the problem with neo-cons, namely, is that they dumped billions into the black hole Africa to fight AIDS; they sent us into a war for oil and we've took it in the ass instead; they have allowed political correctness take over the party; they elect people like Sarah Palin and Insane McCain to have been the nominees the past election; they have pandered to the illegal alien population for votes (Bush ring a bell); they dumped billions into "no child left behind"; it goes on and on. Really, they are really like the liberals of Americas past - essentially just massive spenders - period. James Traficant is more of a "conservative" than the neo-cons. This is more like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0X3DJZWTY&feature=player_embedded
The Problem With Conservatives Is...
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jasonk282
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That might be true, but there are more white people trying to be ghetto in the suburbs than vise versa.
They automatically take sides on issues they have not even think about it well, because that is what is expected of the party. The same can be said of so called liberals.
There are some things that I agree with conservatives, but giving them a vote is worse than putting a knife through my neck for reasons that should be obvious.:2 cents:
There are some things that I agree with conservatives, but giving them a vote is worse than putting a knife through my neck for reasons that should be obvious.:2 cents:
America has yet to complete it's dialogue on race. It is not a left right discussion although there is a history of chancers on both sides of the aisle trying to make it so for gains at the ballot box. This thread is not the place to hold that discussion.
As an aside, someone of my vintage and background (English born in the mid60's ) has a set view of what it means to be conservative. To see this noble philosophy ground down into an angry popes dickful of ideas that will never bear fruit, is depressing beyond belief.
Currently the biggest problem with conservatives is that they wear ignorance like a bade of honour.
As an aside, someone of my vintage and background (English born in the mid60's ) has a set view of what it means to be conservative. To see this noble philosophy ground down into an angry popes dickful of ideas that will never bear fruit, is depressing beyond belief.
Currently the biggest problem with conservatives is that they wear ignorance like a bade of honour.
unfortunately there was a shitload of democratic creeps in the House that got us into the Iraq quagmire, so your point is not entirely true. I liked Clinton and as bad as Jimmy Carter was, character wise I liked him as well. I'm not old enough to go beyond that point, so...Obama's gonna run this fucker into the ground though. I woulda voted for Hillary had I had the chance, but, no.
Whoops I missed this. I haven't got a clue what you mean. (Plantation politics?) I have to agree with Medved (The religious conservative) the great cities to live in are all liberal. And in the case of NYC SF Portland, Seattle, Boston a liberal state too. Where are the great conservative cities out there in, "Real America?"
The Problem With Conservatives Is....
They are closed minded and think since a war criminal was caught on foreign land by US allies that the war criminal should be tried by military tribunal instead of in the US court system like a US citizen with US citizen rights when they never set foot in US for their crime. The demo's are so smart to grant rights to someone that show boats to incite their cause and wants to blow themselves up to kill one american. NYer's can suck it up when the trial comes to their city.
They are closed minded and think since a war criminal was caught on foreign land by US allies that the war criminal should be tried by military tribunal instead of in the US court system like a US citizen with US citizen rights when they never set foot in US for their crime. The demo's are so smart to grant rights to someone that show boats to incite their cause and wants to blow themselves up to kill one american. NYer's can suck it up when the trial comes to their city.
The Problem With Conservatives Is....
They keep bringing up a partial soultion to health care costs would be tort reform. How stupid is it to think that frivolous lawsuits raise the cost of malpractice insurance for all doctors which in turn raises the cost for med care? The demo's are right to never consider something that actually addresses med care costs.
They keep bringing up a partial soultion to health care costs would be tort reform. How stupid is it to think that frivolous lawsuits raise the cost of malpractice insurance for all doctors which in turn raises the cost for med care? The demo's are right to never consider something that actually addresses med care costs.
jasonk282
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime#Punishment
War crimes are "violations of the laws or customs of war"; including "murder, the ill-treatment or deportation of civilian residents of an occupied territory to slave labor camps", "the murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war", the killing of hostages, "the wanton destruction of cities, towns and villages, and any devastation not justified by military, or civilian necessity
Well if he is in fact a WAR criminal then a military tribunal is in order. The Nazi's were war criminals and they got a military tribunal not tried in American courts. Why should we grant someone US citizen rights when oh IDK THEY ARE NOT A US CITIZEN?
IMO this 9/11 terror trial is about revenge on Bush/Cheney and the CIA and I have a feeling that the Dems are going to pay for it once again at the polls. Also your giving this guy what he wants, huge WORLD WIDE stage to be a maryter for Islam. I am sorry but IMO terrorist, who don't have a US citizenship, should NOT be tried in US civil courts, military court is the way to go.
Self segregation in schools is something that is perceived by many to be a problem. Go into any school lunchroom and you will see whites sitting with whites and blacks sitting with blacks. How is this a problem? I would like to remind you that this very thing is enshrined in our constitution. Freedom of association... Anyone has the god given right in this great country of OURS, to associate with whomever they please. You can lambaste them on there choices, but one thing you are not entitled to do, is to legislate to try to change this...
I also can't really grasp how you have a problem with citizens of a certain district spending there tax dollars. Why should the citizens of lets say, district A, be forced to spend there tax dollars to help the citizens of district B? The federal government spends vast amounts of money for really no effect in many minority districts. The true problem cannot be helped by govt intervention, it begins at the home of the child. For example, the D.C. school system has the highest per capita spending on it's pupils in the ENTIRE WORLD! Yet, they have an absurd drop out rate and many valedictorians cant even read proficiently or measure with a ruler... I blame the parents and the teachers union..
Police departments have a tendency of patrolling in high crime areas, so what... If i want to catch a fish i dont fish out of my septic tank...
there really are no conservative cities, maybe a handful... were all in flyover country. And to let you know that is a part of 'real AMERICA' too.... Please google plantation politics.. this isnt a class or seminar, come armed properly.
You are all over this subject on this and as to where i 'think' i get your point im not too sure of it (ill try not to step on toes).. These men should be treated as agent provocateurs imo... During ww2 the german special forces used germans who spoke excellent english to misdirect traffic at various way points. it was very effective and caused masssive logistic problems.. these men were all shot and denied habeas corpus.
Also, imagine being part of this jury! Sequestered for months away from work and family. And all the while mullahs are issuing fatwahs against you.. This trial belongs under the jurisdiction of a military court...
Supafly
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I am picking just this one to show your errors.
Were you asleep in the last twenty years, or did someone cut out every article about the companies keeping down the wages with their two favorite ways of defending that:
A ) While the economy blossomed: 'Be careful, workers -we got to save up for the bad times. If we just keep the pay low for some more years, we can push our plants in this country and not have to go abroad.'
Effect: Gullible people step back from their request to get their fair share of the profit they fabricated. Management gets a massive raise in management bonuses.
B ) When economy drops, you see in on the news todays, of course, they must say: 'Now is the time to all stand together and try to weather the storm. If all of us just makes his small sacrifice, we can make it through.'
Effect: Everyone wants to keep his job, because in times like these, there are hardl any new jobs floating around. Strangely enough there still are bonuses and even if some managers drive the company against the wall and the company is crippled by their poor decision, they gat their bail-outs and their bonuses. Workers tend to rather become homeless in those cases.
The bottom line:
Workers get fucked by the conservative way of handling loans and taxes, either way the country fares.
I couldn't agree with you more. I see too many closed minded bigots that are liberals and conservatives.
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