Terrorist lovefest continues.

[habo9]

Penn and Teller are the ones full of...:tongue:

Two burnt out old guys who barely have any brain cells left.

They are two sold out puppets.

Two burnt out old guys that tell you straight that the bible is a load of shite & pick out all the faults to a T about the so-called good book

Penn & Teller are the dogs bollocks :bowdown:

Ps did you look any of that up Will?

 

[Legzman]

The Scottish government showed some humanity towards a gravely ill, dying man and spared him a hard and lonely death in prison.
But why am I not surprised, that it's some Americans once again who are shooting their mouths off demanding shame and death, because an old man wasn't left for dead?
Well, it pains me to say, but this kind of behaviour won't make it harder for terrorists to reason their deeds, because who refuses to show humanity won't receive any.

How do you know he was innocent? If he was then thats a whole different argument. But if he was in fact guilty, then fuck him. Let his ass rot!

Whether he is responsible for the crimes he was found to be guilty of or not, he got LIFE IN PRISON, so he should be spending his LIFE IN PRISON. The sentence of "life in prison" is just another way of saying "you're going to be in prison until the day that you day", so when someone gets sentenced to life in prison, but gets released due to an illness, then the court is failing to live up to it's decision. It's fucking ridiculous that an illness, even cancer, can get someone out of their punishment - especially when their punishment is to die in prison. What a failure for the justice system, no matter what country this happened in.

Exactly :thumbsup:

 

[mrtrebus]

The Scottish government showed some humanity towards a gravely ill, dying man and spared him a hard and lonely death in prison.
But why am I not surprised, that it's some Americans once again who are shooting their mouths off demanding shame and death, because an old man wasn't left for dead?
Well, it pains me to say, but this kind of behaviour won't make it harder for terrorists to reason their deeds, because who refuses to show humanity won't receive any.

I don't believe in the death penalty but the Scotch Govt have made a big mistake. You make it sound as if this guy did nothing wrong? & that we should feel sorry for him?
Maybe he is innocent, but that's a different argument. He was convicted & just because he's got terminal cancer doesn't mean he should get out of jail free!
The reasons for his release are not compassionate, they are purely political. Sadly its backfired.

 

[Will E Worm]

Two burnt out old guys that tell you straight that the bible is a load of shite & pick out all the faults to a T about the so-called good book

Penn & Teller are the dogs bollocks :bowdown:

Ps did you look any of that up Will?

No, they want the Bible to not be true so they can live like Brute Beasts.
2 Peter 2:12 (KJV)

I will sooner or later.

I wasn't on at all last night.

 

[girk1]

I don't believe in the death penalty but the Scotch Govt have made a big mistake. You make it sound as if this guy did nothing wrong? & that we should feel sorry for him?
Maybe he is innocent, but that's a different argument. He was convicted & just because he's got terminal cancer doesn't mean he should get out of jail free!
The reasons for his release are not compassionate, they are purely political. Sadly its backfired.

Well I have heard that dozens(at least 20/30 something) of convicts have been released becasue of this law in the Scottish system. Which in theory I really have no problem with as incapacitated/aging convicts are a useless drain on society. Let him die on Libya's dollar.

However I did think the guy was 'bedridden' /incapacitated & not able to get around (although he struggles to walk) on his own.

Terrorists are consistently willing to blow themselves into oblivion for their 'cause' so life in a Western prison or death penalty can/will not deter them:dunno: But it may give moderate Muslims(who we need to ally ourselves with) a better understanding /appreciation of Western idealogy.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I hope that they have been giving him nothing to eat but Haggis and forcing him to watch Scottish football for the last 20 years. Bastard. :thefinger:thefinger

He was only in prison for eight years. It would have been great if they had put him on an old plane by himself and when he realized that it wasn't going anywhere, blow it up. You know, like Joe Pesci's character, Tommy DeVito, in Goodfellas when he realized the house was empty and the old gangster shot him in the head.

 

[mrtrebus]

No, they want the Bible to not be true so they can live like Brute Beasts.
2 Peter 2:12 (KJV)

I will sooner or later.

I wasn't on at all last night.

Cool! I wanna be a Brute Beast!

 

[Facetious]

FBI Boss, Robert Mueller is the only one speaking with the appropriate language....

OMFG ! :shocked: Did he (Mueller) actually have the temerity to suggest that "abdul bassethound mega rat he - whoever" (the supposedly terminally ill Libyan terrorist accomplice / co conspirator) could be one among others in a terrorist plot ? :updown:

You go Robert Mueller !!:hatsoff:

Reporting from Washington - FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III has strongly condemned Scotland's justice minister for freeing the only man convicted in the Lockerbie bombing, saying in a letter released Saturday that his action had made a "mockery" of justice and encouraged terrorists everywhere.

Mueller's letter came on the heels of criticism by President Obama and other administration officials over the decision Thursday to release former Libyan intelligence agent Abdel Basset Ali Megrahi, who was convicted in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, killing 270 people, most of them Americans.

But Mueller's letter, written Friday to Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, was unusual for its scorching criticism, particularly from a top U.S. law enforcement official with a reputation for diplomacy and public restraint.
EDIT: Public restraint, my ass ! Restraint is perceived as weakness in the muslim culture.

"Over the years I have been a prosecutor, and recently as the director of the FBI, I have made it a practice not to comment on the actions of other prosecutors, since only the prosecutor handling the case has all the facts and the law before him in reaching the appropriate decision," Mueller writes in his letter to MacAskill. "Your decision to release Megrahi causes me to abandon that practice in this case.

"I do so because I am familiar with the facts, and the law, having been the assistant attorney general in charge of the investigation and indictment of Megrahi in 1991. And I do so because I am outraged at your decision, blithely defended on the grounds of 'compassion.' " [...]

"Your action in releasing Megrahi is as inexplicable as it is detrimental to the cause of justice. Indeed your action makes a mockery of the rule of law," Mueller wrote. "Your action gives comfort to terrorists around the world."

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[Shindekudasai]

How do you know he was innocent? If he was then thats a whole different argument. But if he was in fact guilty, then fuck him. Let his ass rot!

I don't know whether he's innocent or not. Where did I say that I think he's innocent?
I just said that I have enough compassion in me to understand why a dying, terminally ill man doesn't have to die in a jail cell.
And I am glad, that by my country's laws you can't sentence a man to death (either by death penalty or by death in prison). How does it help me, the government, my fellow citizens or the victims of the crime, when a man dies by the rule of law? Sorry, but, I always thought we are entering different times.

I don't believe in the death penalty but the Scotch Govt have made a big mistake. You make it sound as if this guy did nothing wrong? & that we should feel sorry for him?
Maybe he is innocent, but that's a different argument. He was convicted & just because he's got terminal cancer doesn't mean he should get out of jail free!
The reasons for his release are not compassionate, they are purely political. Sadly its backfired.

Again, where did I say he did nothing wrong? I don't know that.

Ok, why was it purely political? Is there some connection between Scotland and Libya I don't see? And if there is, why isn't America bombing the shit out of Scotland? I thought this guy was a terrorist? If so, the Scotish government just collaborated with terrorists! Oh my god!! Don't you see the connection?!?!

None of you would want to die of cancer in a foreign prison, no matter what you did. Jesus Christ, quit being so damn bloodthirsty. He is dying anyway. I don't see any loss of justice in letting him die with his family by his side.

 

[CunningStunts]

Just seeing the "heros welcome" he got in Libya made me literally sick.

 

[om3ga]

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What a great job Britain. :thefinger

This makes me want to vomit. :throwup:

Have we forgotten how America used to fund Irish terrorists who bombed and murdered British soldiers & civilians for decades, until the recent peace process?

To quote from the BBC in 2001:

It took the attacks on 11 September to bring the full horror of terror attacks home to many Americans.

For those who want details:
Rich friends in New York

OK, I'm outta here...thanks for pi$$ing me off, btw.

 

[Will E Worm]

Have we forgotten how America used to fund Irish terrorists who bombed and murdered British soldiers & civilians for decades, until the recent peace process?

Are you talking about the IRA?

The IRA waged a guerrilla campaign against British rule in Ireland in the Irish War of Independence from 1919–1921.

What's wrong with them wanting to free themselves from the British tyranny?

Consumed In Freedom's Flame : A Novel of Ireland's Struggle for Freedom 1916-1921

 

[titsrock]

^
It might be a little more complex than that...

 

[Facetious]

You mean Catholics over in the UK read the Bible? Over here...they do not. Over here, the Priest tells the laity what they need to know and think, basically...

Sounds like you went over the edge back when huh ?

Moderation Moderation Moderation I always say.

 

[bodie54]

To quote from the BBC in 2001:

It took the attacks on 11 September to bring the full horror of terror attacks home to many Americans.

That's absolutely true.

I don't see any loss of justice in letting him die with his family by his side.

I do.
Those he murdered weren't allowed that luxury.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Have we forgotten how America used to fund Irish terrorists who bombed and murdered British soldiers & civilians for decades, until the recent peace process?

To quote from the BBC in 2001:



For those who want details:
Rich friends in New York

OK, I'm outta here...thanks for pi$$ing me off, btw.

Yes a large amount of funding for the IRA came from the catholic Irish americans living in the US.

Are you talking about the IRA?

The IRA waged a guerrilla campaign against British rule in Ireland in the Irish War of Independence from 1919–1921.

What's wrong with them wanting to free themselves from the British tyranny?

Consumed In Freedom's Flame : A Novel of Ireland's Struggle for Freedom 1916-1921

I'm sure he is talking about much more recent history then that.In 1921 the catholic majority became free of british rule in the south of Ireland.But the 6 predominately protestant northern counties known as Ulster stayed within the UK.Being I am the desendent of protestant Irish from the north I have some interest in the subject.I understand I think both points of views from both sides and both have legitimate POV'S IMO.The catholics want the rest of their country back,the protestants do not want to be subject to living in a country where religion is so much a part of society with laws tailored to suit the majority religious view.Violence occurred on both sides but the IRA was more active in it's use.Bombings in UK,killing Mountbaten,etc.

IMO it just really shows how many times things are not so black and white or right and wrong.One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

om3ga has a point though,most americans didn't seem to mind that some americans were heavily funding a terrorist group,the IRA even trained at middle east terrorist training camps.Now the two groups are at the bargaining table negotiating.Who said terrorism doesn't work.

 

[sproing99]

Are you talking about the IRA?

The IRA waged a guerrilla campaign against British rule in Ireland in the Irish War of Independence from 1919–1921.

What's wrong with them wanting to free themselves from the British tyranny?

Consumed In Freedom's Flame : A Novel of Ireland's Struggle for Freedom 1916-1921

Sorry, the Provisional IRA who were active (and in some guises are still active) during the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland during which more people died through terrorist violence than on September 11th were largely funded by donations from US citizens (though ironically enough, a proportion of the weapons were sourced through Libya).

 

[sproing99]

IMO it just really shows how many times things are not so black and white or right and wrong.One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

I think sometimes the choice of target forfeits the choice of freedom fighter as a title. Targeting a school or shopping centre for instance seems to be aimed at killing civilians rather than directly attacking the forces of oppression (army bases, police stations and so forth).

IMO the choices of targets for both Republican and Unionist terrorists shows that they are just that, terrorists, and not freedom fighters.

 

[georges]

Kadafi should have been poisonned with arsenic or cyanide.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Kadafi should have been poisonned with arsenic or cyanide.

I got 4 words for ya....

Black ops head shot.