Should Syria Be Next?

[meesterperfect]

If you are right, MP, and you very well may be, you do realize that sooner or later they're going to get to Trump, if he's not already lock stock in step with them. Think about it, you don't amass the kind of wealth Trump controls without being in with the people you're railing against.

Oh jeez thanks for not reaming me a new one.

For bodes, sorry we see it all so differently. Youre always countering my stuff with government source information.
Wish you could see its all part of a script basically. The "Official Story" which is a tool to make people think that any of it is justified.
If you just look at the actual situation in each event its pretty clear that the Official Story is mostly nonsense.
So no offense if I seem agressive to you.

Yeah X youre right.
Trump has a big flashing neon bullseye on his back.
Its all so similar to the circumstances prior to 11/22/63.
Tomorrow he's going to a big rally in FL I think, even that worries me.
People gotta understand if Trump is sincere and not a plant he is threatening to cost a lot of people an insane amount of money.
Powerful people just like JFK was doing.
There is even part of me that thinks that Reagan was a similar threat and they didn't waste time trying to get rid of him.
He survived but Bush I thinkwas basically in charge after that. Just like Cheney was higher on the totem pole then Bush II. And Obama, I dont think he had any real say about anything. He just followed orders.

Anyway I'm getting away from the point you made.
Yeah he's a threat and were seeing right now probably the biggest attempt to take down a PREZ ever short of exploding his head in public.
Right out of the gate. And its coming from all directions.
I expected resistence but this is nuts.

I'm sure Trump has played ball with some very powerful and corrupt people over the years, no doubt.
Greased many a pocket and fucked over a lot of smaller fish.
But not on this level. This is real deep state heavy duty shit he''s dealing with now.
And I doubt he's lock in step with them. He might be but if he was things would be cooling down not heating up.

If they do take him out, which I think they are trying to avoid, I doubt it will be publically as that would be too obvious and people would see it for what it is and go ape shit.
Then again hard to disprove and blame the GOV for another convenient lone nut who comes around right when they need him.

 

[bodie54]

BFD a photo of airhead Pelosi and Assad no doubt taken long before the Syrian civil war erupted.

Everything I've written about what our country did to Libya, Syria is true.
Assad didnt kill his own people. Gadaffi didnt kill is own people.

lol Of course it is.
And of course they didn't. And the cow jumped over the moon too
Good lord

You find ways to justify it, probably because you love israel so much.
You want to do the same to Iran now because thats what Netanyahoo wants.

I do support Israel for the most part, but not their settlements in the occupied territories, and not some of Netanyahu's significant policy positions, so so much for that theory...

 

[cometcomma]

we begin bombing in 5mins or in this case when trumps hair grooming is over.

yes

 

[xfire]

Oh jeez thanks for not reaming me a new one.

I apologize for having recently been discourteous to you, I did promise to stop fucking with you, but I reneged, and I also apologize for that. In fact, the very implication of "not fucking with you", implies that I was fucking with you to start with, and that was wrong. I'm going to my corner to think things over, I'll try to be a bit more diligent in my posts and replies going forward.

 

[cometcomma]

Make Syria glow in the dark.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Make Syria glow in the dark.

Just a very ignorant statement.

 

[cometcomma]

IT WAS an lol comment. Planes can land easier when war ends.

 

[meesterperfect]

I apologize for having recently been discourteous to you, I did promise to stop fucking with you, but I reneged, and I also apologize for that. In fact, the very implication of "not fucking with you", implies that I was fucking with you to start with, and that was wrong. I'm going to my corner to think things over, I'll try to be a bit more diligent in my posts and replies going forward.

No need. I havent exactly been the easiest to person to get along with at times.
So please say what you feel without exception.

And bodes, I know you aren't a big fan of Netenyahoo, I retract that.

Anyway, at the moment the Syria situation is a mess.
Syria has just warned Turkey to stay the fuck out of Syria.
Aside from all I've said the US has done to Syria right now there is a lot of crap going on over there. Multiple groups at each others throats.
Of couse if the US had just left Syria alone none of it would have been happening but.........
Hopefully Trump makes sure we stay out of there and also doesn't keep fucking with Iran.
Can't fix the economy and fight wars at the same time.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

IT WAS an lol comment. Planes can land easier when war ends.

Thank you for the clarification.
Syria is Russia's problem let Russia take one for the team.

 

[meesterperfect]

Thank you for the clarification.
Syria is Russia's problem let Russia take one for the team.

Just when I thought I was out........

I agree with your what I think is a US should not be in Syria feelings.
But the way I see it at this point is at the moment Syria is everybodys problem in the sense that it is a perfect opportunity for the US and Russia to both, together, jointly, roll in and drive the Bearded Mercenaries not only out of Syria but all the way to the Persian Gulf or the Arabian sea or wherever they wind up.
Drive them out of Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, and wherever else the are occupying.
Most would just shave their beards (literally because thats what they do when their not getting paid) and go back to wherever the came from.
There would be no great war. As soon as the US and/or Russia started killing them in numbers they would disband.
They are mercenaries. The big money someone is paying them aint no good to them if theyre dead.

If Trump is serious about "Erraticating Radical Islam" wouldn't that be a great thing?
I think that would be great for US/Russia relations and the whole world. I think Trump should have already reached out to Russia to get this started. And I bet Iran would even come join the fight, which again would be a uniting thing.
Imagine Russia and The USA fighting together to do this?
It's easy if you try.

The fact that after years and years of talk about "The War On Terror" the US has not allied with Russia or any other country to help fight Al-Qeaueaueueauda or any of the other Muslim Brotherhood armies is just one thing that pretty much confirms my strong assertion that is it the US or the Shadow GOV of the US who is supporting them.

 

[bodie54]

The fact that after years and years of talk about "The War On Terror" the US has not allied with Russia or any other country to help fight Al-Qeaueaueueauda or any of the other Muslim Brotherhood armies is just one thing that pretty much confirms my strong assertion that is it the US or the Shadow GOV of the US who is supporting them.

But Mr P, that's actually not a fact. The US has allied with a number of countries to fight Al Qaeda, etc .

And you can be sure Russia isn't going to just merrily join us in this without asking a heavy price in return. That's the kicker.

 

[meesterperfect]

I must have missed them ever actually fighting isis or any other bearded mercenaries.
In Iraq they are still there. In Libya they entered by the hundreds of thousands literally the same day the US ceased their months long carpet bombing reign of murder and terror on the Libyan civilians now Libya is basically their home turf.
And in Syria the US entered that country without permission of the sovereign government of Syria, which by definition is an invasion.
They killed no bearded mercenaries but did kill in a horrendous way by dropping depleted uraniun bombs which burn at 6,000 degress and turn everything they land on into charred ash on the Syrian army.(just how they killed scores of thousands of Libyan men women and children).
All the while saying they are there to help while telling Assad, the elected leader to leave or die.

So the US ever fighting and of these armies of maniacs is a lie. And if they did it was a show because they haven't put a dent in them. And if they really wanted to the US would and could annihilate them.
You have bought a lie. They are still in every country the US destroyed and the US has done nothing to stop them.

If the US sincerely wanted to help Russia and Syria and Iran fight against "Radical Islam" they would have done so long ago.
What would Russia want in return? Money? Weapons? They have those.
Or maybe for the US to stop sending tons of war machines up to the Russian border?


New article I read.
Pentagon Prepares Plan To Deploy Ground Troops In Syria
http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/pentagon-prepares-plan-to-deploy-ground-troops-in-syria/

If this happens and we go into Syria guns blazing against the Syrians and Assad we all might as well just give up hope because it means that Trump is just another puppet of the same zionist, neocon, war mongers and profiteers just like Bush and Obama were and Clinton would have been.
It will prove meet the new boss, same as the old boss is in effect and we've been fooled again.
Then in 4 years if we're still alive it will be Trump/Clinton again and she will win and the wars for israel will continue until somebody finally decides enoughs enough and poofs us out of existence which I think is the plan all along.

 

[bodie54]

I must have missed them ever actually fighting isis or any other bearded mercenarie.

You must have.
I didn't. Neither did their grieving families. It's an easy thing to look up the number of casualties of (for instance) British soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Or any one of several other nations that have suffered casualties, particularly in Afghanistan. Here's that overall chart again. http://icasualties.org/
See right hand column at this page for casualties by nation in Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan


If the US sincerely wanted to help Russia and Syria and Iran fight against "Radical Islam" they would have done so long ago.

Actually by all rights that sentence should be reversed and read "if Russian and Syria and Iran wanted to help the US fight against radical islam they would have done so long ago."

What would Russia want in return? Money? Weapons? They have those.

No re weapons. Money yes, in the form of the lifting of sanctions. And we're talking very big money. But also most likely the further acquisition of territory that is not theirs to possess.

 

[meesterperfect]

You must have.
I didn't. Neither did their grieving families. It's an easy thing to look up the number of casualties of (for instance) British soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Or any one of several other nations that have suffered casualties, particularly in Afghanistan. Here's that overall chart again. http://icasualties.org/
See right hand column at this page for casualties by nation in Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan


If the US sincerely wanted to help Russia and Syria and Iran fight against "Radical Islam" they would have done so long ago.

Actually by all rights that sentence should be reversed and read "if Russian and Syria and Iran wanted to help the US fight against radical islam they would have done so long ago."

What would Russia want in return? Money? Weapons? They have those.

No re weapons. Money yes, in the form of the lifting of sanctions. And we're talking very big money. But also most likely the further acquisition of territory that is not theirs to possess.

Ok. Sure most if not all those soldiers didnt die fighting against the military of the legitimate governments or their tribes that they attacked?
I don't see much effort to "Erraticate Radical Islam" other than putting Americans and other travelers through hell at the airports.
That's because they aren't.

Russia and Syria asking the US for help? They have been. "Please stop arming the "terrorists" we are fighting" is asking for help I think.
That might be a good start.
And removing sanctions? Oh god forbid. Gotta ,make those evil Russian people suffer.

As usual your view is a product of what the US GOV is telling you. Assad is killing his own people, Gadaffi is killing his own people, The Iraqis were putiing babies on the floor to die, we were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin, ect ect.
And the Great USA, leader of Freedom and Justice is just destroying one country after another because they are the good guys.

The US has been talking about fighting Al-Qaueada and ISIS for years. Rusia and Syria are actually doing it and suddenly they are our worst enemies.
Don't make a whole lotta sense to me.