The Biden Presidency

Seems the issue was with more how the troops were pulled out. Maybe Trump would have done the same but maybe not. We will never know because Joe is the driver trying not to confuse the gas and break pedal in 2021.
 
In 30 days, unlikely. I still approve of his job, but optically it is a rough patch for him.

He is being hurt by two issues gifted to him:
- Afghanistan - he followed through on Trump’s agreement.
- COVID - heavily Republican states are seeing surges of the virus. Republicans are still fighting against COVID measures.

Biden will own parts of these messes very shortly. Keep in mind Trump railed against Obama for his entire 4 years. Biden is only two-thirds of a year through.

The most logical question for me: what would be different with Trump there? We may still be in Afghanistan pouring blood and resources into an unwinnable position. A position no one would care about yet because it would not be on TV. Recall Trump touted his great deal with the Taliban.

On COVID it would not be any better - or any different actually. In fact, it may have been worse.
I think it's clear that Biden handled the situation no better that if the US was under trump. If anything, trump's unpredictable nature may have kept the taliban from being too aggressive while the withdrawal was going on. There is a change they might have been scared into waiting; although the refugee fallout would be no different.
As it stands, I think they felt they could risk walking over biden, and it turns out they were right.

COVID... I don't know. I would have thought it would be clear that it would have been worse under trump. But with his softening stance on vaccines (like in the video), I wonder what would have happened if he relayed that message to his supporters - would they have listened or would they have turned on him? If it were the former, there may have been an improvement in the red states, which would have made a national difference. But that would with a huge caveat that he did a total 180 on his stance on everything to that point- and if his supporters would buy it. Since the vaccine was made on his watch, he could spin it as a huge win if he got the US public to get jabbed. biden's victory only gave more reasons for his supporters to refuse getting vaccinated.

I think another question might be whether the US would be better off had another dem nominee won.
 
As many issues that I have had with Barack Obama I would make the switch if given the option allowing Biden a more dignified burial. You’d have to be quite a Carny at this point to convince people that Joe is as sharp as a tack while he sounds like he has a mouthful of marbles. Good luck in your future endeavors.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
COVID... I don't know. I would have thought it would be clear that it would have been worse under trump.
I agree, but I'm not entirely convinced there would be much different really. The states imploding now did not buy into the whole defensive nature of fighting the pandemic. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if the more Democratic states had their own coronavirus issues in three months. Like gun violence, it seems like it will be what it well be. Quite fatalistic I know.

I think another question might be whether the US would be better off had another dem nominee won.
Doubt it. The two most pressing issues in the news could not have been handled much better. The Afghan army collapsed after we propped it up for 20 years. Nailing it on Biden (president for 200 odd days) is disingenuous (Bush 7 years, Obama 8, Trump 5, Biden 0.7). Who thought the army would collapse overnight? Their heart was not in it and we did not recognize it.

Biden reversed course on climate change. That is - in my opinion - the true issue of the day.
 
Watching Joe struggle, stutter, and stumble while reading someone else's thoughts off a machine makes Boris Yeltsin's corpse look more focused and engaged. As many problems that I have had with the guy I would switch Joe for Barack Obama in a second. At least Barry still has life remaining inside of him.

Joe Biden has no lead left in his pencil. Even Vince McMahon cannot prop him up at this point.
 
At least Jen Psaki is a competent bullshit artist. I might even use her to replace Joe too. She looks alert and dialed-in compared to Joe Biden's vacant comatose eyes.

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gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
At least Jen Psaki is a competent bullshit artist. I might even use her to replace Joe too. She looks alert and dialed-in compared to Joe Biden's vacant comatose eyes.

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What will Joe do now?
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
I can never keep it straight... Is Joe Biden a sleepy, senile, incompetent old fart in cognitive decline or a criminal mastermind that engineered a stolen election, has the Chinese Communist Party in his pocket and is so full of energy that he's, "doing too much", the story changes depending on whatever propaganda is spewing out of the Reich Wing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 🤔 🙄
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
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Also known as stay the course. Good call. Get the fuck out of there.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/...port-as-us-tries-to-evacuate-thousands-506937
Biden: “We will respond with precision at our time at a place that we choose and the moment of our choosing, Here’s what you need to know: These ISIS terrorists will not win.”
He's not going to be able to do much without troops on the ground. Drone strikes can only do so much, as shown by the fact that even with all military branches in Afghanistan, they couldn't get rid of the Taliban in 20 years.

-If he totally leaves, this is basically an empty threat to ISIS-K. Also brings up the international issue of waging war in a country you haven't declared war with, or have a military presence in.

-He could leave a military presence in the country, but that would leave the real possibility of forming an alliance with the Taliban, or at least a co-operation agreement with them. Can you imagine how that would look? Not to mention basically continuing the war which they desperately need to get out of.

I can't see any way he can win this. Totally screwed either way.
I don't envy joe, but that's the job he signed up for.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
I didn't know the troops were going to be withdrawn from Afghanistan until they announced it a few weeks ago.
Why is everyone surprised by what the evil Taliban aholes are doing??
The US government knew this would probably happen if they withdrew their troops.
All the people who are now in danger should have been airlifted out months ago before the troops started leaving.
I still don't know why the troops were withdrawn. I hate reading about war.

Horror at Kabul airport is political disaster for Biden
 
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gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I didn't know the troops were going to be withdrawn from Afghanistan until they announced it a few weeks ago.
Why is everyone surprised by what the evil Taliban aholes are doing??
The US government knew this would probably happen if they withdrew their troops.
All the people who are now in danger should have been airlifted out months ago before the troops started leaving.
I still don't know why the troops were withdrawn. I hate reading about war.
We should not be surprised and, yes, the people in danger should have been gone long ago. US troops should have been gone prior to Biden's arrival.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/...port-as-us-tries-to-evacuate-thousands-506937
Biden: “We will respond with precision at our time at a place that we choose and the moment of our choosing, Here’s what you need to know: These ISIS terrorists will not win.”
... and he sent in the drones

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/569821-us-conducts-airstrike-against-isis-k-planner
 
If Kamala Harris were a fast food place she would be In 'n' Out Burger. Willie Brown used to be a frequent customer.

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I'm sticking with "What? A Burger?". This Chameleon is worse than that Corpse. Last Season of The Walking Dead though. That's it. Bring back The Cheeto Bandito!

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