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Economists do 2 things, tell you what is going to happen an why it won't. It's a great scam as a job.
The American Dream is Now a Nightmare
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Economists do 2 things, tell you what is going to happen an why it won't. It's a great scam as a job.
So you know for certain that it was an impartial study? No right wing economist worth their salt would be in favor of dismantling 1/6 of the economy. You need to concern yourself with bringing dental care up to 21st century in that little country of yours before you start telling us how to run our health care system. Fucking Britiot
The measure of a good idea is how many people are looking to steal it. No one in the world looked at America's healthcare system and said to themselves "let's do that". Why? It was needlessly complicated, didn't cover everyone (particularly those who already had health problems) and was absurdly expensive for no tangible benefit. Sure people come from all over the world to study at America's medical schools, as they do to Britain and I'm sure they do to other countries with good schools. But medical schools are not the healthcare system and no one doubts US doctors are well trained, but it doesn't matter how well trained the guy is if you can't afford to see him. Britain established the NHS in the aftermath of World War 2 with an economy close to collapsing and food rationing still in effect and you guys are crying over the "strain" of Obamacare. Oh and Britain isn't the country with hillbillies that have fewer teeth than there are sane Tea Partiers.
many of them are paid to spread disinfo because if they got up on tv and told the truth, they would not have a job anymore
Another Bridiot. You fuckers can't even get ranked in the top 10 of health care yet you want to tell us how to run our system. Of couse it is not being widely imitated because it was a free market health care system. Why would a country that experiments in socialism attempt that? My health care not be matched anywhere in the world. There is not one illness that I could be afflicted with that would cause me to seek treatment anywhere else in the world. So take your British version and keep it and while you are at it try and get some American dental professionals into your country. Every time I have visited your country I see people with teeth that look like what Americans wear with a Halloween costume. It's fucking disturbing actually.
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ummmm... yea. They get a check to talk. They are on contract but not the guests. They are rehearsing for a job.
Mariahxxx
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sorry dude but the french medical system is far superior to ours. our FDA is a scam. doctors here are paid by big pharm to write scripts. Ever hear of Amgen? BIG pharmaceutical company. They spend over $100 MILLION a year taking doctors on trips to the Caribbean and other exotic locations.
I know you love it but insurance companies here are for profit which by definition means as little care for as much money. any claim over $10k is denied by default.
you are fucking delusional if you think your health care here is better than it is in Switzerland or France or Germany. Dee-lu-sion-al
and you say "why would anyone be in favor of dismantling 1/6 of our economy?" well how about because it was a enormous failure on it's way to being 1/5 of our economy? name one plan from the right that addressed our health care epidemic? ONE. you can't because there wasn't one. they wanna keep it as it is. lining the pockets of lobbyists and the big pham and insurance will keep throwing money into campaign coffers.
please. you are fucking blind or blond. not sure which
I know you love it but insurance companies here are for profit which by definition means as little care for as much money. any claim over $10k is denied by default.
you are fucking delusional if you think your health care here is better than it is in Switzerland or France or Germany. Dee-lu-sion-al
and you say "why would anyone be in favor of dismantling 1/6 of our economy?" well how about because it was a enormous failure on it's way to being 1/5 of our economy? name one plan from the right that addressed our health care epidemic? ONE. you can't because there wasn't one. they wanna keep it as it is. lining the pockets of lobbyists and the big pham and insurance will keep throwing money into campaign coffers.
please. you are fucking blind or blond. not sure which
bobjustbob
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Yea, I used edit. You may not have heard from these people... and I am blonde so what of it? They hate their shit. The Brits and Canadians aren't too fond of their systems either.
I wouldn't count on it. It is after all called Obamacare and not Hillarycare. She's probably sighing in relief right now.
And the american electorate are just that fuckin stupid. Just sayin'.
How many posts are you going to make that is nothing but recycled left wing drivel? The WHO is a farce. Your claims of massive corruption and cronyism within the medical industry are unfounded. As I have said before, if you ever had an original thought that wasn't implanted into that thick skull of yours by left wing bloggers it would kill you. The US Health care system may not be up to socialized medicine standards but for those of us who actually pay for it, Swiss and French medical care is second rate and I would never receive any health care there any better than I could get here. What you need to do is take your ass over there and live. Become a part of that wonderful system and take advantage of it. Especially the mental health aspect. Looks like you could use it.
As I told you the French healthcare system is getting privatized and the French public hospitals have no more financial means compared to private ones and the highly reputed doctors go working into private ones. My uncle lives in Switzerland as well as two of my cousins, and their best hospitals are also private yet their public hospitals are having a good quality of care because in Switzerland the Swiss don't let anybody enter or migrate in the country. You must have at least a high salary and capital over a million of € or $ if you want to live in, Switzerland is the country of the rich. Regarding Germany, their system is slightly better because it hasn't been riden like the French one during decades by welfare cases and unwilling to work lazy pieces of shit . Your friend Obama's campaign was financed by some of the biggest finances and pharmaceutic names, and you wonder everything healthcare is expensive. Stop wearing blinders la milano, it doesn't suit you
Also one thing I don't get with you La Milano, you are rich and yet you seem to dislike/despise the class of people you are belonging to. You must certainly have rich pornstars, rappers, finance and real estate friends. What do you do about them? You consider them as other non rich people? Or is this because they have the same political views or the way having fun that they are in you are inner circle? Please tell me I am curious to hear your answer. Regarding education, you have put your son in a private school because if he was in a public, he would have to confront the low educated and scummy ghetto crowd and all the wannabe gang bangers. You yourself admitted how it would be dangerous for him to study in a public school. Also the fact that the young pupils have no idea of what they want to do, reflects a lot from their parents education. A clueless and undetermined pupil is the result from a shitty education.
Mariahxxx
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Well first up georges, I'm not rich. And if I were I wouldn't feel any differently. As I said, I am willing to pay more taxes to help people get medicine who can't afford it. I have no problem with people with money. I just don't understand being ok with paying for wars but not ok with paying for sick people's care.
And you're use of the word ghetto is always good for a chuckle. If he went to a public school he wouldn't be in a ghetto lol and it wouldn't be dangerous. he would just be in a school with 45 kids in the class instead of 8. his school has a great basketball program and his coach was a college scout for years before and is also the Olympic coach for a country so he gets not only great coaching but also great exposure to college recruiting which has paid off.
and BC I find it funny that you say I'm the one with implanted opinions. It's unfounded that doctors are paid to write scripts???????? That they are wined and dined by pharmaceutical companies??????? I happen to have a friend who works for Amgen, hence the reference. He's a sales rep for them. They take doctors on trips. VERY expensive trips. They provide doctor's offices with free equipment. You don't believe that goes on???? Go into a vet's office and see the stacks of science diet food. they all push science diet for some reason. and Iams and Eukanuba. that stuff is shit and every vet knows it but why do they push it on their clients to feed their pets? it would be like your cardiologist having a McDonald's in their waiting room.
You're an attorney, you surely don't deny the ENORMOUS law suits that have been won by people against medical and pharmaceutical companies. Read some of the books or watch some of the documentaries that show courtroom testimony where they admit that it's a default "No" on claims over a certain dollar amount. I'm sure you're familiar with Erin Brokovich? Yes it was a Hollywood movie, but that was a true story. The chemical companies were pouring toxic waste into the water and the people were all sick and dying of cancer because of it. The insurance companies weren't paying until several appeals had been filed. In court they admitted to it. That was Blue Cross and it's 100% FOUNDED. You're an attorney, read on it.
Yes if you have money in this country you can get great care. But counselor how many people in this country have money? 5%? 10%? what about the rest? Fuckem right? typical republican point of view. the poor keep getting poorer. medical debt keeps them without viable credit to buy a house or get a loan so they stay poor. and get poorer. that suits the greedy fucks like yourself perfectly doesn't it?
And you're use of the word ghetto is always good for a chuckle. If he went to a public school he wouldn't be in a ghetto lol and it wouldn't be dangerous. he would just be in a school with 45 kids in the class instead of 8. his school has a great basketball program and his coach was a college scout for years before and is also the Olympic coach for a country so he gets not only great coaching but also great exposure to college recruiting which has paid off.
and BC I find it funny that you say I'm the one with implanted opinions. It's unfounded that doctors are paid to write scripts???????? That they are wined and dined by pharmaceutical companies??????? I happen to have a friend who works for Amgen, hence the reference. He's a sales rep for them. They take doctors on trips. VERY expensive trips. They provide doctor's offices with free equipment. You don't believe that goes on???? Go into a vet's office and see the stacks of science diet food. they all push science diet for some reason. and Iams and Eukanuba. that stuff is shit and every vet knows it but why do they push it on their clients to feed their pets? it would be like your cardiologist having a McDonald's in their waiting room.
You're an attorney, you surely don't deny the ENORMOUS law suits that have been won by people against medical and pharmaceutical companies. Read some of the books or watch some of the documentaries that show courtroom testimony where they admit that it's a default "No" on claims over a certain dollar amount. I'm sure you're familiar with Erin Brokovich? Yes it was a Hollywood movie, but that was a true story. The chemical companies were pouring toxic waste into the water and the people were all sick and dying of cancer because of it. The insurance companies weren't paying until several appeals had been filed. In court they admitted to it. That was Blue Cross and it's 100% FOUNDED. You're an attorney, read on it.
Yes if you have money in this country you can get great care. But counselor how many people in this country have money? 5%? 10%? what about the rest? Fuckem right? typical republican point of view. the poor keep getting poorer. medical debt keeps them without viable credit to buy a house or get a loan so they stay poor. and get poorer. that suits the greedy fucks like yourself perfectly doesn't it?
Oh go to hell Milano. I lived in free market health care system. But not any longer. You're right, I don't give a fuck if the poor have health care if it makes mine more expensive. Employers shouldn't be required to furnish health insurance no more than they should be required to furnish car, renters or home owners insurance. Yes Georges she claims to make a 6 figure income and is a champion of the poor yet brags about yacht owners in the Bahamas with fuck you money. Flying off first class to any destination in the world on a whim and dining at Michelin rated restaurants. On the other hand she talks about me being a greedy wealthy bastard but I drive a small hybrid vehicle to work every day and fly coach. Georges stop arguing with her about her about your first hand knowledge of your health care. It's either believe Mariah who knows it all about everything or believe your own lying eyes.
Mariahxxx
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hahaha there ya go. Mr. Charitable reveals himself finally. Typical GOP greedy fucking horseshit. And you wonder why your spoon fed candidate got his teeth kicked in last go around. Funny. I "bragged" about yacht owners? I merely said there were some crazy impressive boats with people on them who were not what you would expect. If you had been there you would have said the same. And what's the difference flying first class and flying coach if I can pay for it? I give to charity and do my part.
And as far as georges goes, in one post he says the french health care system is no longer any good and its going to this when in another post he says how it's becoming privatized these days. Now I don't have the education that you do BC, but that kinda sounds lie georges is saying that its getting worse now that it's becoming privatized.
And employers shouldnt be required to pay a living wage either right? or provide a safe workplace? or vacation time? or sick leave? how do you live with yourself? oh yeah, you're a fucking lawyer.
And as far as georges goes, in one post he says the french health care system is no longer any good and its going to this when in another post he says how it's becoming privatized these days. Now I don't have the education that you do BC, but that kinda sounds lie georges is saying that its getting worse now that it's becoming privatized.
And employers shouldnt be required to pay a living wage either right? or provide a safe workplace? or vacation time? or sick leave? how do you live with yourself? oh yeah, you're a fucking lawyer.
Georges said that France was moving toward privitization BECAUSE the socialized system was failing. And get ready for more bad news regarding the ACA. 10 democrat senators up for re-election in 2014 now have decided to support Ted Cruz' demand to delay it by 1 year. This is also being reported by CNN. That is on top of the individual mandate being bumped back by 6 weeks. The wheels are coming off this signature legislation.
Mariahxxx
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no georges did NOT say that. and show me where it's becoming privatized? it ALWAYS had private doctors and hospitals just as the UK has. If you have money you can pay for private care. ALWAYS has been that way. the public option is still in place and france doesn't have a single payer system like the UK has.
you wish. the wheels are coming off of your 1950s wannabe party. Frank Burns for president! PLEASE!
you wish. the wheels are coming off of your 1950s wannabe party. Frank Burns for president! PLEASE!
Big talk since you're only just in the top 40. We might not be in the top 10, but we're still twenty places ahead of the US and pay less than half of what you do per capita. Which is even sadder when you don't even cover everyone as it shows just how bloated your system must be. Someone somewhere is getting rich and if you have the misfortune to get sick, that won't be you. Which is why I wouldn't seek treatment in the US since I can get treated here for free and because I'm a fiscal conservative when it comes to my budget suits me fine.
By the way, the Brits have bad teeth stereotype was barely funny the first time you brought it up, now I just kind of feel sorry that that's your only "argument" against our system.
Mariahxxx
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His point is that you guys pay 50% of your income in taxes and he doesnt want that. he doesnt want to pay anything for anyone else, even if it means a healthier more productive society. the republicans dont want to do shit for anyone. to hell with a bankrupt society and a broken system. as long as they themselves are ok then fuck everyone else.
this is why our country is in the shape its in.
this is why our country is in the shape its in.
I always love how the brits get their panties in a wad when you mention their teeth! lol It is far from a stereotype. Been there at least 10 times. You have some of the scariest looking people on the planet there. It is like mutants from a nuclear experiment gone bad.
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