You gotta love people who preach right wing bullshit on a PORN forum. The fact remains that if you don't like a certain style of porn, you can always just avoid it and stop trying to ruin it for those that do. This thread has accomplished nothing. insulting a couple of OCSMs doesn't make you cool or rebellious. It just makes you come across like even more of an ass.
Should white performers who appear in racist, anti-White productions be boycotted?
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Jaana and BioDefenseGrad Clean it up. Stop acting like children. Agree to disagree and move on. Also, Bio if you continually harass Jaana or vice versa, there will be consequences. Know that this thread is on the watch anyway.
Keep it clean. Keep it a debate and stay away from the ad hominem personal attacks.
Keep it clean. Keep it a debate and stay away from the ad hominem personal attacks.
BioDefenseGrad
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I never tried to pass it on as a mistake.
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Gotcha. Just as long as they don't abuse their status as OCSM to flame people.
Didn't even last one post.
BioDefenseGrad
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Not a right winger. What I'm asking is for people to actually stand by their ideals. I want them to denounce anti-White bigotry like they do when it's White people engaging in bigoted behavior against non-Whites.
I've gotten attacked by people who love that stuff, including some White who seem to enjoy White people being racially degraded.
Why is that okay when we know it's not okay to racially abuse non-White people? When a similar site came out that denigrated African-Americans and Jews, it was taken down from the internet by the Service provider within a short period of time. That was with the help of several anti-racist groups.
But where are they when it's done to Whites? No where at all. And some liberals have the gall to defend it saying it's not that bad?
Hypocrisy, that's what it is.
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Ah here you go.
You don't even know what hypocrisy is.
You're the hypocrite. You openly wage war against (a very narrow selection of) bigotry then you go and slam someone over their disability... the act of a bigot.
And you call me a hypocrite for pointing that out. Or maybe you just called me that because you don't even have the most fundamental idea of what the word means and just think it's some random insult and you're using it in lieu of "poopyhead".
I am the antithesis of a hypocrite. I don't care for any of this cuckold bullshit. It's stupid and offensive to me. That's why I don't watch it. That said, regardless of the race involved (and it IS an across the board thing, you've had this pointed out for you ad nauseam) I don't object to other people engaging in that fantasy, or much of any other fantasy so long as no one gets hurt because it's none of my Goddamn business. Nor is it any of yours. Nor is it the business of people who like that what you or I am into, nor should they be able to dictate to us what we should find acceptable.
If you start removing options from the table just because someone (in this case you) is offended then congratulations you've just sacked the entire porn industry. There are plenty of people who will argue up and down that the industry is, at it's core, misogynistic and objectifies women. Thus, according to these people, it's mere existence in any form is an act of bigotry. So, in order for your stance to hold water you'd have to support porn in it's entirety being deep six'ed or you're a hypocrite for suggesting that offensive material should be gone... but only that material that offends you. THAT is hypocrisy. You don't think it should be gone because it offends, you want it gone because you personally don't like it and you're basing your entire stance on self-serving bullshit because, again, you don't like it. There is nothing noble in you, nor your "crusade".
Thanks for the Neg Rep by the way. Disapproval from you? I'll wear that like a badge of honor.
SabrinaDeep
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I gotta partially stand on BGD side here, topic-wise. Partially because i think he maybe takes it too seriously, since a fantasy is just a fantasy and shouldn't be put on the same level as reality. But it's true, as i have stated numerous time in the past on this forum, that if you're white, Christian, straight and able you can't say shit about anything, while all the no-white, no Christian, no straight and different able people can scream at you and get you accountable for everything you say and do to someone from the above categories. Stupidity, humiliation, disrespect have no color, religion or ability.
Jaana, if i'm allowed: to be honest you are posting a lot in a forum which by definition is something where people come writing and READING. Now, i don't know how much you can see or not; probably not at all, in which case there must be someone at least reading for you, if not writing. You can't pretend that everybody know about your sight just because you said it here and there in some threads. I'm here since 2007 and most people don't know that i'm married...go figure. So, taking it so personal, especially reading your posts were you act and pretend (rightly) to be like anybody else, does not make justice to your intelligence, imo. You know...even if he was meaning bad to you, it's part of life to have people offending us at times and hiding behind our defects (which in different ways we all have) and how rude is to expose them it is never a point of strength. If you think he hurt you send him to fuck off, but playing the disabled hurt thing you just make his point. When people call me stupid slut i answer: i'm not stupid. I know the SLUT part is meant to be the offensive one attached to the stupid and not viceversa, but who cares? I know i'm a slut and i know i'm not stupid.
I'm going to rep BDG because i'm also tired of being always on the wrong side. I'm tired of gay prides, of black prides, of feminists prides, of muslims prides, of differently able prides, of animals prides and of all that crap that pretends to make me feel like the biggest piece of shit who ever walked on the face of earth. Hurrah to the freedom of calling an idiot IDIOT.
Jaana, if i'm allowed: to be honest you are posting a lot in a forum which by definition is something where people come writing and READING. Now, i don't know how much you can see or not; probably not at all, in which case there must be someone at least reading for you, if not writing. You can't pretend that everybody know about your sight just because you said it here and there in some threads. I'm here since 2007 and most people don't know that i'm married...go figure. So, taking it so personal, especially reading your posts were you act and pretend (rightly) to be like anybody else, does not make justice to your intelligence, imo. You know...even if he was meaning bad to you, it's part of life to have people offending us at times and hiding behind our defects (which in different ways we all have) and how rude is to expose them it is never a point of strength. If you think he hurt you send him to fuck off, but playing the disabled hurt thing you just make his point. When people call me stupid slut i answer: i'm not stupid. I know the SLUT part is meant to be the offensive one attached to the stupid and not viceversa, but who cares? I know i'm a slut and i know i'm not stupid.
I'm going to rep BDG because i'm also tired of being always on the wrong side. I'm tired of gay prides, of black prides, of feminists prides, of muslims prides, of differently able prides, of animals prides and of all that crap that pretends to make me feel like the biggest piece of shit who ever walked on the face of earth. Hurrah to the freedom of calling an idiot IDIOT.
BioDefenseGrad
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You NEG REPPED ME first at 15:24 or do you forget?
I guess you forgot when you were passing it around. Your friend got slammed for her blindness in thought. As someone with a disability, she should know better then to defend it when it's directed at other.
I'm not saying they should be pulled from the internet, I'm saying the PEOPLE who make the content need to be held accountable.
How can content producers making content that is designed explicitly to degrade White people then at the same time, expect White people to open their wallets?
They are adults and make the decision to make hateful content. So they should be prepared when people take a stand.
My problem is with those White liberals who suddenly have no taste for protest when that hate is aimed at White people. It's disgusting.
BioDefenseGrad
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They chose to make it. No one we know of put a gun to their head and said make anti-White porn. They chose to do it.
What we want them to do is think twice about it in the future, if they have any sense of right and wrong or if only the money matters to them. Will they say or do anything for a buck?
BioDefenseGrad
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Thanks, for the positive and negative. If you can talk on topic I don't mind if you are critical.
Sabrina, I don't think you've read this entire thread. Go back and read this guy's posts. There's blatant homophobia, and he dismissed out of hand the existence of cuckold porn which doesn't target white people. He may take it too seriously, but he also takes it entirely out of context. He's spouting bigotry while saying he's opposed to it. This guy isn't someone who is being unjustly maligned. This isn't a case of "white guilt".
And the guy ADMITS to slamming her blindness. This isn't something he did accidentally. This isn't a miscommunication. This isn't something misconstrued on Jaana's part. This is just the guy being an asshole because he's an asshole.
Damn right I did. Never said I didn't. That was the first time I've ever initiated a neg rep'ing. That should give you an idea of how repulsive what you posted was.
Bullshit. You're talking about boycotting performers who do it, regardless of the product they feature in, in attempt to remove it. You're trying to starve it off the Internet, and making any claims to the contrary is a blatant lie.
Again, bullshit.
Anyone who disagrees with you, who supports the right for people to make cuckold porn in general you immediately call a liberal bigot, or accuse them of being gay, or both.
SabrinaDeep
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Not saying is misconstrued on Jaana's part. I'm saying that even if he meant it, i wouldn't go on the same level and i wouldn't take as offensive the blindness part, but rather the stupid one. Just my 2 cents. But i don't wanna get into another "should pornstars be allowed to have children" drama and therefore i'm off from this topic already because it seems to me that's where it's going 
But... but... those were some of your best posts! :bawling:
BioDefenseGrad
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Sabrina, I don't think you've read this entire thread. Go back and read this guy's posts. There's blatant homophobia, and he dismissed out of hand the existence of cuckold porn which doesn't target white people. He may take it too seriously, but he also takes it entirely out of context. He's spouting bigotry while saying he's opposed to it. This guy isn't someone who is being unjustly maligned. This isn't a case of "white guilt".
I never dismissed it entirely. I said if there were multiple series of it, just like is done to Whites. You should be able to produce several links to multiple series or websites of it being done to people of various races and ethnicity.
To this day, you or anyone else who's attacked me have not provided said links. So there are several links but you guys haven't produced any?
And the guy ADMITS to slamming her blindness. This isn't something he did accidentally. This isn't a miscommunication. This isn't something misconstrued on Jaana's part. This is just the guy being an asshole because he's an asshole.
Of COURSE I DID. I found it quite appalling that someone with a disability would be so insensitive to other people when they say they wish to stop demeaning, degrading and abusive pornography. But not only did she say le vie, she pulled out the White supremacist card for me being against RACIST pornography
Then she flames me in all caps, the equivalent of shouting, over a post it was clear she didn't take the time to read. That's blind posting, quite ironic.
Damn right I did. Never said I didn't. That was the first time I've ever initiated a neg rep'ing. That should give you an idea of how repulsive what you posted was.
I guess you did forget. Why were you so angry about getting neg repped if you rememebered you NEG repped me first?? You expect I should do nothing about it? :dunno:
Bullshit. You're talking about boycotting performers who do it, regardless of the product they feature in, in attempt to remove it. You're trying to starve it off the Internet, and making any claims to the contrary is a blatant lie.
That's pretty much what I'm calling for. I draw the difference in that I'm not saying we have to pull it off the internet. They have the CHOICE to engage in racist pornography, but they should not expect White or anti-racist fans to open their wallets as if nothing has happened. Hopefully they will choose not to engage in anti-White or racist pornography, if not out of altruism than out of the decision to do what's best for them. It's not like fans haven't said they were upset by it. So in the end, if they REALLY like engaging in that pornography they will continue to do so and do without the money of fans not willing to support racist pornography.
Again, bullshit.
Anyone who disagrees with you, who supports the right for people to make cuckold porn in general you immediately call a liberal bigot, or accuse them of being gay, or both.
I actually speculated that the origin of cuckolds is internalized homophobia and that a society more accepting of male homosexuals would mean less deviant behavior in the future.
I said these men do a common coping tactic in deviant behavior where they displace their lust for men onto the supposed wife/gf and make their later homosexual acts (which is common in end stage cuckold porn that has now popped up) nonconsensual or "forced." That way these men can tell themselves that they are not actually gay or bi but they have been "forced" by a wife/gf and her lover.
That's the route of it, something that both straight, gay and bi men have recognized. These guys are often closet case homosexuals. There's nothing wrong with them being gay, but they don't want to accept that. So they continue with that self-deception.
The motivations of the "lover" is another kettle of fish.
If you see it as white people being degraded, then don't watch it. I'm sure a lot of women see sites like "Sex and Submission" as women being degraded, and they take the logical route of not watching it. Not every white person who watches cuckold porn sees it as white men being degraded.
And like I said before, there is also a site where black chicks blow a bunch of white guys in confederate flag shirts. I don't see any black posters on here complaining about that, though.
BioDefenseGrad
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Actually they have, I said then too that I didn't like it. But enough guys who watch anti-White porn were up in arms by it that the Dogfart people decided they would make a similar site for black male fans to enjoy.
That stuff is still a drop in the bucket compared to all the stuff aimed at degrading Whites.
It's hard to see how they don't see it as degrading Whites though.
About "don't watch it." We don't watch it or pay for it. Yet performers continue to make it because money trumps everything to some of them. So, if appeals to human decency about not making racist, degrading pornography fail---then we hit them in the pocket book. Just like any other protest. When a company or performer doesn't care about anything but the bottom line, then that's where you hit them.
They are adults, they choose to make that stuff. So they should have to deal with the consequences and NOT feel entitled to be rewarded by White or anti-racist consumers. You shouldn't make content seeking to degrade and defame a whole group of people and not expect them to do something about it.
BioDefenseGrad
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Perhaps it is racial discrimination, on the part of the audience who likes that stuff. Not to mention the male performers who choose to do it.
These guys are racist and that's just one more outlet for them to fulfill their black racist fantasies. It's all about making the targeted race of people look servile, weak and disgusting.
BioDefenseGrad
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I think this is a fair response. Others wouldn't be moved to take action if these people weren't making money from denigrating specific communities.
Now, some performers made a lot of money hosting parties that showed stereotyprical low-class Black behaviors. In that case, this African-American performer was making money hosting private parties where the theme was based around AA portrayed as slapstick, fun-loving buffoons. The party audience participated.
So there's a little positive (being fun-loving an not uptight) mixed in with a lot of negative in that minstrel show.
This performer has been attacked in social media and held up as an object of ridicule. He's now changed his act.
But White performers who are paid to perform in scenes where Whites are wholely negative, which can be seen by anyone who comes across them on the internet...yet they are being protected, given the benefit of the doubt etc.
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