Summoning Harley Spencer (bamf!)

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
How was I offensive?

I understand selling your body to be performing adult services for cash.
I know I've sold my body.
 

Hondarobot

Banned
For the record, you people who caused offense in this thread are now dead. You can't save yourselves by apologizing or making excuses.

Nobody here needs your participation or input, or will be interested in your departure.

Too bad for you.

:)
 

Harley Spencer

Official Checked Star Member
How was I offensive?

I understand selling your body to be performing adult services for cash.
I know I've sold my body.

It's not so much that you intentionally tried to offend me, as I don't think you meant anything by what you said. I just don't like it when people talk about girls in the adult business as if they're not normal girls, worthy of being loved, cared for, having a real life. Saying that a guy is likely to cheat on a girl who is in the adult business is a little offensive to me.

And of course the bit about me supposedly performing on cam every night. I don't do webcam. I never have, and most likely never will. I feel like a person should do their research about me (and if you've ever visited my website, that'd be research enough, as it's pretty clear on there that I don't) before making assumptions. But I can't expect everyone to do that, can I?

You are not an offensive person, but the implications of what you noted were slightly offensive to me. But I don't think you were trying to be.
 

GodsEmbryo

Closed Account
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Oh shit, the bitch is back!

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Welcome back Harley!!!
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Hondarobot

Banned
It's not so much that you intentionally tried to offend me, as I don't think you meant anything by what you said. I just don't like it when people talk about girls in the adult business as if they're not normal girls, worthy of being loved, cared for, having a real life. Saying that a guy is likely to cheat on a girl who is in the adult business is a little offensive to me.

And of course the bit about me supposedly performing on cam every night. I don't do webcam. I never have, and most likely never will. I feel like a person should do their research about me (and if you've ever visited my website, that'd be research enough, as it's pretty clear on there that I don't) before making assumptions. But I can't expect everyone to do that, can I?

You are not an offensive person, but the implications of what you noted were slightly offensive to me. But I don't think you were trying to be.

Shhh. I was kicking the hell out of these jerks. ;)
 

Harley Spencer

Official Checked Star Member
Shhh. I was kicking the hell out of these jerks. ;)

VV was alright with me. Amidst all the negativity that was going on when this whole thing started, just about everything pissed me off since it was the heat of the moment. I've been lurking the board here and there ever since I stopped posting and have come to realize that those who think I am a cheating cunt will undoubtedly always feel that way about me, so whatever. No matter how much reason or sense I talk, there is no changing what someone thinks of me. So anyway, I've had time to watch and calm down a little.

If you look back through the pages, you'll see that VV never called me any names and was never outright offensive or arrogant to me. I know a lot of people think you're a troll and don't like you, and personally I don't see why as I haven't seen anything that I would consider trolling from you, and maybe Vodka is with everyone on that. So to you he may be a jerk, but to me he's fine. I try to stay out of other peoples' shenanigans as much as I can.

@Harley : you have PM , please read it . :)

I read it :) Will respond here in a moment.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I'd post all the same shit if this was my Facebook account. I'm probably one of only a handful of regular members who has put myself out there. A few guys have (or had, I doubt they kept it) my cell phone number. I play video games with a few peopleI've posted my place of work. You could show up any day and meet me. I've met a member who no longer posts here and plan on meeting a few others. People refer to me using my real name here. Trust me when I say what you see is the real me. Nothing about what I said was uncivil. Aggressive? Angry? Sure. Nothing I wouldn't say to m y friends or family. Act like a douche and I'll treat you like one. That's civility.

Possibly what you said does represent the "real" you - and that's most unfortunate. That you may act that way with your family or friends (which Harley is neither) just suggests an unhealthy situation with your family and friends... it doesn't make it "civil". Just trust me on this one, if you think that what you said and how you said it passes for civility, then I can only suggest that you learn the correct definition of civility. So again, we disagree. But I still haven't felt the need to become melodramatic or call you names. That's not to say that I haven't called anyone a vulgar name on here before. But Philbert is gone and I don't pay that much attention to Sam Fisher any more, so the people who used to be the focus of my wrath aren't really in my gun sights any longer. But when I did that, yes, I certainly was acting in an uncivil manner. Pretty basic stuff really...
 

alexpnz

Lord Dipstick
For the record, you people who caused offense in this thread are now dead. You can't save yourselves by apologizing or making excuses.

Nobody here needs your participation or input, or will be interested in your departure.

Too bad for you.

:)

Shhh. I was kicking the hell out of these jerks. ;)

:facepalm:
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Awww, I love you too.
If you love me, go for a 21 mile hike, then post me the left sock from the hike, that I might wear it as I masturbate to your likeness.

If you really love me, insert a Vodka bottle into me, then hit it with a hammer.

No, I don't know what's wrong with me either. But I do like it :D
It's not so much that you intentionally tried to offend me, as I don't think you meant anything by what you said. I just don't like it when people talk about girls in the adult business as if they're not normal girls, worthy of being loved, cared for, having a real life. Saying that a guy is likely to cheat on a girl who is in the adult business is a little offensive to me.

And of course the bit about me supposedly performing on cam every night. I don't do webcam. I never have, and most likely never will. I feel like a person should do their research about me (and if you've ever visited my website, that'd be research enough, as it's pretty clear on there that I don't) before making assumptions. But I can't expect everyone to do that, can I?

You are not an offensive person, but the implications of what you noted were slightly offensive to me. But I don't think you were trying to be.
1: I didn't try to offend you and I apologise for offending you, it was unintentional.
2: I never stated that normal girls were worthy of being loved, cared for and having a life :D .
3: My judgement that guys are likely to cheat on women in the adult business is based on the fact that whereas a woman who works in another industry shares her body only with her partner, whereas a woman working in the adult industry shares her body with her clients and performers, so the male may well feel that he should be allowed to share too. I say that a "normal" women shares her body only with her partner, but that's assuming that that partner is STDiva, who appears to have issues with cheating women doubtless forged by some silly girl ripping his heart out by cheating on him with his best mate (DING DING DIVA! ROUND ONE! LETS GET IT ON!) and he would appear to be projecting onto you.
4: Perhaps I should have done my research, but I didn't.
VV was alright with me. Amidst all the negativity that was going on when this whole thing started, just about everything pissed me off since it was the heat of the moment. I've been lurking the board here and there ever since I stopped posting and have come to realize that those who think I am a cheating cunt will undoubtedly always feel that way about me, so whatever. No matter how much reason or sense I talk, there is no changing what someone thinks of me. So anyway, I've had time to watch and calm down a little.

If you look back through the pages, you'll see that VV never called me any names and was never outright offensive or arrogant to me. I know a lot of people think you're a troll and don't like you, and personally I don't see why as I haven't seen anything that I would consider trolling from you, and maybe Vodka is with everyone on that. So to you he may be a jerk, but to me he's fine. I try to stay out of other peoples' shenanigans as much as I can.



I read it :) Will respond here in a moment.
If I may offer advice it is that you should not give a shit about what people on here think, say or do. To do so gives them a hold over you that they will doubtless abuse.
So if somebody is negative/abusive, simply place them on ignore.
I've no idea why you're continually stating that I've been ok, it makes me wonder who's been questioning how vicious I've been to you, but thank you for being honest.
A lot of people think I'm a troll, because, frankly, I AM. I just pick and choose where and when to troll.
I haven't targetted you primarily because I have no reason to; you're not one of the OCSMs with the queen bitch attitude that I detest.
Yes I think it's wrong that you have an affair, but I can hardly say that I've never been tempted. I've been limited to one woman for 6 years, the primal part of me is DYING for a change. If that neighbour's cat walks by with it's tail in the air just one more time it's gonna get the shock of it's life.
I also haven't targetted you because:
1: We need OCSMs on this board. Particularily good ones like Chica.
2: Targetting OCSMs is not a bright idea: their supporters will turn against you, white knights may appear and eventually moderator action may be taken against you.
3: At some point we may see some OCSMs band together in a defensive clique (we are, after all, seeing a withdrawal of moderator protection). In that instance an attack on an OCSM one dislikes could cause issues with one that one loves.
 
I honestly look at some of the shit people say on here and just think to myself the best thing for civilization is just to get everybody together in a room, pump it full of gas and start all over again from scratch.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
I honestly look at some of the shit people say on here and just think to myself the best thing for civilization is just to get everybody together in a room, pump it full of gas and start all over again from scratch.
:yesyes:
 

Harley Spencer

Official Checked Star Member
Possibly what you said does represent the "real" you - and that's most unfortunate. That you may act that way with your family or friends (which Harley is neither) just suggests an unhealthy situation with your family and friends... it doesn't make it "civil". Just trust me on this one, if you think that what you said and how you said it passes for civility, then I can only suggest that you learn the correct definition of civility. So again, we disagree. But I still haven't felt the need to become melodramatic or call you names. That's not to say that I haven't called anyone a vulgar name on here before. But Philbert is gone and I don't pay that much attention to Sam Fisher any more, so the people who used to be the focus of my wrath aren't really in my gun sights any longer. But when I did that, yes, I certainly was acting in an uncivil manner. Pretty basic stuff really...

Yep.

Here are a few definitions of civility:

1. Formal politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech.
2. Polite remarks used in formal conversation.
3. Claiming and caring for one's identity, needs and beliefs without degrading someone else's in the process.
4. The act of showing regard for others.
5. A polite action or expression.

If you love me, go for a 21 mile hike, then post me the left sock from the hike, that I might wear it as I masturbate to your likeness.

If you really love me, insert a Vodka bottle into me, then hit it with a hammer.

No, I don't know what's wrong with me either. But I do like it :D

1: I didn't try to offend you and I apologise for offending you, it was unintentional.
2: I never stated that normal girls were worthy of being loved, cared for and having a life :D .
3: My judgement that guys are likely to cheat on women in the adult business is based on the fact that whereas a woman who works in another industry shares her body only with her partner, whereas a woman working in the adult industry shares her body with her clients and performers, so the male may well feel that he should be allowed to share too. I say that a "normal" women shares her body only with her partner, but that's assuming that that partner is STDiva, who appears to have issues with cheating women doubtless forged by some silly girl ripping his heart out by cheating on him with his best mate (DING DING DIVA! ROUND ONE! LETS GET IT ON!) and he would appear to be projecting onto you.
4: Perhaps I should have done my research, but I didn't.

If I may offer advice it is that you should not give a shit about what people on here think, say or do. To do so gives them a hold over you that they will doubtless abuse.
So if somebody is negative/abusive, simply place them on ignore.
I've no idea why you're continually stating that I've been ok, it makes me wonder who's been questioning how vicious I've been to you, but thank you for being honest.
A lot of people think I'm a troll, because, frankly, I AM. I just pick and choose where and when to troll.
I haven't targetted you primarily because I have no reason to; you're not one of the OCSMs with the queen bitch attitude that I detest.
Yes I think it's wrong that you have an affair, but I can hardly say that I've never been tempted. I've been limited to one woman for 6 years, the primal part of me is DYING for a change. If that neighbour's cat walks by with it's tail in the air just one more time it's gonna get the shock of it's life.
I also haven't targetted you because:
1: We need OCSMs on this board. Particularily good ones like Chica.
2: Targetting OCSMs is not a bright idea: their supporters will turn against you, white knights may appear and eventually moderator action may be taken against you.
3: At some point we may see some OCSMs band together in a defensive clique (we are, after all, seeing a withdrawal of moderator protection). In that instance an attack on an OCSM one dislikes could cause issues with one that one loves.

You make a lot of good points.
In response to why I've been stating why you've been ok, it's because first you asked what you said was offensive. Then Honda made that comment about kicking the hell out of those jerks after I made that post, so I had to point out that you weren't a jerk.

I honestly look at some of the shit people say on here and just think to myself the best thing for civilization is just to get everybody together in a room, pump it full of gas and start all over again from scratch.

Good idea. But I will not be entering the room.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I honestly look at some of the shit people say on here and just think to myself the best thing for civilization is just to get everybody together in a room, pump it full of gas and start all over again from scratch.

Good idea. But I will not be entering the room.

You know about my fascination with ancient Rome and their "total war" tactics. So my idea would be for you to flash your boobs, quickly enter the room, quickly walk out through the secret back exit and then our cohort Gaius Cassius tosses a match down through the ceiling. Somewhat cruel... but most effective. :)
 

Hondarobot

Banned
I just don't see this Vodka guy as having any redeeming qualities. In his own post he points out that he is a troll, and mentions the "OCSM bitch attitude". Here's the basic problem with guys like him: he either doesn't understand or doesn't care that nearly nobody comes here to read him venting, and when he does that he gives the forum a creepy vibe that makes many of the girls not want to participate. I don't visit this forum to see nearly every thread polluted by this guys antics, and trolls tend to congregate with other trolls (unless knocked down) until they collectively drown a forum.

But out of respect to Harley, I'll concede that he's not as bad as some of the trolls here. More of Harleys civility is just what this place could use right now.
 
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