The majority of the oil going through the Straight of Hormuz is bound for China

Will Iran really dumb or crazy enough to block the Straight of Hormuz?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Still can't decide

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8

Ike Stain

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Still think Iran is going to blockade it? If you do, you've either never heard the term realpolitik or assume they are crazy or stupid. Based on the current success of their policies however (and regardless of how at odds they are with our values and agenda) I have a hard time believing they are stupid, and if they are crazy, then they are "crazy like a fox." But then, that's just my opinion. What is yours?
 

Facetious

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Re: Will Iran really dumb or crazy enough to block the Straight of Hormuz?



They're both dumb and crazy enough to be awaiting for the arrival of the "12th imam"... does that answer your question? :cool:

If not today, then tomorrow... or next year etc.
 
That's true. We in America get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico, with the Middle East someplace down the list. But for some reason, when the shit hits the fan in the Middle East and oil prices go up for us over here too. So I guess that would be the only reason America does have troops over there to protect our interests and prevent the shit from really hitting the fan.

But from that point of view, are our boys are just fighting and dying to keep the supply of oil open for....the Chinese? :dunno: It kind of makes you see things in a different perspective, maybe the Chinese should send its boys over there to deal with Iran the next time those nutjobs decide to throw another tantrum, after all, keeping that region peaceful is in their own best interests since a huge chunk of that supply of oil goes their way. And by the way, who do you think Iran would prefer to deal with, the U.S.A. or the P.R.C.? That would be sort of like asking a petty criminal who does he prefer to deal with, the cops or the mafia? And if for some reason the Iranians keep throwing their tantrums, just offer the Chinese the assistance they need to invade Iran and do the dirty job America is too afraid to do because of the opinion some hippies might have about that.
 

Facetious

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People forget that a 1% reduction in our oil supply is huge! Furthermore, we can't just cut Japan's supply to make up for the difference should a 1% cut in supply ever manifest itself. I guess you could say that we're operating on the margin... it's really scary! ... foolhardy too!

redspider said:
But from that point of view, are our boys are just fighting and dying to keep the supply of oil open for....the Chinese?

Nauseating, isn't it?
 

Ike Stain

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They're both dumb and crazy enough to be awaiting for the arrival of the "12th imam"... does that answer your question? :cool:

No crazier than Christian, Jewish or Mormon fundamentalists. I mean, we had a born-again Christian in the White House for 8 years and...

:facepalm: Nevermind.
 
the Chinese should send its boys over there to deal with Iran the next time those nutjobs decide to throw another tantrum,
Actually China is scared of Iran and the Middle East. All their past wars fought, they have lost to the muslims. Too bad China is already surrounded by 2 Billion Quran thumping muslims, and 1.5B Indians to the South. The future is bleak for China. And worse when Iran develops nukes and decides to launch a few dozen into every Chinese city.
 
^Jesus come on you can't be serious? the chinese military would not fear any shithole in the middle east bar maybe saudi arabia and israel.....the connection, they both have been armed like fuck by the US and field some seriously modern combat systems and the doctrine to use them(probably copied too).

Now even saying that the Chinese have been nicking stuff for ages, First it was good russian tech and now its probably some american tech. they reverse engineer and by doing so learn all they need to know to create their own shit. they are likely well prepared to negate uncle sam's superiority by waging asymmetrical warfare. Cyber warfare and carrier destroying missiles etc.

Iran is a natural ally of china too as they likely provide a lot of oil to them. But I reckon neither them or Russia will back Iran when it comes to it. Why bother when all they gotta do is stall you while Iran gets stronger or better prepared to fight a war of attrition. It's win win for them. America the hegemon leader is embroiled in another war she won't win, spending tons of money and further sapping the will of the american people.

PS> Iran will never nuke anyone. If I was them I would want the nuke too, the only guarantee that someone will think twice about invading you. You must think iranians are stupid. Yes lets nuke guys who have inter continental ballistics missiles by the thousands. Even Israel has a ton. Should see their generals quote about being a wild dog "too dangerous to bother" As in they got their shit aimed at europe.

PSS> Europe pisses me off. We seeded your damn country no offense. We got tech. Hurry up and integrate and form a standardized army which could flex when it was absolutely necessary. Be nice to also show the yanks that fighting isn't something they are exclusively good at.
 

Ike Stain

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^Jesus come on you can't be serious? the chinese military would not fear any shithole in the middle east bar maybe saudi arabia and israel.....the connection, they both have been armed like fuck by the US and field some seriously modern combat systems and the doctrine to use them(probably copied too).

If Iran did try it, the likely result would be US action with China's backing. But it'd be Iran cutting off its nose to spite its face, so, as you say, it's never going to happen.


PS> Iran will never nuke anyone. If I was them I would want the nuke too, the only guarantee that someone will think twice about invading you. You must think iranians are stupid. Yes lets nuke guys who have inter continental ballistics missiles by the thousands. Even Israel has a ton. Should see their generals quote about being a wild dog "too dangerous to bother" As in they got their shit aimed at europe.

PSS> Europe pisses me off. We seeded your damn country no offense. We got tech. Hurry up and integrate and form a standardized army which could flex when it was absolutely necessary. Be nice to also show the yanks that fighting isn't something they are exclusively good at.

Seriously. America is broke. We can't afford to keep footing the bill for world security.
 
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