The Trump Presidency

[xfire]

Right. Dear Leader had nothing to do with the debt. You jock sniffers would suck his dick today, and pay him to do it, you love(d) him so much.

Stop projecting your homoerotic Trump fantasies on to sane people.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Stop projecting your homoerotic Trump fantasies on to sane people.

Well I'm just sayin'...


liberals like you love politicians (hence the Che t-shirts and shit) whereas a legitimate conservative like me - for the most part - finds politicians to be of the sort of lowest life forms on the planet.



I'm neither a fan nor a a real critic of Mr. Trump. To me, he's just another in a line of presidents of which I don't have much interest in.


I did vote for him - based mostly on the Supreme Court appointments he would make - but I don't spend my day fantasizing about the man like liberals do.

 

[Rattrap]

There are plenty of Obama policies that are significant in the debt growth during his term.

Sure, insofar as 'significant' is meaningless without context.

More significant than the national budgets under Congress's purview? You want to take that position?

Remember what we're arguing. It isn't whether Obama is good or bad - I do not support, like, or think Obama was a good president. I voted against him. Do not mistake my anti-bullshit stance for a pro-Obama stance. If you had something other than bullshit to sling, we'd likely find agreement.

We're arguing over this:

Obama was the biggest mistake this country has ever made. (Bush isn't far behind...)

The metric you gave for that was debt. For which Congress is primarily responsible. So, by your own metric, your original assertion is bullshit.

Would you like to choose another metric, or do you want to leave your assertion in such a state?

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Sure, insofar as 'significant' is meaningless without context.

More significant than the national budgets under Congress's purview? You want to take that position?

Remember what we're arguing. It isn't whether Obama is good or bad - I do not support, like, or think Obama was a good president. I voted against him. Do not mistake my anti-bullshit stance for a pro-Obama stance. If you had something other than bullshit to sling, we'd likely find agreement.

We're arguing over this:

The metric you gave for that was debt. For which Congress is primarily responsible. So, by your own metric, your original assertion is bullshit.

Would you like to choose another metric, or do you want to leave your assertion in such a state?

Debt was the easiest to point out. ACA, DACA, his AA antics and on the list goes.


I don't have time to play this game with you though. Your assertion (gaslight) about him not having an effect on the debt though...yeah. Yeah ok, Obama had zero effect on the debt.

 

[Rattrap]

Debt was the easiest to point out. ACA, DACA, his AA antics and on the list goes.


I don't have time to play this game with you though. Your assertion (gaslight) about him not having an effect on the debt though...yeah. Yeah ok, Obama had zero effect on the debt.

If only I had actually said that.

I'll take the turn to misrepresenting statements as a concession that your assertion is garbage. I'd recommend you stop making such shit statements, but fuck it, we both know you'll keep on keepin' on with that. I can safely assume parsing over your other metrics will meet similar intellectual dishonesty.

Well, back to the shitshow that is the Trump presidency.

 

[xfire]

Well I'm just sayin'... liberals like you love politicians (hence the Che t-shirts and shit) whereas a legitimate conservative like me - for the most part - finds politicians to be of the sort of lowest life forms on the planet. I'm neither a fan nor a a real critic of Mr. Trump. To me, he's just another in a line of presidents of which I don't have much interest in. I did vote for him - based mostly on the Supreme Court appointments he would make - but I don't spend my day fantasizing about the man like liberals do.

Don't "liberals like you" shit. Only I speak for me, and I wouldn't wear a "Che" shirt or anyone else. You certainly do a lot of cheer leading for Trump to be so disinterested and if you want to talk about fantasy land, that's exclusively owned by dotards that pretend Trump has done nor can do any wrong. Conservatards liked to pretend that Liberals would defend Obama to the death, which was wholesale untrue, then they turn around and nominate and get a fucker elected that could, "shoot someone on 5th Avenue" with no fallout from his simpleton base.

 

[Mayhem]

Obama DID have zero effect on the debt.

I don't give any credibility to anyone mentioning the debt if they are not constantly voicing their opposition to the wall.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

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If only I had actually said that.

I'll take the turn to misrepresenting statements as a concession that your assertion is garbage. I'd recommend you stop making such shit statements, but fuck it, we both know you'll keep on keepin' on with that. I can safely assume parsing over your other metrics will meet similar intellectual dishonesty.

Well, back to the shitshow that is the Trump presidency.

I answered your question with a quote from a liberal article. Here it is again:

Obama is often criticized for punting the stimulus to Capitol Hill. But while Congress wrote the bill,*the president dictated its principles and most of its specific content.*Its major initiatives on tax cuts, energy, education, health care and the economy came straight out of his campaign agenda. The final bill emerged from a list of spending items drafted by the White House.

 

[sean miguel]

I realized at that moment that I love our President. He is and will be the greatest president in modern day American history.

MAGA

I do love our President, because he genuinely loves America. I've seen the alternative firsthand. A good part of it is how he triggers the left and puts their hate, pettiness (Melania's high heels) and general shittiness on display for all to see.

I think he kicks the shit out of Reagan when it's all said and done.


We finally have an independent, and for all intents and purposes a third party president that people have been clamoring for. His base gets it. The establishment soon will.


Go Bannon. Drain that fucking swamp.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I do love our President, because he genuinely loves America. I've seen the alternative firsthand. A good part of it is how he triggers the left and puts their hate, pettiness (Melania's high heels) and general shittiness on display for all to see.

I think he kicks the shit out of Reagan when it's all said and done.


We finally have an independent, and for all intents and purposes a third party president that people have been clamoring for. His base gets it. The establishment soon will.


Go Bannon. Drain that fucking swamp.

He definitely functions like an independent. I can get behind that. Necons. and liberals are losing it over the fact a non-political could push his way into their little space. Fuck 'em all, I do love the fact Trump is shitting on all sides of the system.

 

[meesterperfect]

I love Trump!
I love him because he kept This person out of The White house for at least 4 extra years.

Other than that I really don't care for him.
He didn't drain no swamp, the swamp drained him ( Clever right?).
But I guess a deals a deal.

 

[pool_hustler]

I do love our President, because he genuinely loves America. I've seen the alternative firsthand. A good part of it is how he triggers the left and puts their hate, pettiness (Melania's high heels) and general shittiness on display for all to see.

Pretty much exactly the way I felt about Obama. Just replace Melania's high heels with Michelle's sleeveless dresses, simian appearance and having a dick.

 

[Mayhem]

Of the known members on is Board over the last couple years, there is absolutely no one who liked/likes Hilldawg. Those of us who voted for her did so holding our nose. I know of no exceptions.

I understand why Hilldawg shows up constantly in other forums but it's pretty pointless to do it here. Back to the Weinstein thing, I don't give a shit about a statement because I don't give a shit about her.

 

[mongo18]

Plenty of reasons but the biggest and easiest to point is that he doubled our national debt in his short 8 year stay in office.

DOUBLED.

More than EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT in American history combined.

OK, I know numbers are hard, but you're using 2 different measurements here, you should try to stick to one. I'll make it easy for you.

"Doubled" is a percentage increase, meaning the debt increased under Obama by approximately 100%. It was actually 68% (5th highest of any president). Under your boy Reagan the US debt increased by 186% during his reign. For the sake of your own argument, you should leave out the doubled part.

As a total dollar amount, the debt did increase by more during Obama's term than any other president. I think that's a pretty dishonest way to argue, and % increase paints a much more accurate picture, but honest arguments clearly aren't your thing, so you'll probably go with that in future.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296


Edit: I'm not getting into the whole "how much of the budget is the president responsible for" thing, it's been covered. But if the debt is your whole beef with Obama, you should be feeling kinda stupid.

 

[mongo18]

I do love our President, because he genuinely loves America. I've seen the alternative firsthand.

Yeah, I don't think Obama loved America, I think he was president just because of how easy it was for him. Sure were no obstacles for that guy during his presidency, nothing but adulation all day every day.

A good part of it is how he triggers the left and puts their hate, pettiness (Melania's high heels) and general shittiness on display for all to see.

I wonder what hate, pettiness, and general shittiness from the right would look like??? If only we had some example in living memory...

 

[sean miguel]

Yeah, I don't think Obama loved America

I think he loves it as much as you do. Not what was or what is, but what could be.

I think he was president just because of how easy it was for him. Sure were no obstacles for that guy during his presidency, nothing but adulation all day every day.

those tear-stricken crowds. Public school teachers leading songs of praise and worship to him to their first-graders, that thrill going up Chris Matthews' leg. Up until 2011, he had no obstacles. And we got that abortion Obamacare.

I wonder what hate, pettiness, and general shittiness from the right would look like??? If only we had some example in living memory...

I'm just watching CNN, so I wouln't know.

 

[Supafly]

Let's wait how the IQ boasting vs Tillerson pkays out, if he wants to back up THAT twitter bs he put out recently.

"I am talking with myself"

"I've got a very good brain"

"I have the best words"

Oh yes, and this gem:

 

[xfire]

Trump begs for praise from his own staff. Show ONE fucking instance where Obama did that. Can't because he didn't. What a fucking sycophant, "Praise Trump" coming from a bunch of clowns that have the audacity to call other people "cucks", you sad sacks would gladly clean up after Trump when he was done plastering his seventy year old semen all over your wives and girlfriends (or boyfriends) face.

 

[mongo18]

Let's wait how the IQ boasting vs Tillerson pkays out, if he wants to back up THAT twitter bs he put out recently.

"I am talking with myself"

"I've got a very good brain"

"I have the best words"

Oh yes, and this gem:

That would be amazing if it happened. I'm sure we'd all love to know the IQ of this potato head. But I think we all know he's going to weasel out if he can't rig it. He's clearly terrified of people finding out how truly stupid he is, he thinks he is hiding it!

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Trump begs for praise from his own staff. Show ONE fucking instance where Obama did that. Can't because he didn't. What a fucking sycophant, "Praise Trump" coming from a bunch of clowns that have the audacity to call other people "cucks", you sad sacks would gladly clean up after Trump when he was done plastering his seventy year old semen all over your wives and girlfriends (or boyfriends) face.

In the history of America the "media" had never fawned so much as their perverted love affair with the Kenyan.



Get over yourself - as if you're exempt from the absurdities surrounding politicians.