and try to work towards reduction it is without question very important for countries who consume a lot of resources as they and their children have much more eviormental impact to participate in that.As to ted I have heard him speak quite a bit over the years and IMO he is a very bright individual.But I don't need Ted to tell me the world population and over use of resources is something that can't be sustained.The evidence is everywhere.

 

[sputnikgirl]

I don't believe this policy could become a 'voluntary' one. I feel that there would need to be a strong element of legislation to make it worthwhile and ultimately successful.

I would support it, because I'm sick of paying the biggest tax bill to support deadbeats like my fiance's ex-wife, who use men to produce children then dump the men...all so she never has to work a day in her life. They get free healthcare, food, housing...basically kids are the biggest economic incentive in this country right now.

The system can't force people to work, and there's no incentive to work. That's a huge fucking problem that NONE of the presidential candidates have addressed.

It's a symptom of the bigger problems. Millions of 18-24 year olds are investing in their education, only to get absolutely no return on their investment. My fiance and I have to work like prostitutes just to make ends meet, and we have a BA and an MA. We can't afford to go back to school, buy a used car, a house, or anything else remotely luxurious. We have debt out the ass, and no resources. Life is just grand here in the good 'ole USA.

 

[Nomad 800]

My fiance and I have to work like prostitutes just to make ends meet, and we have a BA and an MA.

Like prostitutes?

 

[sputnikgirl]

Like prostitutes?

Meaning, we have to take whatever work we can find. We don't have enough money to just quit working or to take a big risk, like finding a different job in a different city...we don't have the $ to move.

 

[stainedblueyes]

And therein lies the kicker: the smart people are smart enough not to breed, and the dumb ones continue to. The result? Intelligence is bred out of gene pool.

Sense at last...

 

[ninetysixcavy]

No need to worry about us, right....because we'll just import more people to support the dying "baby-boomer" generation. That's what all the ultra-leftist' want, right? As if that's not a walking hypocracy; in one breath, the ultra-leftist says "don't breed, we're killing the environment." Yet, in the same breath, the ultra-leftist says "we must open the borders - allow x-millions of foreigners to sustain our population growth - to compete with other countries, and to support the baby-boomer generation." Hypocracy at its finest. And again, it only applies to the West. Why do we need to import immigrants when at the same time people are telling us to stop making our own babies? Answer that one for me hyporcites. impdaddy

 

[Facetious]

^ Great points ! :hatsoff:


The idea is Marxist, as is Turner. Like he's been a subject

Communism is an egregious and extreme form of capitalism -
Fewer yet all the more wealthy, corrupt and domineering, ruling class.

 

[YMIHERE]

^ Great points ! :hatsoff:


The idea is Marxist, as is Turner. Like he's been a subject

Communism is an egregious and extreme form of capitalism -
Fewer yet all the more wealthy, corrupt and domineering, ruling class.

Marx and Engels reacted very strongly against Malthus' population theory.