Taxing The Rich Will Kill Jobs... BULLSHIT

1) The Bush tax cuts have been in place for almost ten years now and the rich haven't created one fuckin job with their extra money.

I don't think that's entirely accurate.
What's the income ceiling on that tax cut you want repealed or reversed, whatever?
 
why should rich people be punished for the hard work and sacrifice which made them rich? stop being jealous crybabies.
 
why should rich people be punished for the hard work and sacrifice which made them rich? stop being jealous crybabies.
Its got nothing to do with being jealous & tax isn't a punishment.

Plus it's overly simplistic to surmise that rich people are rich because of "hard work and sacrifice". Its not always the case but adhering to that belief makes it easy to be dismissive of those at the lower end of the economic scale, because your logic implies that they are poor because they haven't worked hard or made sufficient sacrifices. . .
 

I know, we're neighbors.

Now again, by what metrics are you judging failure at 2.5 years of Obama inheriting the worst economy since depression?
 
You wish...I can't even say nice Tri on this one....

Stephen F. Hayes of the "Weakly Slandered" and official biographer of Richard Cheney is saying Obama's economy is a failure.:eek::rofl2:

You couldn't have done worse if you were citing an article written by Rush or Hannity.:facepalm:

Other ruminations by Mr. Hayes;

"The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America"

"The Brain: Paul Wolfowitz and the Making of the Bush Doctrine"


:cool::facepalm:
He's a fucking GOPer cheerleader...but aside from that, let's deal with what his claims are...

He derides Obama as a failure based on among other things growth. Well, since you worship at the alter of Reagan and he apparently was so successful..let's compare the numbers.

Reagan GDP
1981 3126.8
1982 3253.2
1983 3534.6

Obama GDP
2009 14258.2
2010 14660.4
2011 15079.6

:eek::thefinger:1orglaugh

(And we know what the u/e and debt numbers were in comparison...Or do I need to bring that up again...:o)
 
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NPR is a liberal source. If you don't even believe them then my God you truly live in lala land. We're headed for a double dip recession, the domestic economy is crap and you think all is well.

Even the real Begala knows the economy is in the dumps.:1orglaugh

As I've said before and I'll say it again:

Talking to you is like talking pig Latin to a donkey.
 
NPR is a liberal source. If you don't even believe them then my God you truly live in lala land. We're headed for a double dip recession, the domestic economy is crap and you think all is well.
Weekly Standard: It's Obama's Economy

by Stephen F. Hayes

I mean, it's like right there when you open the link...:confused:Really dude, this is even low by your standards. Did you really think you could cover linking to a Weakly Slandered article by a GOPer hack just because it was posted on NPR???:confused: :dunno: Now that was truly 'dents.
Talking to you is like talking pig Latin to a donkey.

I told you the donkey understands pig latin perfectly well, just not your bullshit.:2 cents:

Besides, I asked you by what metrics YOU are judging this...not some Weakly Slandered hack's opinion.

But of course that rolled right off your back. Understandably what happens when you talk English to someone who only understands bullshit.:2 cents:
 

Juliuscaesar

Closed Account
Define rich.If you mean actors, politicians, and lawyers, I agree with you..We need a 85% tax on them.

However, if you mean people involved in certain economic activities that produce something, mine the earth, or help move those goods from point A to point B etc., then no.
 
NPR is a liberal source. If you don't even believe them then my God you truly live in lala land. We're headed for a double dip recession, the domestic economy is crap and you think all is well.

Even the real Begala knows the economy is in the dumps.:1orglaugh

As I've said before and I'll say it again:

Talking to you is like talking pig Latin to a donkey.

Yeah because of that damn debt deal that got passed. Just today on Chris Wallace's show Paul Ryan signaled his willingness to raise revenues, shifting positions following the downgrade.

 

SlamJack

Banned

What annoys me is that people aren't holding the politicians accountable.

Hussein keeps blaming W. W is gone and could be off drinking beer and shooting varmint for all I care. I never voted for him.

Now, I voted for Hussein and am frankly done with him. He doesn't show the leadership I expect and I keep hearing people make excuses for him and blaming W.

Well, W is gone, it is Hussein's problem now. What should we expect when we vote in a guy with zero experience. It is our fault.

However, there is plenty of accountability to go around. He is working with his fellow monkeys (regardless of party) in the House, Senate, and the Supreme Court for that matter.

I think it starts with taking responsibility and I'm not hearing anyone do that.


(This blocking feature in FreeOnes works like a champ. I just block the pinheads and I never have to see what they type.)
 
Yeah because of that damn debt deal that got passed. Just today on Chris Wallace's show Paul Ryan signaled his willingness to raise revenues, shifting positions following the downgrade.


Sorry....he didn't really say anything tangible. All he said was if we can cut spending then maybe we can talk about revenues. That is literally no change in the position they've held all along.

Again sorry, these clowns are masters at making a load of..cra...err nothing sound like a whole lot of something.

Sorta like..well watch this,

NPR is a liberal source. If you don't even believe them then my God you truly live in lala land. We're headed for a double dip recession, the domestic economy is crap and you think all is well.

^^:facepalm: NPR is a liberal source but the ....guy thought he could slip passed me the fact that it was just an article written by a conservative for a conservative fish wrap but posted at NPR.:1orglaugh....statement true about the source but the writer and origin of the article aren't. As misleading a fucking snafu.

Or this gem..
Even the real Begala knows the economy is in the dumps

Duh Sherlock!!:facepalm: Even Obama know the economy is in the dumps...the question is whether there is a recovery occurring?

If u/e was 10.1 last year and now it's 9.1..that would seem to suggest there is...
 
NPR is a liberal source. If you don't even believe them then my God you truly live in lala land. We're headed for a double dip recession, the domestic economy is crap and you think all is well.

Even the real Begala knows the economy is in the dumps.:1orglaugh

As I've said before and I'll say it again:

Talking to you is like talking pig Latin to a donkey.


Too bad we can't put a poll in this thread...

Are you better off since O'Bama took office or worse off?

Americans...
What do you have to report?
 
Too bad we can't put a poll in this thread...

Are you better off since O'Bama took office or worse off?

Americans...
What do you have to report?

Many people with an ounce of common sense knew the economy wouldn't simply turn around on a dime the way it was heading just because Obama was elected.

It didn't do it when Reagan inherited his situation and whether Obama's actions work or not...based on passed experience I didn't expect the economy to be booming 2.5 years after taking over what he did.

To your question, all I can say is I'm glad u/e is 9.1 at this point versus still over 10 like it was under Reagan at the same point. With all the other shit we have going on policy-wise and with the country I am glad as fuck u/e wasn't over 10 pct. for almost a year like it was under Reagan..

Am I better off...what does that matter as if I hit the lottery I would be better off but it wouldn't anything to do with Obama's economy.

I am just glad things aren't as bad as they were under Reagan for the first 2.5 years of Obama's term.:2 cents: Things could be worse and probably would have been but for Obama's actions IMO.
 

SlamJack

Banned
Too bad we can't put a poll in this thread...

Are you better off since O'Bama took office or worse off?


What do you have to report?

While I'm big on accountability, I can't say I'm personally worse off or better off since BHO took office. I'm disappointed in his leadership, but government in the US is (should be) a team sport. He is a captain of the team, and it falls on his shoulders heaviest, but no singularly.

We need to increase revenues, but it is a tough thing to do. It can, and I believe, already had a negative impact on business. For example, some companies are holding cash in reserve because they just aren't sure what is going to be expected of them.

I'm hoping that elected officials find it in themselves to work together and close some of the business tax problems by simplifying the tax laws.

I'm considered in the top 5% of income earners by a chart I saw on NTU and that bracket pays 60% of the revenue. It is a joke that I'm in that group...I am not rich. If I read right, the bottom 50% pays 3%. I have no problem with this, but lets not squeeze the middle. Increasing some corporate while finding a way to help private business increase GDP is going to be the key.

It can't be an easy thing to figure out.

I don't blame BHO for everything, but I do blame him for the lack of leadership. He needs to learn how to work with the opposition to get things done...even if he doesn't get the credit.:2 cents:
 

Daisy Lynn

Official Checked Star Member
Define rich.If you mean actors, politicians, and lawyers, I agree with you..We need a 85% tax on them.

However, if you mean people involved in certain economic activities that produce something, mine the earth, or help move those goods from point A to point B etc., then no.

:goodpost:

Wow.. my sentiments exactly. The tax code is BS in the US.. it's completely unfair for someone who makes $250k a year to be considered rich and taxed the same amount as someone who makes 250 Million a year. I also like the idea of a job being factored in to it.
 
Too bad we can't put a poll in this thread...

Are you better off since O'Bama took office or worse off?

Americans...
What do you have to report?

An even better question to go along with that might be, "Do you really think McCain or any of the other Republicans or even any other major politician would have made it better than it is now for anybody?"
 
Too bad we can't put a poll in this thread...

Are you better off since O'Bama took office or worse off?

Americans...
What do you have to report?




We've got over 45 million on foodstamps, unemployment at 9%, growth of .5 percent, a stimulus package that did diddly.
Golly jeepers I'd have to say we're worse off.:1orglaugh


Otrauma "Nonsense you can believe in.":D
 
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