Shouldn't there be more respect for women in porn?

[Ghaleon]

Isn't porn supposed to be an art form? The female body is a thing of beauty, and awe-inspiring. I cringe whenever I see something like "GHETTO GAGGERS", "TEENAGE SLUTTERS", "ANAL WHORES", etc.

Many of the porn scenes I've watched have been demeaning for the girl. Mind you, I still enjoy hardcore porn but I think it should be more graceful. Some of you probably think I'm crazy.

 

[Hot Mega]

Many of the porn scenes I've watched have been demeaning for the girl.

Why do you keep watching those types of scenes then?

And "art" is merely the conscious production or arrangement of some thing for whom others appreciate or identify with. If others can appreciate or identify with it then no matter how distasteful or offensive to some...to someone it's "art".

I might add, the respect most porn stars are likely seeking comes in the form money and a towel after the scene.

 

[Ainttalkinlove]

Men need more respect in porn. Men are objectified. they are just like a peice of furniture for women to rub themselve all over. Men need to be respected in the porn industry.

 

[MrZiggles]

I think pornography is a form of entertainment. If it was art, it wouldn't be classified as pornography. I think there's room for both. But I tend to gravitate toward the more sexually assertive women, so respecting them is fine. If not necessary.

 

[Facial_King]

Isn't porn supposed to be an art form? The female body is a thing of beauty, and awe-inspiring. I cringe whenever I see something like "GHETTO GAGGERS", "TEENAGE SLUTTERS", "ANAL WHORES", etc.

Many of the porn scenes I've watched have been demeaning for the girl. Mind you, I still enjoy hardcore porn but I think it should be more graceful. Some of you probably think I'm crazy.

No, I don't think you're crazy.

There should be more respect for women in porn. A LOT more.

That said, some of the men in porn should probably get more respect as well (SOME of them)...

People in general, in all walks of life should be giving and receiving more respect. The local employees at the fast food joint probably should be getting a lot more respect than they do.

I too hate the titles of some of those sites, and often the content reflects the disrespectful language used. But not always. Sometimes what's on some of those sites is just explicit sex as what might occur between any two, happy consenting hetero adults. It depends on the context.

I just realized how much it annoys me when the dude grabs the girl's nose and holds it shut while she's blowing him. WHY??? Really lame. And face-slapping (and the context in which it usually done in porn) ??? Don't get me started on how that pisses me off....

But deepthroating itself? Is that disrespectful automatically? I don't think so, no.

 

[Rey C.]

It's debatable that porn is an "art form"... though some might argue that it is, could be or should be. But anyway, porn takes many different forms. In the 70's, you had porn movies that were actually pretty interesting and well written movies, that just happened to include full penetration sex. Now, any monkey with a video camera and $500 to hire a girl is a "porn producer". Just like with movies, some is art... some I would classify as lame attempts to make some money.

Without making this an overly long post, I believe in the concept of free will: unless someone is coercing you, you have the ability to make choices. I always thought Cassandra Cruz was pretty cute and sexy. Why she did that disturbing scene in Latina Abuse (that some say made her retire), I have no idea. But I can't blame the guys who made the movie or directed the scene. They offered her money to do certain things, she took the money and she did what was asked of her. She let her self be treated like an animal. I didn't see it as being up to them to look after her - that's what she, as an adult, has to do for herself. And unfortunately, she didn't appeal to me so much after I saw that scene.

All that to say, for the women who think that porn demeans or degrades women, don't do porn. For the men who believe that porn demeans or degrades women, dont' watch porn.

No offense to you, Ghaleon, as I think it's a fair question. I'm just very big on forcing people to take responsibility for their own actions. IMO, we've become too much a world that allows people to make themselves out to be victims... even of themselves.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Porn and art nudes are two different things. Art nudes are supposed to be tasteful depictions of the nude form. Porn isn't necessarily supposed to be degrading, but there are people who think that it's perfectly acceptable to do vile things to women because porn is supposed to be about things you can't do in real life (i.e. Max Hardcore). I personally find this behavior offensive and unnecessary.

 

[mrtrebus]

Porn and art nudes are two different things. Art nudes are supposed to be tasteful depictions of the nude form. Porn isn't necessarily supposed to be degrading, but there are people who think that it's perfectly acceptable to do vile things to women because porn is supposed to be about things you can't do in real life (i.e. Max Hardcore). I personally find this behavior offensive and unnecessary.

He speaks the truth! :hatsoff:

 

[anomaly]

Cut back on the facials and gang bangs and we're halfway there.:yinyang:

 

[gunslingingbird]

Oh, one more thing that I forgot to comment on. Bukkake was originally a form of humiliation for unfaithful women.

Theory has it that in ancient Japan, women who were found to be unfaithful were publicly humiliated in the town center by being tied up while every man in town ejaculated all over her to show his distaste.

From the 2005 World Congress of Sexology

Why, then, is it that it has become such an accepted and popular act in porn?

 

[Rey C.]

Cut back on the facials and gang bangs and we're halfway there.:yinyang:

Well, that's just it though... what's offensive to one is acceptable to another. Our own lovely & adventurous Chica seems to love for her husband to shoot on her face (at least for scenes... otherwise she says she prefers to swallow - damn, she's so perfect :1orglaugh). Another girl I've known online for several years describes herself as a submissive... and she likes to be spanked across her ass and between her legs, and even wears a pet collar while role playing. From what I know of the other girl, and from what little I know of Chica, both girls are in loving relationships.

While in college, I went out with a girl who got off on being slapped in the face during sex. At the tender age of 21, this, along with some of her other deep, dark fantasies sort of freaked me out. But being slapped and talked to like a whore really got her rocks off. To each his/her own, I figured.

Sites like Piss Mops and the like aren't my thing, so I just don't go there. To me, that's pretty extreme. But if I was Hispanic and a member of La Raza, even the mildest scenes at Dirty Latina Maids and Border Bangers might be offensive to me. I dunno. :dunno:

But I don't watch porn expecting to see the best societal traits there are. If I was religious, I'd be screaming that all of you (us) is going to hell for defiling the act of procreation in this way. So, it's just all in how you want to see it, I guess. But outside of kids and animals (and snuff type stuff), I don't hold any porn up to a moral yardstick. That's just me...

 

[capricorn]

I don't see what's the problem with respect towards women in porn.

I mean, they do it on their own free will. No one is forcing them to do porn or to do a certain kind of porn. They can stop any time they want. If they want to do scenes like ghetto gaggers or sometnihg like that, fine. Some even get off on such (mis)treatment. Take Sasha Grey, for example. She says that she wants to "push the limits of what women are supposed to like in sex" and that she finds most of the mainstream porn boring.

So, where's the problem?

 

[J. Friday]

I don't see what's the problem with respect towards women in porn.

I mean, they do it on their own free will. No one is forcing them to do porn or to do a certain kind of porn. They can stop any time they want. If they want to do scenes like ghetto gaggers or sometnihg like that, fine. Some even get off on such (mis)treatment. Take Sasha Grey, for example. She says that she wants to "push the limits of what women are supposed to like in sex" and that she finds most of the mainstream porn boring.

So, where's the problem?

So true. I've read porn interviews and some of them love the degrading stuff. Bobbi Starr said when she was a teenager she used to dream about gangbangs, rapes, and bondage. Jewel De'Nyle was treated like absolute garbage by Rocco Seffredi and she said it was everything she wanted and more. So while you say it is degrading, some of them actually like it. Plus, Sasha Grey has a point, all that romantic smut on HBO and Showtime like Taxicab Confessions and the other mild hardcore porn is pretty tedious. In a wicked way it is fascinating to see how far people can go when it comes to experiencing sex. Sometimes it seems limitless. These pornstars are boldly going where no woman has gone before when she does the most wickedest things imaginable.........or unimaginable since I never thought people could do some of the stuff I've seen.

 

[D-rock]

You have to remember that a huge chunk of porn today is created by semi-closet gay people that seem to be misogynist.

A lot of the rest are just people that are incredibly stupid, inept, incompetent, or some combination and couldn't make quality work if their lives depended on it, so they take the lowest common denominator.

The result is that most porn sucks now, is totally detached from what the majority of people out there find erotic, and tailors itself to a small section of stupid idiots out there.

Taking what a few of the stars say isn't a good measure to go by either. On camera or in interviews they lie, a lot. Otherwise there careers would go downhill even faster than they normally would for the short careers most pornstars have. 98%+ of the pornstars that are out there that do that would do something else if they could get paid around the same. (or even a bit lower in a lot of cases) Only a very small handful might be that level of sexual freak.

 

[Elwood70]

Shouldn't there be more respect for women in porn?

Shouldn't there be more respect for women in everything!?

 

[Rey C.]

I think of respect as something that is earned. I don't think of it as something automatically given because of gender, race, religion, etc.

I was in college when political correctness became all the rage. Different rules for different people. Too many rules, IMO. I'm not that smart. I can't keep up with which special rules apply to which special people. So I just apply the same rule set to everyone. Some women make movies with men who liked to get kicked in the balls and get their peckers twisted. Some men make movies with women who like to get their asses thrashed and their pussies abused. I just watch whatever floats my boat at the moment. And I don't judge the people who make one type of movie any more harshly than I do the ones who make the other type. If any of them don't like the movies they make, they should stop making movies. They don't have guns held to their heads. They do it for the money or because they actually enjoy what they do... maybe some combination of the two.

But I keep it simple: one set of rules for everybody. No special quarter given to anyone.

 

[Elwood70]

I think of respect as something that is earned. I don't think of it as something automatically given because of gender, race, religion, etc.
But I keep it simple: one set of rules for everybody. No special quarter given to anyone.

Bingo...

 

[titsrock]

There should be more respect in porn for women because women actually hold all the power in porn. If only they'd unionize.....

I think it seems like women are disrespected because there is ZERO CHEMISTRY today between men and women in scenes today. Half the women might as well be looking at their watches and the men, well, there's a reason we rarely ever see male faces in porn these days...

The women have never been *hotter* today, but the scene quality really is in the decline from the 80s and 90s....sad to say.

 

[himperv203]

I think the pornstars are aware that adult entertainment will always involve the use of "sexual" terms. I cant see how this business growing without using terms that are sexual. Its just entertainment and acting.

 

[mastagambit]

So true. I've read porn interviews and some of them love the degrading stuff. Bobbi Starr said when she was a teenager she used to dream about gangbangs, rapes, and bondage. Jewel De'Nyle was treated like absolute garbage by Rocco Seffredi and she said it was everything she wanted and more. So while you say it is degrading, some of them actually like it. Plus, Sasha Grey has a point, all that romantic smut on HBO and Showtime like Taxicab Confessions and the other mild hardcore porn is pretty tedious. In a wicked way it is fascinating to see how far people can go when it comes to experiencing sex. Sometimes it seems limitless. These pornstars are boldly going where no woman has gone before when she does the most wickedest things imaginable.........or unimaginable since I never thought people could do some of the stuff I've seen.

Nuff said, the pornstars like to be degraded and treated like garbage.
When you go to a pornsite and browse the vids/pic gallery the title for the female pornstar is always slut/bitch/whore.
Ask yourself why they have to classify the pornstar in such manner?