The Trump Presidency

[sean miguel]

luxman meet meester.

 

[meesterperfect]

luxman meet meester.

What the heck is that supposed to me AF?

Oh wait? Lux was being sarcastic?

I hope so because:
Drum roll please.

We were at peace with Iran, for the most part.
Now we are not.
Why?
Well it wasn't bad enough that in the 1950's we fucked up their country with the whole Shaw thing.
No need to get into why that was done.

I still find it hard to believe that any American can still have their head so far up their ass that they can't see that Israel/USA are the bad guys in this entire situation.

This is the situation.
Saudi has been attacking and killing in Yemen for over 5 years.
With not only the blessing of the US but with bombs and bullets we supply.
We pay for them, you and me.
And our puppet leader doesn't fake cry for dead and starving Yemeni Children.

Israel is bombing and killing in Syria.
Again with the blessing of the US and bombs and bullets we supply.

Israel/USA have been increasingly threatening Iran.
Israel is calling for the US to attack Iran. Meaning all out war.

Meanwhile what has Iran done?
Nothing. In fact I think they are showing an incredible amount of patience.

Look what they are faced with.
Not too long ago The US armed a country called Iraq with a shit ton of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
So they can use them on Iran.
Then when that didn't go as planned and the leader of Iraq had the nerve to sell oil for other than the dollar the US said.
"He has weapons of mass destruction" and they attacked the country, killed the leader and his family.

Given this situation, if you were Iran wouldn't you want Nukes as a deterrent?

Then the US made a deal with Libya.
Libya did exactly what the US wanted. Their leader even stepped down to save his people.
But the US attacked and killed them anyway. Then "let" Al-Qaeuada take it over the day the bombs stopped.
And our lovely Madame Secretary them took a tour of Africa and told each country, "Do what we say or we'll do the same to your country".

And Iran did nothing.

Now the US has a PREZ and other puppet politicians openly threatening Iran.
That evil Israeli who is clearly above Trump in the oligarchy pushing for an attack on Iran.

So what should Iran do? What would any of you do?

Final point.
Syria. The Fake News calls it a civil war.
It never was. Its Al-Quada fighting against the Government of Syria.
Where does Al-Quaeda get all this money to buy an army that size? The Media never asks that question.
They have turned that ancient country into a pile of rubble over the past 6 years.
Now our GREATEST ALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST is attacking Syria openly now that most of the Al-Quaeda boys have shaved their bears and gone home.

If Syria (and Iran) has been fighting Al-Qaueada all this time, then why is the US/Israel not helping?
After all Al-Quaeda is our mortal Enemy correct.
They did 9/11 right?
The US spends Billions and Trillions fighting them and keeping people safe from them correct?
And those billions and trillions of borrowed money goes into someones pockets right?

So then why is Israel/USA not fighting and destroying them in Syria. Libya, Iraq?
Is it because they can't? They can't destroy that army of mercenaries?
Surely the great Israel and US Militaries can handle a bunch a mercenaries no?
Instead they call the people fighting Al-Qaeuada an enemy and attack them?
Does that make sense in any way?

Why do you suppose that is?
The answer is obvious. The answer to that question exposes every lie we were told since Sept 11 2001.
The only question is do you have the balls to accept it.

 

[bodie54]

Another bad news for the trump haters, Levin: Mueller Has No Constitutional Authority To Subpoena Trump
https://www.westernjournal.com/levi...aign=dailyam&utm_content=conservative-tribune

Has Levin consulted with Giuliani about this?
Or for that matter, has Giuliani consulted with himself? Because 20 years ago [in reference to Clinton] he stated that the Watergate case “resolved the fact that the president is not above the law, is not able to avoid subpoenas.”

 

[bodie54]

Then the US made a deal with Libya. Libya did exactly what the US wanted. Their leader even stepped down to save his people.

No Gaddafi did not step down. Where do you get this stuff?

I do agree with you that that the Trump/Netanyahu alliance is dangerous. That was quite a production Bibi put on for butt buddy Trump just before Trump bailed on the nuke deal Very reminiscent of the way Bushco sold us the Iraq war.

 

[georges]

No Gaddafi did not step down. Where do you get this stuff?

I do agree with you that that the Trump/Netanyahu alliance is dangerous. That was quite a production Bibi put on for butt buddy Trump just before Trump bailed on the nuke deal Very reminiscent of the way Bushco sold us the Iraq war.

Because you trust Ahmadinejhad and Ayatollah Khamenei as well as his Syrian buddies, the Hezbollah, the Al Aqsah Martyr Brigades, the Fatah, the Hamas more than you trust Israel??? You know that Iran is a radical islamic republic, so why should it be trusted??Israel is the best ally of the US in the Middle East and this since many decades.

 

[georges]

Has Levin consulted with Giuliani about this?
Or for that matter, has Giuliani consulted with himself? Because 20 years ago [in reference to Clinton] he stated that the Watergate case “resolved the fact that the president is not above the law, is not able to avoid subpoenas.”

The Clintons are a bunch of scumbags, Bill a liar under oath and Hillary a disgusting socialist swine and a liar too. The clinton foundation has been subject to investigation
https://www.investors.com/politics/clinton-foundation-scandal/
Let's not forget this too
https://www.investors.com/politics/...eset-button-on-hillarys-disastrous-2016-loss/
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-russia-scandal-democratic-rebuttal-memo/
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/the-double-standards-of-the-mueller-investigation/

Need I say more??? I don't think so

 

[bodie54]

The Clintons are a bunch of scumbags, Bill a liar under oath and Hillary a disgusting socialist swine and a liar too. The clinton foundation has been subject to investigation
https://www.investors.com/politics/clinton-foundation-scandal/
Let's not forget this too
https://www.investors.com/politics/...eset-button-on-hillarys-disastrous-2016-loss/
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-russia-scandal-democratic-rebuttal-memo/
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/the-double-standards-of-the-mueller-investigation/

Need I say more??? I don't think so

What does any of this have to do with subpoenas and presidents?

 

[bodie54]

Because you trust Ahmadinejhad and Ayatollah Khamenei as well as his Syrian buddies, the Hezbollah, the Al Aqsah Martyr Brigades, the Fatah, the Hamas more than you trust Israel??? You know that Iran is a radical islamic republic, so why should it be trusted??Israel is the best ally of the US in the Middle East and this since many decades.

Yes Georges I'm well aware of Iran's extremist elements.
I'm also aware of how the U.S. has meddled in Iran's affairs of state and war and what the repercussions of doing so have been.
I'm also aware that Iran's current president staked his reputation on the benefits of the nuke deal. The whack job fundamentalists were against it. Now thanks to Mr. Trump they will appear to have been right. Score a very big win for Islamic fundamentalists and their propagandists.

Yes Georges I know quite a lot about Israel I have family that lives there and I am 1/4 jewish which probably allows me a more insightful and objective view of what's going on there than most.
Yes Israel has been a fine ally for the most part but this does not mean Israel is flawless.
You will I'm sure remember that even your hero Mr. Reagan engaged in some very heated policy disagreements with Israel.

 

[Supafly]

The decisions get more and more wild, and the fussing and fighting, via twitter or via proxies that go out and muddy the water and create fires elsewhere to lure the public view away from the criminal investigation and the bundle of not just shady money dealings, rather flat-out illegal, it is getting nearer the end.

And so our fan boys get razier and more aggressive, too

It does not matter what you guys post here. It will get a LOT worse before he is going to fall.

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The decisions get more and more wild, and the fussing and fighting, via twitter or via proxies that go out and muddy the water and create fires elsewhere to lure the public view away from the criminal investigation and the bundle of not just shady money dealings, rather flat-out illegal, it is getting nearer the end.

And so our fan boys get crazier and more aggressive, too

It does not matter what you guys post here. It will get a LOT worse before he is going to fall.

 

[georges]

Yes Georges I'm well aware of Iran's extremist elements.
I'm also aware of how the U.S. has meddled in Iran's affairs of state and war and what the repercussions of doing so have been.
I'm also aware that Iran's current president staked his reputation on the benefits of the nuke deal. The whack job fundamentalists were against it. Now thanks to Mr. Trump they will appear to have been right. Score a very big win for Islamic fundamentalists and their propagandists.

Yes Georges I know quite a lot about Israel I have family that lives there and I am 1/4 jewish which probably allows me a more insightful and objective view of what's going on there than most.
Yes Israel has been a fine ally for the most part but this does not mean Israel is flawless.
You will I'm sure remember that even your hero Mr. Reagan engaged in some very heated policy disagreements with Israel.

I would rather trust Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia than Yemen, Qatar, Libya, Syria, Iran and Lebanon. Anyone who says to me that the Clintons are respectable people can't be objective and insightful and that same comment goes about Barry's presidency that yet some people describe as great but which in fact was beyond mediocre and shitty.

I have some long time friends that live in Israel, some of them were serving during the first lebanon war and others served in operations Accountability (1993), Grapes of Wrath (1996), Defensive Shield (2002), Raibow (2004), Just Reward (2006), Orchard (2007) and Cast Lead (2008-2009). I often talks politics with them. All of them were and are mostly supportive of Benjamin Natanyahu as well as Ariel Sharon, they never liked the left wingers whether it comes to Israeli and even US politicians. Some of them stayed and made a carreer in the military others made a carreer in the defense, counter terrorism,finance and computing sector.
I know that a lot of jews in the USA tend to vote Democrat but the Democrats are hardly supportive of Israel. Natanyahu didn't like Obama this much and not many people in Israel probably didn't like dear Leader as well. The Clintons have set up the Wye Plantation talks but which was a failure. And most of people who are patriots in Israel vote for the right wing not for the left wing.
I believe in peace through strenght not in peace through submission especially with ayatollahs and radical islamists.

 

[Supafly]

 

[meesterperfect]

No Gaddafi did not step down. Where do you get this stuff?

I do agree with you that that the Trump/Netanyahu alliance is dangerous. That was quite a production Bibi put on for butt buddy Trump just before Trump bailed on the nuke deal Very reminiscent of the way Bushco sold us the Iraq war.

Its a little complicated. I shouldn't of used the term step down.
He had a lot of titles. He wasn't an elected president. The Tribes chose him. The people wanted him. The Libyan people loved him.
And of course the Fake News said "He wouldn't step down".
To that I say who the hell is the US to tell someone to step down? Are they Supreme or something?
They sure think they are.

Anyway, You are correct. It's very very similar to the whole Bush and Co. thing.

I'm very glad you see that.

See we are sold WAR every time.
They literally sell it to The people. And it always worked.
It worked in for Iraq and Afghanistan. It worked on me.

By the time they decided to destroy Libya and put all of Africa back down(This done by the supposed 1st African US President) they didnt really try to sell it much. They just did it. And the American Sheeple didn't protest because they didn't want to be called racist.

But now their hard-on for Iran is starting to hurt.
They can't take it anymore. They need release.
But they gotta sell this one. Puppet Trump ain't got that Ben Vereen thing goin on like Barry had.
Unfortunately for them there are a few things that are keeping them back.
One is that Americans are sick of war.
Americans are wiser now when it comes to the real reasons for these wars.
Another is they haven't forgot Iraq and the bullshit they used to sell that one.
And another is the Trump Voters.
Not the ones that were sold by the "They Took Our Jobs" angle but the ones like me and millions of others who voted for him because he was gonna pull out of the Middle East.
Stop the Endless Wars.
And create a good relationship with Russia.
Can't MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN if youre borrowing Billions and Trillions for endless wars.
And like I said so many times, people need to think about not only all the money spent on this shit but of who's pockets this money goes in to.

Trump tricked us. Period.
He is clearly fully on board with this.
Not comprimised and his hands aren't tied. He's into it. Lovin every minute of it.

The only slim possibilty is that maybe he is doing all this just to appease the NEOCONS/Neolibs he has surrounded himself with.
So many.
I mean John Bolton again is a perfect example.
So maybe he is just playing war but has no intentions of letting any real damage happen. But I doubt that is the case although I hope.

 

[meesterperfect]

I would rather trust Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia than Yemen, Qatar, Libya, Syria, Iran and Lebanon. Anyone who says to me that the Clintons are respectable people can't be objective and insightful and that same comment goes about Barry's presidency that yet some people describe as great but which in fact was beyond mediocre and shitty.

I have some long time friends that live in Israel, some of them were serving during the first lebanon war and others served in operations Accountability (1993), Grapes of Wrath (1996), Defensive Shield (2002), Raibow (2004), Just Reward (2006), Orchard (2007) and Cast Lead (2008-2009). I often talks politics with them. All of them were and are mostly supportive of Benjamin Natanyahu as well as Ariel Sharon, they never liked the left wingers whether it comes to Israeli and even US politicians. Some of them stayed and made a carreer in the military others made a carreer in the defense, counter terrorism,finance and computing sector.
I know that a lot of jews in the USA tend to vote Democrat but the Democrats are hardly supportive of Israel. Natanyahu didn't like Obama this much and not many people in Israel probably didn't like dear Leader as well. The Clintons have set up the Wye Plantation talks but which was a failure. And most of people who are patriots in Israel vote for the right wing not for the left wing.
I believe in peace through strenght not in peace through submission especially with ayatollahs and radical islamists.

Submission to what?
Iran and Syria or even Yemen are not asking anybody to submit to anything.
Its The US Israel and Saudi that are making the demands.
Giving ultimatums......like always.
And dropping the bombs and killing people........""
And you throw Libya in there? In Libya radicals were thrown in jail or exiled. Even men having a beard was discouraged, and few did.

I believe you make some sense in your post, but your overall perception is from a biased and dishonest media and some Israeli military friends who of course are going to be pro-war. They are soldiers, they were conditioned to conform and they make their living on it.
.
To use the word Trust regarding Israel and Saudi Arabia truly baffles me.

Ok take care.

 

[Supafly]

And this blistering commentary on Trump's constant lies and fake statements, from FOX News! That's fresh

 

[georges]

More about the subplots against Trump
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/wall-street-journal-suspected-fbi-mole-planted-in-trump-campaign/
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/t...-porn-lawyer-is-your-savior-youre-in-trouble/
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/lawyer-avenatti-back-taxes-suits/

 

[meesterperfect]

Hi Everybody.
In another thread today I predicted it was possible that Trump was going to be made into a He-Ro soon.
Possibly.
My theory was in response to an article posted by our very own georges regarding Israel issuing a coin in honer of Mr Trump because he's such a great puppet, I mean President.

I wrote something like this if I recall:

In the article you posted Mr Trump is the Hero.

My theory (in a Nutshell so to speak).

1- Trump gets chosen, not elected, by the rich fucks who control everything.
(if you can't accept that leaders are chosen and not elected might as well leave now).

2- Right out of the gate, even way before, the MEDIA portrays him as a Bad Guy.
Convinces a lot of people that he is bad. Trump accepts the role graciously and nails it. Boo-Yeah!

3- Trump behaves, acts, and does things that even make many of his base question him and feel betrayed.
The only ones left still behind him are people like some of the people here.
This pretty much guarantees that he will be A ONE TERM PREZ.

4- Isreal and the USA start the usual shit again in the Middle East. This Time Iran is the threat.
And potential War with Russia.
Lotsa talk of War, bombs still dropping in Syria.
Costly military maneuverings.
Everybody scared and on edge.

5- Then Trump comes in and SAVES THE DAY.
And the media promotes this. , "Maybe We Were Wrong About Him".
And he gets chosen for a SECOND TERM.
Nobel Peace Prize?
And the show goes on.

Ok, just a light prediction. Just something I sense might be in the early stages of production. I was thinking about it recently then the Israel Trump Coin kind of rekindled those old feelings from the day before.
The Resurrection of Trump?

Then i just looked at the Drudge page to see what Fear Porn was being done today and the 1st thing I see is this, 2 "News" articles:


NOT FUNNY: Kimmel Says America Tired Of Trump Bashing...
Paul Ryan says president will be asset for Republicans...

Kimmel and Ryan both going positive on Trump?
And right after Israel says he's a Hero?

What's next? Rosie calling Trump a Father Figure?
Tune in this time to tomorrow to find out.
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[The Yak]

Something I found interesting:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/387215-kelly-trump-embarrassed-by-russia-probe

The headline at the link above reads: Kelly: Trump embarrassed by Russia probe.

Some of you may be aware that Kelly Trump was a popular German pornstar of the late nineties-early 2000s. The headline got me thinking 'I wonder what Kelly Trump does think of the Russia investigation'. She may not be interested in American politics. Even if she does follow American politics, she likely wouldn't feel embarrassment over the Russia investigation because she had not direct involvement in it. That being said, how do we know that Kelly Trump was not involved in some way? Stormy Daniels re-entered the popular culture due to alleged past involvement with President Trump, why not Kelly Trump? Kelly Trump may very well be the mastermind behind the whole thing. Robert Mueller should interview her. I bet that gets results.

 

[meesterperfect]

That's very insightful Yak.

Drudge top Headlines today

JEWS, ARABS CLASH ON TEMPLE MOUNT
IDF BRACES FOR VIOLENCE
TRUMP PUSHES PEACE
IVANKA AND JARED ARRIVE


Awabs and Jews are fighting again (so they say).
The Awabs are the aggressors( ditto).

But look, TRUMP PUSHES PEACE! Whatta Pal Whatta Pal Whatta Pal.
TRUMP PUSHES PEACE, TRUMP PUSHES PEACE, DOG PILE ON THE RABBIT, Trump PUSHES PEACE!

Yes He's a Peace Maker says the news. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

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[Supafly]

 

[The Penis Mightier]

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