The Problem With Conservatives Is...

[Will E Worm]

Will E Worm is one. ZING:nanner:

Wrong again. :hatsoff:

 

[lurkingdirk]

The problem with conservatives is they are generally fatty and salty. Not bad if you have a good bread to serve them with.

 

[titsrock]

The problem with conservatives is they're going to have a lot to explain for, with regards to this decision, when they try to keep this from coming back to ~haunt~ them...

Palin v McCain begins...

 

[feller469]

if these posts were audio, I bet at least four would cause the speaker to foam at the mouth (ala Monty Python)

 

[thepeeper]

Views on Goverment

Conservative: Small Goverment. Goverment should only defend its people and make law. Uncle Sam cannot and should not make our descisions for us in our personal lives. No man should ever be forced to pay for the lazyness or misfortunes of another. Conservatives believe in the induvidual to make his own life for himself and his family.

Liberal: Big Govermant. Goverment can be counted on to regulate social programs for people. Goverment should provide Social/Socialized programs such as Healthcare and Welfare paid for by the taxpayers to help the less affluant.
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Taxes

Conservative: Tax as little as possible to maintain the govermants role in making law and defending a nation. Ensure businesess arent taxed so much that they are firing workers and moving overseas. Everyone should be taxed the same percentage without discrimination of wealth. Trade should be free. The economy will be stronger, there will be more jobs, and people will be more weathy if goverment taxes as little as possible.

Liberal: Tax to pay for social programs that help the less affluiant. Tax the rich a far higher percentage than any one elts. Charge businesses taxes based on how sucessful they are and their effect on the enviroment. Make sure that everyone gets paid at least a mandated minimal wage.
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Healthcare

Conservative: Healthcare should be paid for and chosen by the induvidual. Health care providers should be able to compeat nation wide.

Liberal: Healthcare should be provided and paid for by the federal goverment. Taxes should be raised to pay for everyones healthcare.
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Welfare

Conservative: No man should be charged to pay for another mans misfortunes or lazyness. Welfare only makes people dependant on the federal goverment. Tax Free and indepoendant organizations should take care of thoes in need.

Liberal: Tax the Affluent to pay the wages to the less affluent who have no job or home. It is everyones responsibility to ensure that the poor are taken care of.
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Religion

Conservative: No man has the right to ristrict anyone from praticing their religion any where as long as they arent forcing others to join their religion. Children have the right to pray in school. Religious simbols may be posted in schools and goverment buildings.

Liberal: Religion should be compleatly left out of all goverment buildings and schools both from praticing it and displaying it, as it may offend otheres who do not share the same beliefs.
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Equal Oppertunity/Affirmitive Action

Conservative: No one should be given special privlages because of their race. People should be amitted to colleges because of their GPA and people should be hired and premoted based on their experience.

Liberal: All colleges, jobs, and job promotions, should accept/premote a certain precentage of minoritys based on their skin color, as America is naturally racist.
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Abortion

Conservative: People should accept responsibility for their actions if they become pregnant. Aborting a child should be illegal.

Liberal: Abortion should be legal and the choice of the woman. A child is not a child untill it is born.
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Gun Control

Conservative: Everyone has the right to own a firearm with the exception of felons that have comitted violent crimes, as the federal goverment cannot always guarentee your familys saftey. Restricting firearms will only give non compliant criminals an advantage.

Liberal: Guns should be restricted if not banned all togather. Guns only create more violence and therefore taking guns off the streets will lower violence.
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Illegal Immigration

Conservative: Illegal Immigrants should be deported. Children born of Illegal Aliens should not guarentee citizenship. A fence should be built on the Mexican Border and regulated by Border Patrol and electronic servalence. Businesses who hire Illegal mmigrants should be punished. Cops who pull over or arrest anyone should ensure their legal status.

Liberal: We should legalize all Illegal Immigrants in who are allready here as they are a needed workforce. We should only patrol the Mexican boarder and use electronic servalence. It should be Illegal to make people prove their legal status if they are pulled by a cop.
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Schools

Conservative: Schools should be able to fire non preforming teachers. Ultamatly a childs upbringing and education is the responsibility of the parents. Teachers Unions only prevent poor teachers from being fired and ensure that they can keep their job no matter how they preform.

Liberal: A childs education is the responsibility of the state. Teachers unions are a great way to guarentee benefits and encourage more people to become teachers.
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Diplomacy with our enemies.

Conservative: We should shut off all dialog and sanction thoes who are a threat to ourselves and other countrys. We should not establish diplomacy with terrorists or thoes who harbor terrorism. Talking to enemy countrys will only happen if they show an honest effort to become less of a threat to people and their rights.

Liberal: We should talk to our enemies and maintain constant dialog with them while showing our intent to help them. Showing that we are not a threat to them will encourage them to change their ways.

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If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.

A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".

Very well stated.

Liberals hate truth when it applies to them.

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

*wades in* first off let me tell u what i am... i am an extremely conservative libertarian.. THINK PAT BUCHANIN w/o the christianity... with that said let me begin.
I am not closed minded at all! I have been known on many occasions to change my mind on a subject if i am presented with a coherent rationale for doing so... I am not a racist! I do not support palin, she is a quitter! I am not a registered republican! I like guns and 99% of the time i am legally armed with a concealed carry.. i could go on forever with this so i will digress...
I have no problems with liberals, being a natural gadfly i love to debate and provoke. however i actually listen to the arguments and needs of others and dont use sound bites- at least I think i do.. anytime one has a political debate u should never have it with the intention of converting the other to ur way of thinking! i myself just speak my mind with the sole intention of defending the opinions of those who think like me...
Every single one of the great society programs was a failure... helping people achieve there dreams is imo not the govts job.. if u want to do something with ur life GET TO WORK!
re: welfare.. i work in a critical industry-one that everyone needs.. hvac-electrical-plumbling-water. the company i work for deals with social services to handle the needs of those people who apply for them.. and i have to tell u around 80% of the social service calls i respond to are fraud. theres nothing like going into someones house seeing a big screen tv and hundreds of cds and dvds, and there gtg a free 1300$ heater and a 500$ oil tank plus free oil. one time i had to pull a circuit to a ladies free a/c unit and i had to get to the back of the box and the only way in was thru her closet. so i emptied it... nuthin but stacks and stacks of designer clothes n shoes! i wear wal mart and work 70 hours a week... most of these jerks are drinkin beer when i get there... sry 4 the ramble i could go on for hours about this!

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Undoubtedly, with a few notable exceptions here and there, they make fucking shit artists. Name your art form and the talented end is dominated by lefties.

Michael Medved, (If I have spelled that correctly) the conservative pundit ,admitted that he could not understand why that all the great US metropolitan cities in which you can still live downtown were Liberal. (New York, Boston, Seattle, San Fran Cicago etc) He thought conservative principles put in practice would produce the best cities. So the problem with Conservatives is that although they talk a good game about values etc they are unable to get on with their neighbours.

well blacks and identity politics are in charge of nearly every major american city... they always vote democratic... plantation politics rulz the day.. and btw i get along with my neighbors so much so in fact i dont even have to lock my doors.... i used to find it funny how the d.c. school board would blame the lone republican on the board for screwing everything up.. he had no power at all... they made there bed now lie in it...

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

conservatives are crap artists for a simple reason of biology. left brain thinkers are the great artists.. that is the part of the brain where emotions and feelings are most abundant..
whereas right brain thinkers who are crap artists ill admit... it is true... the right side of the brain handles logic, deductive reasoning and various other thought processes that lead to this wonderful lil thing called civilization....

 

[Philbert]

There's just not enough of them...



(I've always said...the only good Democrat is a conservative Democrat.)

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

ack i screwed up... reverse the polarities on my previous post... right brain thinkers are the great artists and left brain thinkers are the logicians... i knew something was wrong so i had to check.... and i was right...

 

[jasonk282]

My brother used to work for the cable company and he would say the same thing everyday. he go to a house and see a car sitting on dubs, 60in plasma, home theater but he was to turn the cable off cause they never paid their bills some had no electricity or water.

He quit a few years ago after he was installing cable in one of Pittsburgh's housing areas(projects) and a guy asked if he could install free cable for him, my brother though he was joking and said yeah right, then the guy pulled out a gun and threatened to shoot him. He gave the man free cable and then went back to the office and quit.

These are the people that the Democrats are fighting for? How sad.

 

[georges]

My brother used to work for the cable company and he would say the same thing everyday. he go to a house and see a car sitting on dubs, 60in plasma, home theater but he was to turn the cable off cause they never paid their bills some had no electricity or water.

He quit a few years ago after he was installing cable in one of Pittsburgh's housing areas(projects) and a guy asked if he could install free cable for him, my brother though he was joking and said yeah right, then the guy pulled out a gun and threatened to shoot him. He gave the man free cable and then went back to the office and quit.

These are the people that the Democrats are fighting for? How sad.

The people who vote for dems like a laxist state against criminals and like a nanny state too.

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

yep jasonk282 i see it everyday in my field of work... i have yet to have a gun pulled on me though. but then again i just think thats mr 9mm keepin em honest THOUGH i dont flash some have asked about the buldge... most people couldnt believe the amount of luxury items these people on welfare have... today thankfully i dont have to deal with it... my day off! i got a case of beer and and 5 pounds of lasagna.... heaven

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Here you go, an all-purpose, 24/7 thread strictly for complaining about The Conservatives!! (But conservatives can come here, too, if they want to defend themselves against SPECIFIC CHARGES made in THIS THREAD.)

Have at it! :hatsoff:

so... where are all the liberaly minded posters? too scared to get in the mix? where are the specific charges? i dont see much defending by conservatives at all... hell i think im only posting to conservatives... where are u liberals? come here come here come here.... i would actually like an open debate forum thread with regards to political ideology... guess they dont have the balls... prove me wrong plz!!!! our arguments will win on its merits!

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Is when I try and juxtapose some of their positions on some issues with some of their positions on others and finding consistency.

Like their seeming love for things considered the "outdoors" but their ignorance and almost disdain for anything which preserves the environment.

You would think some of them would be the biggest environmentalists (for example).

Or their penchant for religion but their seeming obsession with greed and appearing more greedy than those they claim are "Godless".

actually in my own lil micro environment conservatives are leading the charge with regards to the environment... i live right off the Chesapeake bay, a beautiful area that has seen massive devastation from pollution... one of the problems we have in this area is that our local state delegate wont even talk to the head of the va. water-mans association becuz he is a republican. Albert Pollard said to him "im not talkin to you ur on the other side" one would think that something so crucial as keeping up this beautiful area of the usa would be non partisan... but........... it aint..

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

conservative gentlemen! i thank u! it appears we killed the liberal bitching thread!!! they ended up being too scared to post i guess... dont rest on ur laurels! work hard! prove ur right by example and deed! i was even completely shitfaced that whole day.. LOL...
i myself wont make a 'the problems with liberals thread' but i will support one if made.. i see no point in lambasting the other side becuz it leads nowhere... tkz guys!

 

[Wainkerr99]

They demand and expect everything to be done their way. Which would mean Emperor Nero was a Conservative.

Hmm, that bears some pondering.

 

[titsrock]

He quit a few years ago after he was installing cable in one of Pittsburgh's housing areas(projects) and a guy asked if he could install free cable for him, my brother though he was joking and said yeah right, then the guy pulled out a gun and threatened to shoot him. He gave the man free cable and then went back to the office and quit.

These are the people that the Democrats are fighting for? How sad.

How sad? How sad is it that we still practice racial segregation in America? Housing "projects", ghettoes, barrios and white suburbs ARE the problem.

America is organized to pit one race against the other, basically. If we want to truly have a "United" states of America than we can't be afraid of people based on their skin color, and we can't make assumptions by people, based on their skin color.

A public school system funded from tax dollars generated from property taxes does nothing but separate the "haves" from the "have nots."

Isn't it convenient for Police Depts to know exactly where to patrol? It's it convenient when all the crime is focused in one or two areas?

 

[jasonk282]

How sad? How sad is it that we still practice racial segregation in America? Housing "projects", ghettoes, barrios and white suburbs ARE the problem.

America is organized to pit one race against the other, basically. If we want to truly have a "United" states of America than we can't be afraid of people based on their skin color, and we can't make assumptions by people, based on their skin color.

A public school system funded from tax dollars generated from property taxes does nothing but separate the "haves" from the "have nots."

Isn't it convenient for Police Depts to know exactly where to patrol? It's it convenient when all the crime is focused in one or two areas?

I never said anything about race in my post for a reason wanna know why?

It was a WHITE guy that pulled a gun on him in the "projects". You just assumed it was another race based of the facts that I provided.

 

[titsrock]

^
Yeah, and the way you positioned those facts especially in the first paragraph. It doesn't matter though. Barrios, ghettoes, white suburbs are all residential areas with severe racial majorities and they're pitted against each other :dunno: