Straight from the NRA

[Ike Stain]

If ya don't believe me, follow the like to the NRA-ILA website.

Recently, an old rumor regarding Cerberus--the private equity firm that owns Freedom group, a holding company that in turn owns a number of firearms manufacturers, including Remington, Marlin, Bushmaster, and DPMS--was in some way tied to George Soros.

This rumor is completely false and baseless.

NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time. The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.

In reality, at no time has George Soros ever been a part of the ownership group of Freedom Group or Cerberus, and as a privately traded corporation, there is no possibility that he will be in the future.

This unsubstantiated rumor has caused a great deal of unnecessary concern for gun owners. NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/f...out-cerberus,-freedom.aspx?s=cerberus&st=&ps=

This took me literally less than a minute to find.

 

[sleep]

I think I have missed your point Ike, both of your links and your quote all say the same thing? Should not one of your links be a rebuttle... or "smoking gun" to counter the 1st link and the quote?"

I didn't see in any of the links where it said that this George Soros chap had anything to do with Cerberus or the Freedom Group, just denials from the NRA. Am I that buzzed that I have completely missed the boat?

I'm a gun owner and interested.

Cheers.

 

[Ike Stain]

Sorry. Context: http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...-Guns-Then-Knives/page2&p=6468819#post6468819

Just trying to clear up a myth going around among some firearm enthusiasts.

 

[Will E Worm]

Who cares what the NRA says? If you're a member you have already registed your firearms. Do not join the NRA. :nono:

 

[Ike Stain]

Who cares what the NRA says? If you're a member you have already registed your firearms. Do not join the NRA. :nono:

Yeah, but then you can't wear the snappy hat and piss off liberals.



Sometimes I just don't know where your priorities are, Worm.

 

[Will E Worm]

There are better hats and shirts.

 

[Ike Stain]

There are better hats and shirts.

Too overt IMO. (But then, if I'm known for anything, it's understatement.)

 

[georges]

There are better hats and shirts.

excellent :thumbsup:

 

[Mr. Daystar]

First of all, why didn't you just post this, in response to my post, in the thread it belongs in?

Second, if you want flawed statistics, the only place WORSE to go to, is the coalition against gun violence...they both make their money on fear mongering, if you want to know the truth, you use the FBI crime statistics.

Third, and last, I never said it was gospel truth, it was sent to me, in an e-mail from a friend, and I copied and pasted it. The fact is, many of those companies, DO IN FACT buy parts for their guns, from the same suppliers. When you buy a Bushmaster, it very well may have the same upper, or lower receiver as a DPMS.

 

[Facetious]

Third, and last, I never said it was gospel truth, it was sent to me, in an e-mail from a friend, and I copied and pasted it. The fact is, many of those companies, DO IN FACT buy parts for their guns, from the same suppliers. When you buy a Bushmaster, it very well may have the same upper, or lower receiver as a DPMS.

Aren't most of the common everyday production firearm parts for, say, 1911 pistols and M 16/A4's (among others I'm sure) manufactured in Brazil?...
And then you go to buy your good ol' All American brand of firearm and it's stamped "USA" (Not Made In the USA, just "USA").
"USA" stamped on the side of a receiver is good enough info to indicate that a given firearm is only fitted and assembled in the USA ...from foreign sourced components.

Cutting corners....Damn It!

 

[Facetious]

Who cares what the NRA says? If you're a member you have already registed your firearms. Do not join the NRA. :nono:

You know what they say about gun registration, don't you?

 

[Rey C.]

If you're a member you have already registed your firearms.

Huh?

 

[Mayhem]

Who cares what the NRA says? If you're a member you have already registed your firearms. Do not join the NRA. :nono:

Huh?

I think he is saying that by being an NRA member, you have "registered" yourself, thereby registering your guns. And you can't say he's wrong.

BTW, not that anyone cares, but I'm a Liberal and a staunch 2nd Amendment advocate. I too am not a member of the NRA because no one can say I'm a mouthpiece for them or influenced by them.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I think he is saying that by being an NRA member, you have "registered" yourself, thereby registering your guns. And you can't say he's wrong.

BTW, not that anyone cares, but I'm a Liberal and a staunch 2nd Amendment advocate. I too am not a member of the NRA because no one can say I'm a mouthpiece for them or influenced by them.

I'm sure being a member has put a red flag on my "file", but I don't think it breaks it down to individual firearms, unless you have an FFL. As far as being a mouth piece, I belong mostly because they keep me well updated on political issues...it could just as easily be the Gun Owners of America, or The Jews For the Preservation of Firearms...but one of the sporting clubs I belong to, requires NRA membership.

 

[Ike Stain]

I'm sure being a member has put a red flag on my "file", but I don't think it breaks it down to individual firearms, unless you have an FFL. As far as being a mouth piece, I belong mostly because they keep me well updated on political issues...it could just as easily be the Gun Owners of America, or The Jews For the Preservation of Firearms...but one of the sporting clubs I belong to, requires NRA membership.

The NRA is your friend. They are among most influential lobbies in American Politics. Go Sam's way, you end up with Ruby Ridge. Go the NRA way, you might actually end up getting the freedoms you want. It's funny how these guys are trying to make you feel like an a-hole for acting like a responsible gun owner.

 

[Will E Worm]

excellent :thumbsup:

:hatsoff:

You know what they say about gun registration, don't you?

It's bad.

Huh?

They already have your name and address. If they want to confiscate your firearms. That's why I would never join them and why many others will not.
We don't need to join gun clubs that need your address and other ID.


William Cooper - Handgun Control Inc., Confidential Letter - YouTube

 

[Rey C.]

I think he is saying that by being an NRA member, you have "registered" yourself, thereby registering your guns. And you can't say he's wrong.

Well, unless I use the ArmsCare or ArmsCare Plus insurance programs, the NRA has no record of whether I actually own any firearms. Just being a member suggests that I'm a gun enthusiast. But if anyone is actually worried about a time when the government is going to do a records search to see who owns what, it's MUCH more likely that any guns that I've bought "on the books", and gone through a background check, will give a better picture of what I own.

Experian maintains a HUGE database on most every American. They collect credit information. But they also collect employment and personal spending habit information. And they are largely unregulated. So even though the government might not spend time trying to figure out what you're buying with your Visa at Walmart, for a fee, Experian would be willing to tell the nice ATF inspector that you bought two boxes of .44 Magnum hollow points at Walmart and a Mossberg 590 at Jake's Guns & Stuff on the 23rd of March, 2008. You also bought some gas and a box of Little Debbie snack cakes at the 7-11 (they might throw that one in for free).

I've been in the NRA for over 25 years. I became a Life Member a long time ago, after renewing my membership several times. I agree with some of the positions held by the organization. And I don't agree with others. But especially with more Americans now owning guns (per capita) and seeing that more Americans have a favorable view of gun ownership now than at any time in recent memory, I don't stay up nights worrying about gun confiscation on a federal level. It's an issue that I pay attention to. But I'm not overly paranoid about it. What has happened though, is those with irrational fears have driven up the value of my collection quite nicely over the past 10 years or so. I just wish that I'd bought stock in the gun makers four or five years ago. Other than tech (Apple specifically), THAT would have been the place to put money.

 

[Kingfisher]

When the NRA basically said "fuck off California, you're a lost cause", I said fuck off to them as well. Especially when they did nothing during the importing of ammo ban bill that almost went into effect.

But the http://www.saf.org/ is far better.

 

[Ike Stain]

You know what they say about gun registration, don't you?

Another reason to respect the NRA— they're smarter than you. Their point about civil disobedience is dead on:

"I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law."
-Martin Luther King

 

[Ike Stain]

I've been in the NRA for over 25 years. I became a Life Member a long time ago, after renewing my membership several times. I agree with some of the positions held by the organization. And I don't agree with others. But especially with more Americans now owning guns (per capita) and seeing that more Americans have a favorable view of gun ownership now than at any time in recent memory, I don't stay up nights worrying about gun confiscation on a federal level. It's an issue that I pay attention to. But I'm not overly paranoid about it. What has happened though, is those with irrational fears have driven up the value of my collection quite nicely over the past 10 years or so. I just wish that I'd bought stock in the gun makers four or five years ago.

Rey C. for President. He lives in reality.